EPTI hate to be pushy but this is my first time being so confident in a read and with a case to boot. Thoughts about it?
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MoosyDoosy
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I hate to be pushy but this is my first time being so confident in a read and with a case to boot. Thoughts about it? | ||
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On September 08 2015 10:15 scott31337 wrote: The case is okay - not great - Seems to be quite a bit of confirmation bias in it though. What if I said that #4 feels more like that you know rayn is town? I've been the one questioning rayn the most. But I think his willingness to dive into the thread and his aggressive manner is standard town!rayn. He also hasn't been completely unreasonable either. | ||
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On September 08 2015 10:21 Breshke wrote: I'm fine with people looking for other mafia but you should be voting GB do you think my case is good tho? | ||
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On September 08 2015 10:34 Breshke wrote: I honestly have hardly read it not because I don't care but because I'm at uni. I could like skim it and give quick but I chose not too because you probably put effort into it and i feel like that unfair on you if i do that. Sorry if it seems like im trying to "stop your momentum" or w/e but im just trying to keep the thread on what I think is the right track and thought people were unvoting GB but it was just you. cool enough. | ||
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On September 08 2015 11:02 Breshke wrote: Yo moosy I read it. Do you really think copcake "provoked" noobking. I really doubt that. I also don't understand why you have a problem with copcake making a bad town atmosphere yet when noobking was telling everyone how shit they were you were cool with that. Also look at it from her point of view. You have been on her back most of the game as town would that not frustrate you? Could this not explain some of the way she is acting? Actually she was going ham on me from the start. I merely made an observation about how rayn and her were friendly and she kept on trying to make a big deal out of it. Even after I explained it did she keep bringing it up. | ||
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On September 08 2015 11:46 CopCake wrote: - I am not bragging - I don't know how i am creating a bad atmosphere I am tired of you going for me since the beginning, even yamato said it "you have an obsession with me" Besides yesterday you , YOU were lynching Noobking instead of me. and you DO NOT WANT to lynch GB - You said you were bragging in one of your very own quotes - You are creating one by calling people trash You might be tired of it, but if you're so good at Mafia as you say then you should know yelling at people doesn't get you anywhere. Also, I was NOT in favor of a n00bKing lynch which is just outright false. I am PERFECTLY fine with GB getting lynched. I'm just more sure that you're CopCake. | ||
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On September 08 2015 16:54 boxerfred wrote: MD's case on Copcake feels like a random bunch of quotes that somehow fit the theory. I wish there was more explanation in context, more details and not just "Hypothesis - Quotes that prove it" material. I don't like the case because it doesn't show any thought process or has a conclusion (besides the obvious "COPCAKE IS SCUM") stuff. So no, I'm not willing to look into that case especially since I feel like MoosyDoosy has shown a tendency of jumping in the thread, talking about the currently up to date topic and then leaving again. This kind of drive-by posting doesn't reveal many efforts. I'm scum-leaning MoosyDoosy for now, also for his full-mouthy "I LEAD TOWN NOW". There's literally nothing that MD has done that would make me accept him as the town leader. No way. 1. It's not just hypotheses I'm providing. These are all reasons to read her as scum. If you don't think anti-town tone, lack of post content, content contradiction, and continuous attempts to mislynch town are scum then I'm starting to worry about what exactly you think makes someone Mafia. 2. It's not just the case that makes her Mafia. What is she doing right now to refute the case? Absolutely nothing. Sure she darted in for a bit, but what she said JUST contradicted what she said earlier on in the thread. She can't refute what I've stated because all of them are true and she's relying on her heroes to come in and save her from the lynch. 3. I have not just jumped in the thread temporarily. While you may be skimming through the thread, it's pretty clear you're not putting in the effort by reading filters. Because I've been constantly questioning people about past material in the thread and covering my bases. Even right now all you're doing is coming in, spouting thread sentiment and voting for GlowingBear. EVERYTHING you've been doing so far reflects rayn sentiment and nothing else. Which I guess is what you have to do in order to stay low against the town leader. | ||
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On September 08 2015 21:11 Fidei86 wrote: Moosy, I'm trying to get a handle on whether you actually believe what you're saying here. Let me get this straight - you think that it is possible TOWN Rayn is fake counter-claiming DOCTOR GlowingBear, because Rayn is so angry at GB? Let's consider that for a moment. When you get a claim/counter-claim situation as town then you absolutely have to, 100% of the time, lynch whichever of the claimers you don't believe. If they flip blue, you lynch the other claimer. You do this because there is no reason to think that the town claimer is lying. The reason for THAT is because if Rayn is VT and he's CCing GB, he will know we willl have to lynch them both. Town don't lie on these sorts of CCs because if they are wrong, it means two guarantees mislynches, and it ALSO means that town waste two days. Let's say GB flips blue. We then lynch Rayn. We have to as he is a confirmed liar. If Rayn then flips green, we're in triple lylo with no doctor. Put another way, town Rayn would be staking the entire game on his read of GB. More or less. Rayn might be emotional, but he's not a moron. I just refuse to believe that he's that idiotic and egotistical. I have been in voice-Mafia games where he has done this (I think), but those are just quick throwaway games for fun - this is a huge forum game where everyone is putting in hours and hours of time. It's very different. The only reason not to scum read Moosy is that his read of the situation is so far off the beaten path, and makes so little sense, I don't see scum pushing it. Rayn - if you are VT then you will need to personally apologies to every town member for throwing. Everyone else- the vote today is GB 100%. Please read what I said earlier above about the context of Rayn and GB's claim, if you're unsure. no i never said that. i said gb's claim makes little sense in the first place and that he was probably lying. but i do think rayn is VT and just super confident in his read enough / angry enough to counter claim to get gb lynched. | ||
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On September 08 2015 22:36 NocturneMage wrote: I don't understand where that second question comes from. It's an either/or situation: Cake is town and her push on gb was towny. Cake is mafia and had a strategy where she pushed gb for the cred. Where day 1 busses are rare, you look at someone's behavior and weigh that against (1) the timing and content of her push and (2) the behaviour of other players in the game (ie if enough of them are towny, you could poe her out) Which ultimately gauges how likely she is to be mafia. Based on my thoughts about her behaviour that is why the bus thing is still a possibility. The funny thing is that I looked at a game where rayn + CopCake were mafia. And guess what! She made shitty scum cases on rayn from D1 and throughout the whole game which the other townies cleared up, making them both look townie off of it. ...Sound like GB + CopCake? Nah, I'm probably wrong right? Continuing to read. | ||
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On September 09 2015 05:37 NocturneMage wrote: hey md, I have a question for you......I took a crazy dive into cake's filter because her gameplay is so scummy - you are okay with a gb lynch, and given claim analysis gb flips mafia, that is the world for now. what is mafia motivation for cake to make a sick bus on gb for cred? that was theory 2 and I evaluated the areas where she could be bussing, but the points (mafia motivation) don't add up. I typed out a long post. hold on. It's not even a "sick bus". Look through her filter. Literally all her posts throughout this game have been weak cases designed to scum read everyone. The only person she's basically been buddying with is rayn as he's the town leader. At this point it's not even a "sick bus." She's just scum reading everyone, posts little, tries to rile up others, and comes off looking townie because people think she's trying to do work in the thread and there's no way to associate with others because she's already scum read them (besides rayn). | ||
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On September 09 2015 05:44 NocturneMage wrote: so md, if she has a history of bussing my question to you is how early did she call out her partner? where is the game in question? looked at the database - there is no listing under copcake unless I'm being an idiot again the database has been outdated for a long time l0l. i only have one of my games listed there. ugh. you're making me go back and look for her past scum games. | ||
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I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows: 1. n00bKing is town. 2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing. 3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong 4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff 5. Me: n00bKing is town. | ||
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On September 09 2015 05:48 NocturneMage wrote: you misunderstood. I don't mean copcake bussing rayn. I mean copcake bussing gb. I know where you are getting the sentiment of copcake buddying to rayn but that's not what I'm discussing. I agree her list post is overall terrible. I agree her overall gameplay has been terrible. however I'm not debating this. that wasnt' up for debate. that's why I looked at her even closer because we're in the world where gb flips red because it's generally NOT likely scum bus d1. but I am asking you to consider the mitigating factors that don't make sense from a mafia perspective. namely what I bolded in my wall of text. yes i was talking about copcake busing gb. look at her filter. she literally scum read or null read everyone except for the town leader. how are you supposed to make an association off of that l0l. | ||
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one moment i'm still answering questions. u tunneled fool can wait. | ||
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