EPTOn August 28 2015 23:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
split town and win as mafia CLEARLY the answer ur looking for amirite?
split town and win as mafia CLEARLY the answer ur looking for amirite?
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Town lean: KelsierSC, MrCC Mafia lean: Moosy, Hopeless Mafia: Trfel, Palmar Everyone else is very null. Even Wave, which is really disconcerting. I feel like I'm probably wrong somewhere in my mafia reads, and if I'm wrong on more than one I'd probably put Wave as a mafia lean at this point for being so forgettable. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:13 justanothertownie wrote: I don't think it's paticularly mafia indicative VE. It would be if it was coming from an experienced/talented player. So are you taking his self-push yesterday as skill indicative? Because I'm starting to think that might have been the goal. :/ | ||
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On August 28 2015 17:09 Trfel wrote: Just some random musings. Going to be completely honest, I'm annoyed that people are scumreading me for terrible reasons and refusing to listen. You have been warned. In the end, I don't really want to lynch Hopeless1der any more. His play feels much more genuine than last game, and I don't feel like he'd be playing at all if he were mafia. I find it quite likely that he is town. I also think that justanothertownie is probably town. Later in the day, his play changed to be much more productive. I still need to reread his filter, though. I was suspicious of Vivax earlier, but his play towards End of Day is exactly what I would expect from a somewhat lazy town Vivax. Still confident in Palmar and marvellosity being town. MoosyDoosy's play at End of Day felt very off to me. I suppose it's probably from town, but I want to take another look at it. The fact that deconduo kept pushing for lynching Hopeless1der instead of boxerfred looks slightly towny to me. Regardless of Hopeless1der's alignment, mafia is happy with boxerfred being lynched. And if the lynch had switched onto Hopeless1der, and Hopeless1der did flip town, that would have made deconduo look worse (and obviously deconduo wouldn't bus his teammate there). Town lean. KelsierSC seems town here, but I am a little paranoid. I'm really wondering if rsoultin is mafia here after all? I don't have any reasons, only some really stupid tells. I'll take a close look at her filter tomorrow. I'm probably being really stupid, but I can't shake this feeling. Also still suspicious of VisceraEyes, though I seem to be the only person who is. Still waiting for him to actually address what I asked him to. Probably not going to do much more until tomorrow. And yes, I realize that I have way too many townreads. Deal with it. You mean this post where he townreads almost every player in the game except VE? This is the post you agreed with most of what he had to say? | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:31 justanothertownie wrote: You actually think Trfel could be scum with Palmar? It seems very unlikely to me that Palmar would associate this heavily with a mafia partner. Why? He's universally townread, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. I'm literally the only person saying Palmar could be mafia besides you and YOU are his main target. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:32 justanothertownie wrote: I just don't think mafia Palmar bases his whole attack on town JAT on town JATs correct scumread on Trfel. It's not like you gave him much else to work with you know. Anyway it's fine, like I said, I may be wrong somewhere, and I concede that it could very well be that only one of Trfel/Palmar are mafia. | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:36 marvellosity wrote: meh, it's just not how i read it so he's wrong, so what? and he knows he has too many townreads. i think the explanations for why he came to some of them read ok. Do you have specific reads in there (other than the one on you) where you disagree with how he arrived at a certain conclusion? Over half the reads in there don't have any thought-process leading to them. If you have specific ones that you think are good that would be the place to start, but like, Kels: no reason given - Palmar/marv: no reason given - rsoultin: no reason given - VE: no reason given | ||
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On August 28 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote: i think that's lazy. you've played zillions of games with him too, and disregarding your wealth of experience with how he plays is quite frankly ludicrous. I'm not disregarding anything, if you'll notice I pull from my experience with him to make the reads I am. I'm just not comparing this game ON THE WHOLE to any other game ON THE WHOLE because I'm god-awful at that kind of thing. | ||
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1) The way he hard aligns with you so early. Typically speaking there's at LEAST a small amount of paranoia BEFORE the flip when Palmar is town. 2) He didn't kick and scream when JAT fell off the lynch block. Granted: JAT had produced a fuck-ton of content by that point, but he still claims to be suspicious of JAT so it can't be that he was just okay with it, he just didn't fucking care. 3) The hard townread of Trfel. I STILL don't know what it's based on, and by this point it's the ONLY thing that he's suspicious of JAT for. Like dafuq? 4) Accepting me as town for being wrong and bad. That hasn't been my meta for a long time, recently I've been right more often than being wrong, so this is bad meta being used to correctly assess my alignment. TMI. | ||
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On August 29 2015 00:01 marvellosity wrote: alright. 2 & 3 is fair enough. i think you know 4 is a bit silly because he will always say exactly the same about you  But it's what I think, and you know it. | ||
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