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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:08 GMT
#2003
On August 28 2015 23:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
What's the goal Moosy? What's your endgame in trying to keep JAT and rsoultin at each others' throats?

split town and win as mafia CLEARLY the answer ur looking for amirite?

YOU'RE CERTAINLY GETTING WARMER MATE!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:09 GMT
#2005
What I'm looking for is the truth - why are you trying to keep rsoultin and JAT fighting?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:14 GMT
#2008
Town: VE, marv, JAT, rsoultin, Vivax
Town lean: KelsierSC, MrCC
Mafia lean: Moosy, Hopeless
Mafia: Trfel, Palmar

Everyone else is very null. Even Wave, which is really disconcerting. I feel like I'm probably wrong somewhere in my mafia reads, and if I'm wrong on more than one I'd probably put Wave as a mafia lean at this point for being so forgettable.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:14 GMT
#2009
On August 28 2015 23:13 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't think it's paticularly mafia indicative VE. It would be if it was coming from an experienced/talented player.

So are you taking his self-push yesterday as skill indicative? Because I'm starting to think that might have been the goal. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:22 GMT
#2011
On August 28 2015 17:09 Trfel wrote:
Just some random musings.

Going to be completely honest, I'm annoyed that people are scumreading me for terrible reasons and refusing to listen. You have been warned.

In the end, I don't really want to lynch Hopeless1der any more. His play feels much more genuine than last game, and I don't feel like he'd be playing at all if he were mafia. I find it quite likely that he is town.

I also think that justanothertownie is probably town. Later in the day, his play changed to be much more productive. I still need to reread his filter, though.

I was suspicious of Vivax earlier, but his play towards End of Day is exactly what I would expect from a somewhat lazy town Vivax.

Still confident in Palmar and marvellosity being town.

MoosyDoosy's play at End of Day felt very off to me. I suppose it's probably from town, but I want to take another look at it.

The fact that deconduo kept pushing for lynching Hopeless1der instead of boxerfred looks slightly towny to me. Regardless of Hopeless1der's alignment, mafia is happy with boxerfred being lynched. And if the lynch had switched onto Hopeless1der, and Hopeless1der did flip town, that would have made deconduo look worse (and obviously deconduo wouldn't bus his teammate there). Town lean.

KelsierSC seems town here, but I am a little paranoid.

I'm really wondering if rsoultin is mafia here after all? I don't have any reasons, only some really stupid tells. I'll take a close look at her filter tomorrow. I'm probably being really stupid, but I can't shake this feeling.

Also still suspicious of VisceraEyes, though I seem to be the only person who is. Still waiting for him to actually address what I asked him to.

Probably not going to do much more until tomorrow. And yes, I realize that I have way too many townreads. Deal with it.

You mean this post where he townreads almost every player in the game except VE? This is the post you agreed with most of what he had to say?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:25 GMT
#2012
Like I don't know what you want me to say Marv. Too many townreads, wrong about the only mafia read he has, it's a bad fucking post.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:27 GMT
#2014
Well besides coming in and acting like town Vivax at the end of the day, the whole of his filter before that point was pushing on Trfel who I believe to be strongly mafia. So from my perspective, Vivax is either HARD bussing his partner ALL GAME, or he's town. I think he's town.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:31 GMT
#2016
On August 28 2015 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Town: VE, marv, JAT, rsoultin, Vivax
Town lean: KelsierSC, MrCC
Mafia lean: Moosy, Hopeless
Mafia: Trfel, Palmar

Everyone else is very null. Even Wave, which is really disconcerting. I feel like I'm probably wrong somewhere in my mafia reads, and if I'm wrong on more than one I'd probably put Wave as a mafia lean at this point for being so forgettable.

You actually think Trfel could be scum with Palmar? It seems very unlikely to me that Palmar would associate this heavily with a mafia partner.

Why? He's universally townread, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. I'm literally the only person saying Palmar could be mafia besides you and YOU are his main target.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:32 GMT
#2017
Or at least were. Who knows where he stands now because he's playing like a piece of shit regardless of his alignment.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:34 GMT
#2019
On August 28 2015 23:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 28 2015 23:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Town: VE, marv, JAT, rsoultin, Vivax
Town lean: KelsierSC, MrCC
Mafia lean: Moosy, Hopeless
Mafia: Trfel, Palmar

Everyone else is very null. Even Wave, which is really disconcerting. I feel like I'm probably wrong somewhere in my mafia reads, and if I'm wrong on more than one I'd probably put Wave as a mafia lean at this point for being so forgettable.

You actually think Trfel could be scum with Palmar? It seems very unlikely to me that Palmar would associate this heavily with a mafia partner.

Why? He's universally townread, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. I'm literally the only person saying Palmar could be mafia besides you and YOU are his main target.

I just don't think mafia Palmar bases his whole attack on town JAT on town JATs correct scumread on Trfel.

It's not like you gave him much else to work with you know.

Anyway it's fine, like I said, I may be wrong somewhere, and I concede that it could very well be that only one of Trfel/Palmar are mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:37 GMT
#2021
Like from my perspective it's like this: I thought you were pretty townie early on yesterday. Some disagree (some strongly) but the point is that from my perspective, you hadn't done anything really scummy at all. So when Palmar sees his partner Trfel say something that could be construed as super townie, he could jump on that opportunity to "hard confirm" him as town the way he likes to do, and that in turn makes you look "super scummy" for pushing on him. It's a world that exists, and I'm not giving up on it just because you don't think it's likely...but I do concede that it's not as airtight as I'd like.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:38 GMT
#2023
YAY I got to mindmeld with marv once this game ^^
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:41 GMT
#2026
On August 28 2015 23:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I don't know what you want me to say Marv. Too many townreads, wrong about the only mafia read he has, it's a bad fucking post.

meh, it's just not how i read it

so he's wrong, so what? and he knows he has too many townreads. i think the explanations for why he came to some of them read ok.

Do you have specific reads in there (other than the one on you) where you disagree with how he arrived at a certain conclusion?

Over half the reads in there don't have any thought-process leading to them. If you have specific ones that you think are good that would be the place to start, but like, Kels: no reason given - Palmar/marv: no reason given - rsoultin: no reason given - VE: no reason given
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:48 GMT
#2033
He does it as both alignments, sometimes wrongly, but he almost ALWAYS does it, every game. Call someone hard town for something, then attack people attacking them. It's like his Power Move.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:49 GMT
#2034
The point is you should try and read him off something else, and off everything else Palmar looks like scum.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:52 GMT
#2037
Yo I don't know if it looks like his MAFIAGAME. I'm saying that here in THIS game everything I've seen from him feels like mafia. I'll leave the meta shit for you marv, that's your thing. My thing is reading thread actions in the CURRENT game. And based on that, I think Palmar is mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:54 GMT
#2039
On August 28 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 23:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo I don't know if it looks like his MAFIAGAME. I'm saying that here in THIS game everything I've seen from him feels like mafia. I'll leave the meta shit for you marv, that's your thing. My thing is reading thread actions in the CURRENT game. And based on that, I think Palmar is mafia.

i think that's lazy.

you've played zillions of games with him too, and disregarding your wealth of experience with how he plays is quite frankly ludicrous.

I'm not disregarding anything, if you'll notice I pull from my experience with him to make the reads I am. I'm just not comparing this game ON THE WHOLE to any other game ON THE WHOLE because I'm god-awful at that kind of thing.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:55 GMT
#2040
I fucking dare you to disagree with me on that marv, I've NEVER been able to correctly assess someone's alignment by comparing this game with another.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 14:59 GMT
#2047
Well frankly I'm not trying to impress you. That being said, prepare for disappointment because there ARE things he's done a zillion times as town in games I've played with him. The problem is that he's a good enough player to know that and not give a shit.

1) The way he hard aligns with you so early. Typically speaking there's at LEAST a small amount of paranoia BEFORE the flip when Palmar is town.

2) He didn't kick and scream when JAT fell off the lynch block. Granted: JAT had produced a fuck-ton of content by that point, but he still claims to be suspicious of JAT so it can't be that he was just okay with it, he just didn't fucking care.

3) The hard townread of Trfel. I STILL don't know what it's based on, and by this point it's the ONLY thing that he's suspicious of JAT for. Like dafuq?

4) Accepting me as town for being wrong and bad. That hasn't been my meta for a long time, recently I've been right more often than being wrong, so this is bad meta being used to correctly assess my alignment. TMI.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 28 2015 15:01 GMT
#2050
On August 29 2015 00:01 marvellosity wrote:
alright. 2 & 3 is fair enough.

i think you know 4 is a bit silly because he will always say exactly the same about you

But it's what I think, and you know it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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