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On August 31 2015 06:32 Vivax wrote:No, just in time. CC acting townie as of late, Palmar acting like I don't know what and Kelsier heading for a modkill. We have to pick one. Trfel would probably be a good lynch too but CC doesn't wanna vote him, it'd need at least you, jat and moosy to lynch him.
I could lynch Hopeless still, why no mention of Hopeless?
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Omg sry, something pulled me away.
Okay so Hopeless was town. Palmar and Trfel are NOT masons. Kelsier mafia. Anything else?
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On August 31 2015 22:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2015 22:44 Palmar wrote:On August 31 2015 22:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 31 2015 22:25 Trfel wrote:On August 31 2015 22:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 31 2015 12:47 Trfel wrote:On August 31 2015 12:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Trfel you're hurting my head. Why in the world is Palmar confirmed town? Why are you so ironclad on this fact? Please, please, please ignore this. Imagine for a moment that I gave you indisputable evidence that I am in fact town, and Palmar is also town. I'm telling you that the scum team is KelsierSC, Vivax, and deconduo. For reasons previously stated, though if you would like me to clarify or further explain anything, I can do so. Do you agree, or do you disagree, and why? If I assume that you and Palmar are confirmed town then yes, I would have to say that your case against deconduo is very compelling. Why does my alignment affect how compelling the case is? (actually curious what you're thinking, not criticizing) (well okay, not criticizing yet, anyway) let me rephrase that. If I assume that you and Palmar are confirmed town then yes, I would have to say that deconduo has to be Mafia here. -squints- To be fair, I can see the crumbs that you guys were masons all along but I still find it annoying that you guys did the EoD shenanigans. It's not exactly crumbs. In the QT I wrote "I'm not gonna claim mason, I'm just gonna hard defend you all the time" Out of deconduo/Vivax/Kelsier who do you think is most likely to be Mafia?
I don't know if this is a group question, but Kelsier is the only one in that list that is up for lynch tomorrow. I think if they live the night, tomorrow is when you decide if you believe Palmar/Trfel's claim or not, if you don't you vote one of them, if you do you vote Kelsier.
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And it may be a thing where it doesn't matter and everyone afk votes for Kelsier anyway.
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The point is that Kelsier is mafia and I'm in the camp where he dies tomorrow.
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Vivax visited JAT last night, so I'm gonna need to know WHICH blue you are claiming now Vivax.
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I'm a 2-shot Tracker, on N1 I tracked Marv to decon which checked out when marv claimed and last night I tracked Vivax to JAT.
I tracked Marv because I figured on N1 when mafia had 2kp, that would be the night marv would be carrying KP if he were mafia, so I YOLO'd and checked him instead of someone I was suspicious of.
So now I'm at a crossroads. Vivax has claimed a blue role, and I have him visiting JAT and JAT not dying. So he could be a mafia role or a blue role, but he's something because he visited JAT.
I'm not sure where I stand with Kelsier. Last night I was about certain he was mafia, but today knowing what I know, I think I prefer a Palmar/Trfel lynch today based on the fact that A.) everyone seems perfectly fine with a Kelsier lynch (including mafia) and B.) 1-Shot Cop + 2-Shot Tracker + 2 masons seems super OP for town. I'm thinking the masons are fake, Vivax is some sort of protective role and we're instead dealing with 1-Shot Cop, 2-Shot Tracker, Jailer/Medic.
##Vote: Palmar
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On September 01 2015 23:21 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 22:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm a 2-shot Tracker, on N1 I tracked Marv to decon which checked out when marv claimed and last night I tracked Vivax to JAT.
I tracked Marv because I figured on N1 when mafia had 2kp, that would be the night marv would be carrying KP if he were mafia, so I YOLO'd and checked him instead of someone I was suspicious of.
So now I'm at a crossroads. Vivax has claimed a blue role, and I have him visiting JAT and JAT not dying. So he could be a mafia role or a blue role, but he's something because he visited JAT.
I'm not sure where I stand with Kelsier. Last night I was about certain he was mafia, but today knowing what I know, I think I prefer a Palmar/Trfel lynch today based on the fact that A.) everyone seems perfectly fine with a Kelsier lynch (including mafia) and B.) 1-Shot Cop + 2-Shot Tracker + 2 masons seems super OP for town. I'm thinking the masons are fake, Vivax is some sort of protective role and we're instead dealing with 1-Shot Cop, 2-Shot Tracker, Jailer/Medic.
##Vote: Palmar There is no medic. Vivax can only be a jailer. Why did you track Vivax?
Because he claimed blue so I wanted to see if he was carrying KP for his team. Evidently he was not. So he's either not mafia or a mafia role who was not carrying KP, take your pick. I prefer the former because if I were mafia and I had a role, I'd be carrying the KP to minimize exposure to the team. Maybe I'm biased because I'm a tracker so I'm considering trackers in my play, but it just seems logical that if Vivax is mafia who has claimed blue, that he'd be carrying KP - and he wasn't.
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On September 01 2015 23:27 justanothertownie wrote:VE you should really have waited for Vivax claim if you are town 
He wasn't going to claim! Look at his posts!
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On September 01 2015 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 23:29 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 01 2015 23:27 justanothertownie wrote:VE you should really have waited for Vivax claim if you are town He wasn't going to claim! Look at his posts! Then you should have forced him to.
And how am I supposed to do that without claiming JAT?
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On September 01 2015 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't know but this way we can't catch him in a lie and it sucks. I find it highly suspicious how all those claims are coming now that the game is easy to solve if the masons are real.
The masons were never real, they were never even believable. Palmar doesn't announce that he's a mason with someone on D1 the way he did on D1 with the Trfel Townread of Total Failure. Palmar fucking LYNCHES D1 claims, there's literally NO WAY as mason he as good as claims mason with Trfel on D1.
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On September 02 2015 00:31 Palmar wrote:
VE if you're town (which seems unlikely at this point) go read what Trfel posted from the QT.
Look at my super cocky attitude regarding defending Trfel throughout the game.
You KNOW this is the most Palmar thing in the world. Like I'm genuinely being an asshole with the extra information I have. Hell, I derided you so much for it when I was forcing you to re-evaluate your reads.
Also, Marv died calling me town and defending me. That should count for something.
"Plz VE, go read my painstakingly faked logs so they're good for something! I play like an asshole regardless of alignment but THIS game it makes me town! And lest we forget, I killed marv while he was reading me town!"
Plz Palmar, you act like this is my first game or something. Also marv was starting to come around on you, so nice try.
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On September 02 2015 01:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2015 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 02 2015 00:31 Palmar wrote:
VE if you're town (which seems unlikely at this point) go read what Trfel posted from the QT.
Look at my super cocky attitude regarding defending Trfel throughout the game.
You KNOW this is the most Palmar thing in the world. Like I'm genuinely being an asshole with the extra information I have. Hell, I derided you so much for it when I was forcing you to re-evaluate your reads.
Also, Marv died calling me town and defending me. That should count for something. "Plz VE, go read my painstakingly faked logs so they're good for something! I play like an asshole regardless of alignment but THIS game it makes me town! And lest we forget, I killed marv while he was reading me town!" Plz Palmar, you act like this is my first game or something. Also marv was starting to come around on you, so nice try. All marv did was saying he isn't very confident in his reads in general. There was no coming around.
At any rate, he didn't "die townreading Palmar" regardless of what Palmar would have us believe.
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On September 02 2015 01:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Why are you so sure that Vivax is town and Palmar/Trfel mafia VE? From your perspective Vivax could absolutely be mafia.
It's based on my reads, Vivax has been with me on the Trfel tip all game long. I suppose I could be mistaken and the longer we go without Vivax saying one way or the other the more I'm starting to doubt that read.
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On September 02 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
But I still think Vivax is the correct lynch here for the reasons I stated. If he is town we lynch the masons tomorrow and the day after that and definitely reach a final 3.
I think I can roll with this. Who's your best guess on their partner in the case that Vivax is town?
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On September 02 2015 01:49 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
No Palmar, this whole case is easily explained and I already did so -.- your explanation (and I mentioned this) is that he randomly lynches mason claims just because. That's retarded anyway.
It's not random it's based on his reads and IF you're town it confirms the OTHER one of you for town. How is that retarded?
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On September 02 2015 01:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2015 01:50 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 02 2015 01:49 Palmar wrote:On September 02 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
No Palmar, this whole case is easily explained and I already did so -.- your explanation (and I mentioned this) is that he randomly lynches mason claims just because. That's retarded anyway. It's not random it's based on his reads and IF you're town it confirms the OTHER one of you for town. How is that retarded? Can you find marv coming around on me? Or did you just lie about that?
It wasn't a lie, it was me misremembering. I think maybe I was thinking of you saying you had an urge to lynch marv and I flipped it around or something. At any rate what marv was reading you as is completely irrelevant because A.) stuff has happened that would affect that read and B.) you would kill him as mafia while he's townreading you because it's late game and that's what you do to marv late game when he's town and a cop.
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We're never lynching VE. Ever.
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On September 02 2015 02:04 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 22:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Vivax visited JAT last night, so I'm gonna need to know WHICH blue you are claiming now Vivax. Why would you ever say this now, and not wait for Vivax to claim his role?
Because he wasn't claiming his role have you read his posts? He literally said "I'm not claiming this cycle" and I called shenannigans.
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Like Jesus Christ if you're not reading his posts then what does it matter whether I claimed before he claimed his role or not anyway? You wouldn't even know if he claimed his role if you're not reading his fucking posts.
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