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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:52 GMT
#681
You know, in all my time on this site I have still NEVER been in a game with scummarv.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 26 2015 16:52 GMT
#682
At any rate it doesn't change my read of you two - I'm town on marv and leaning mafia on Palmar, with a side of "I'm not gonna even try to lynch Palmar today" because impossible.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:53 GMT
#683
No wait.
Dumb.
Shadow game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 16:55 GMT
#684
On August 27 2015 01:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:46 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:04 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Catching up.
Frigging euro dominated game

##unvote
Should have just said marv/Palmar dominated game.
Which is fine I suppose since they're both extremely likely to be town at this point.


On what basis?

On the basis that they took over the thread entirely.
Unless they are BOTH scum and are playing beyond both of their usual abilities which to me frankly seems near impossible, it's extremely unlikely based on their interactions that one of them is scum and the other isn't.

What about their interactions makes it unlikely that one is scum and the other isn't? Because from the looks of it to me it could be either both town or one/one...I agree that mafia/mafia makes no sense in any world.

Because they can both read each other extremely well and due to the amount of back-and-forth they have already had, it's likely that one would have found something about the other strange already.

It's EXACTLY the amount of back and forth that I find disconcerting. Like, they have back and forth every game but it's a LOT in this game and they IMMEDIATELY townread one another (at least it looks that way to me.) In my experience that's a result of one of them being mafia and trying hard to get the other to townread them, saying all the right things, etc. Both Palmar AND Marv are capable of fooling the other, it just takes effort that generally neither of them are willing to put in. Who's to say they aren't willing to put it in this game?

I only mention it because it looks like you're building town/town marv/Palmar as the foundation of your thought process this game and I'm getting bad feels from Palmar.

red: please show where i did this

green: please provide one instance of this happening, because as far as i'm aware this is never how it works and you're making things up

It's based on your interactions, it just FEELS like you townread him marv. Hence the parenthetical.

I've BEEN mafia with you before WITH Palmar in the game, and THIS IS HOW YOU DESCRIBED IT TO ME. Maybe I'm high and am misremembering, but this is MY way to read you and Palmar and has been for a while now. If it's mistaken please correct me.

Hero Mini Mafia by HiroPro

http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/w59fV9HUwCzB

that is our mafia QT

I've not checked through it, hopefully I am proved right

I certainly left Palmar alive n1 because I thought I could handle him another day, but it wasn't because of me appealing directly to him

Wave's description is much more accurate, if we heavily interact and don't call each other mafia, that's a decent town-sign right there
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 26 2015 16:55 GMT
#685
Oh VE thinks I'm mafia.

I guess that takes him back off the do not lynch list.
Computer says mafia
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 16:56 GMT
#686
On August 27 2015 01:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
Message to a non-jatty jat:

When do you plan on showing up to this game?

-your not-so-friendly neighborhood raoul

rsoul, do you think Palmar could have read marv based on "heya" and "this is delightful"?

If you say yes, then that means Trfel's question was valid.

If you say no, then that means Trfel's question was weird and we need to take action on it.


i know that truffle's question did not raise red flags with me, which generally means that the context

(and y'all are taking this out of context lovelies)

makes the question make sense. when i review it i fully expect to find someone else scumreading marv (wave/ve?) and him saying well i want to wait and see what palmar thinks

in that context which as i said since no red flags when i read it, i completely expect to find, there is not a damn thing weird about this supposed "question" and jat pinging him out on it is puke-worthy

it's possible i misread. doubt it
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 16:56 GMT
#687
On August 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
Oh VE thinks I'm mafia.

I guess that takes him back off the do not lynch list.

apart from being petulant, this doesn't make sense

if VE is mafia and we are both town, VE knows there is 0% chance of getting a lynch on you, and even discrediting you is near-impossible with that alignment configuration
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 16:57 GMT
#688
On August 27 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
No wait.
Dumb.
Shadow game.

yes, how could you forget one of my most comprehensive mafia triumphs
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 16:58 GMT
#689
On August 27 2015 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rsoul!!
Hi!!!
Hi!!!!!!!
Let's play so I can be not mad at you anymore.
Talk to me about stuff.

Thoughts on Cheesecake?
Moosy?


dunnae about cc but i still like moosy <3
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 26 2015 16:58 GMT
#690
On August 27 2015 01:56 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
Oh VE thinks I'm mafia.

I guess that takes him back off the do not lynch list.

apart from being petulant, this doesn't make sense

if VE is mafia and we are both town, VE knows there is 0% chance of getting a lynch on you, and even discrediting you is near-impossible with that alignment configuration

sorry, to take this to its logical conclusion that i kinda left unsaid - the much higher percentage likelihood than that is VE is town and actually suspicious of Palmar
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
August 26 2015 16:58 GMT
#691
On August 27 2015 01:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't really have much to say about that specifically.
Palmar and marv have a super special bromance together that I can't explain accurately in any real detail. The way it seems to me is that Palmar tosses out reads super early just 'cause, some of which may be accurate and some of which might not be but he sticks with them and forces them if necessary, and re-evaluates in secret. In the scumgame where he caught me even though he forced his read on me all game he was actually constantly re-evaluating based on what was going on in game as was evidenced by his posting.

For a read on marv if I had to guess it's easier to assume he's town (even based on very little/nothing) and take it back later on if he just so happens to be wrong, but all of the posting they have done has in all likelihood shown that he is right.

As for how this relates to Trfel/rsoul.....dunno.

So you think Palmar could have read marv based on "heya" and "this is delightful"?

If you say yes, then that means Trfel's question was valid.

If you say no, then that means Trfel's question was weird and we need to take action on it.

To be perfectly honest, the townread on marv is in large based on his "this is delightful" post, because I was also enjoying that conversation a lot.
Computer says mafia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
August 26 2015 16:59 GMT
#692
On August 27 2015 01:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
Message to a non-jatty jat:

When do you plan on showing up to this game?

-your not-so-friendly neighborhood raoul

rsoul, do you think Palmar could have read marv based on "heya" and "this is delightful"?

If you say yes, then that means Trfel's question was valid.

If you say no, then that means Trfel's question was weird and we need to take action on it.


i know that truffle's question did not raise red flags with me, which generally means that the context

(and y'all are taking this out of context lovelies)

makes the question make sense. when i review it i fully expect to find someone else scumreading marv (wave/ve?) and him saying well i want to wait and see what palmar thinks

in that context which as i said since no red flags when i read it, i completely expect to find, there is not a damn thing weird about this supposed "question" and jat pinging him out on it is puke-worthy

it's possible i misread. doubt it

There is literally 0 reason for rfel to say that at this point. It is pure filler. You pinging me out for this is puke-worthy.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 26 2015 16:59 GMT
#693
On August 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
Oh VE thinks I'm mafia.

I guess that takes him back off the do not lynch list.


hmm I think VE is town personally

Zerg for Life
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 26 2015 16:59 GMT
#694
On August 27 2015 01:55 Palmar wrote:
Oh VE thinks I'm mafia.

I guess that takes him back off the do not lynch list.

Quit angling for mislynches and I'll quit calling you mafia. <3
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:59 GMT
#695
On August 27 2015 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
No wait.
Dumb.
Shadow game.

yes, how could you forget one of my most comprehensive mafia triumphs

Yeh that was a very good one.
One of the best games I've ever had the pleasure of playing in.

Marv do you not think that VE has similar cohones to me in that he does not fear taking you/Palmar on as scum?
I don't think Palmar's OMGUS has any particular true reason behind it but I don't think VE is ruled out.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 26 2015 17:01 GMT
#696
On August 27 2015 01:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:04 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Catching up.
Frigging euro dominated game

##unvote
Should have just said marv/Palmar dominated game.
Which is fine I suppose since they're both extremely likely to be town at this point.


On what basis?

On the basis that they took over the thread entirely.
Unless they are BOTH scum and are playing beyond both of their usual abilities which to me frankly seems near impossible, it's extremely unlikely based on their interactions that one of them is scum and the other isn't.

What about their interactions makes it unlikely that one is scum and the other isn't? Because from the looks of it to me it could be either both town or one/one...I agree that mafia/mafia makes no sense in any world.

Because they can both read each other extremely well and due to the amount of back-and-forth they have already had, it's likely that one would have found something about the other strange already.

It's EXACTLY the amount of back and forth that I find disconcerting. Like, they have back and forth every game but it's a LOT in this game and they IMMEDIATELY townread one another (at least it looks that way to me.) In my experience that's a result of one of them being mafia and trying hard to get the other to townread them, saying all the right things, etc. Both Palmar AND Marv are capable of fooling the other, it just takes effort that generally neither of them are willing to put in. Who's to say they aren't willing to put it in this game?

I only mention it because it looks like you're building town/town marv/Palmar as the foundation of your thought process this game and I'm getting bad feels from Palmar.

Marv didn't townread Palmar per se but he didn't scumread him either after all of that back and forth.
I have a pretty hard time believing Palmar is scum after getting the business in exactly this way in an earlier game. Rsoul can vouch for me. It's more likely to me that Palmar is wrong than scum, I think.



nh yes palmar is sexy ^^ and i don't think this is scum palmar

disclaimer: i have a horrid record of reading palmar

disclaimer to the disclaimer: ^ when he's trolling, specifically. i've actually been fairly okay at it when he's not even when others are incorrectly scumreading him
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
August 26 2015 17:01 GMT
#697
On August 27 2015 01:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
No wait.
Dumb.
Shadow game.

yes, how could you forget one of my most comprehensive mafia triumphs

Yeh that was a very good one.
One of the best games I've ever had the pleasure of playing in.

Marv do you not think that VE has similar cohones to me in that he does not fear taking you/Palmar on as scum?
I don't think Palmar's OMGUS has any particular true reason behind it but I don't think VE is ruled out.

Wait wait wait, have you even READ my posts? I've had nearly an IDENTICAL thought process as you have based on your posts, and you're not ruling me out? Are you fucking mafia Wave?!?!?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 26 2015 17:01 GMT
#698
On August 27 2015 01:58 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't really have much to say about that specifically.
Palmar and marv have a super special bromance together that I can't explain accurately in any real detail. The way it seems to me is that Palmar tosses out reads super early just 'cause, some of which may be accurate and some of which might not be but he sticks with them and forces them if necessary, and re-evaluates in secret. In the scumgame where he caught me even though he forced his read on me all game he was actually constantly re-evaluating based on what was going on in game as was evidenced by his posting.

For a read on marv if I had to guess it's easier to assume he's town (even based on very little/nothing) and take it back later on if he just so happens to be wrong, but all of the posting they have done has in all likelihood shown that he is right.

As for how this relates to Trfel/rsoul.....dunno.

So you think Palmar could have read marv based on "heya" and "this is delightful"?

If you say yes, then that means Trfel's question was valid.

If you say no, then that means Trfel's question was weird and we need to take action on it.

To be perfectly honest, the townread on marv is in large based on his "this is delightful" post, because I was also enjoying that conversation a lot.

Huh. Then that does make Trfel's question relevant in that context.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
August 26 2015 17:01 GMT
#699
##unvote
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 17:01 GMT
#700
On August 27 2015 01:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rsoul!!
Hi!!!
Hi!!!!!!!
Let's play so I can be not mad at you anymore.
Talk to me about stuff.

Thoughts on Cheesecake?
Moosy?


dunnae about cc but i still like moosy <3


Eugh.
I mean I guess the disconnect between older and newer players exists in this game.
You probably are also more experienced with the 'good' wave than the bad one and know less about older players (hence the me being mad at you ) so you're less likely to find moosy's early praises of me strange...? Or maybe I'm just biased.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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