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On August 26 2015 23:50 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 23:48 justanothertownie wrote:On August 26 2015 23:45 marvellosity wrote:On August 26 2015 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:On August 26 2015 23:40 marvellosity wrote:On August 26 2015 23:39 justanothertownie wrote:On August 26 2015 22:22 rsoultin wrote:
no it means the reason for your townread is bad, and if the reason for your townread is bad and there are reasons to think he's mafia you shouldn't be an rsoul and wait until the night before lylo to go oh shit i'm a numbnuts and now the guy who always wants to lynch me in lylo has to be convinced i'm just a numbnuts and not mafia and we should lynch the guy i was derping on @.@
He shouldn't townread me for that, true. But please don't try to make it look like you have any real reason to think I am mafia because you really don't. she kinda does, what she wrote is fair enough tbh. No, she kinda doesn't. I value my own opinion higher than this? What? I am literally saying that I am right and Palmar/rsoultin are wrong and I will keep saying it. about having very little of note to say. You know that this does not make me mafia if there simply hasn't been anything else of note to say. Who did have things of note to say so far besides me? Noone really. Because Palmar and rsoultin are calling me mafia for the best observation that has been made so far and that is basically everything that happened so far scumhuntingwise. this is actually a good point things have moved on a bit, you have any reads?
Let me catch up first. It's kinda annoying to have to keep ut at work.
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On August 26 2015 22:53 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 22:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 26 2015 22:45 rsoultin wrote:On August 26 2015 22:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 26 2015 22:42 KelsierSC wrote:On August 26 2015 22:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
wait Marv what is your read on JAT? Like me, you didn't think his question was dumb The question wasn't the best question ever but I don't think the case on him is that good at the moment it comes down to that q and him not being "jatty" Yeah this. I don't really see much on JAT. If he's mafia, he'll still be mafia later in the day anyway. I think we should focus on Trfel rite now. truffle's probably town with the stipulation that he didn't make me laugh :/ I'd still like an answer to why he asked for an opinion on marv when there was literally almost nothing that marv had posted. I feel like it's getting punted to the side while people are trying to kill JAT. several games (2-3 that i'm aware of?) palmar has caught scum!marv off of about that many posts and lynched him d1. jat is not unaware of this (he was in at least one of those games) so it's not a ridiculous thing for truffle to say it is however a ridiculous thing for jat to latch onto, and most especially a ridiculous thing to be the only thing jat latches onto
It is a ridiculous thing to say.
Marv made 2 (!) completely NAI posts. Why would Trfel post that he is interested in Palmars (who did not post at all until then) opinion about marv? It makes absolutely no sense. there is no reason to say that. So the logical conclusion is that he is just posting to post which is a classic mafia tell.
How is it ridiculous to latch only onto this this early in the game? The only thing YOU latched on is me latching on the Trfel thing.
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On August 26 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 23:28 KelsierSC wrote:
like here is my issue with the whole thing
"palmar caught marv in some games off like 2 posts so im waiting for palmar's thoughts on marv"
for one thing JAT might not have known this was the case, trefl didn't even say this was the reason he wanted to get palmar's thoughts and even if JAT did know this happened he might have forgotten about it.
with this in mind JAT asking trefl to explain his point isn't bad at all. this isn't really right, jat wouldn't forget and he does know from my pov, it's more that there was absolutely nothing in the posts i made (even less than what palmar catches me off)
Absolutely correct. Also Palmar was not alone in lynching marv because I was also pushing him both times. The point is that it is such a random and unintuitive thing for Trfel to say when neither marv nor Palmar are in the thread or posted anything of worth.
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On August 27 2015 00:02 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 00:01 Palmar wrote:On August 26 2015 23:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Meh I think JAT is town and Palmar can lick a [redacted] lamppost in wintertime. WHO IS MAFIA THEN EINSTEIN? I kinda like the Wave sentiment. FMP, the people hanging in the background not taking a side on the issue are the suspicious ones with regard to the whole JAT thing.
This is very possible since the push on me is likely a result of stupidity rather than malice.
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On August 27 2015 00:20 Palmar wrote:
I need more people to post so I can clear them so we can lynch mafia jat.
Palmar.
If you are town then you should realize that what you are doing does not serve a town agenda. If you believe it or not - I am town. All you are achieving with posts like this is making me annoyed and stop me from talking about actually interesting things because I need to put up with this retarded push on me. You are preventing me from playing the game when I already said that I won't have that much time for it anyways. Good job man.
If you are mafia you are playing excellently though. But it is far more likely that you are just dumb.
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Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push.
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On August 27 2015 00:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yup.
I could attempt to look more detail into how aggressively he's been posting but the Palmar pressure has sort of ruined any way to read that specifically.
Wow, I guess that means I have to be mafia then.
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On August 27 2015 01:00 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 10:48 Trfel wrote:To clarify: On August 26 2015 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town.
Marv playing like Palmar makes me vom a little in my mouth. Otherwise I like most everyone who's posted so far. On August 26 2015 09:52 Trfel wrote:On August 26 2015 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town.
Marv playing like Palmar makes me vom a little in my mouth. Otherwise I like most everyone who's posted so far. Most everyone? Who don't you like? On August 26 2015 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'll give more details as they become relevant Trfel. I just don't understand why the bolded sentence is included. Assuming that you are town, saying that you like most of the people who have posted but refusing to specify which ones doesn't accomplish anything. To me it feels like you needed to add an additional comment, but didn't want to commit to townreading everyone who posted or to any other suspicions. Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 13:21 Trfel wrote:On August 26 2015 12:01 rsoultin wrote:
truffle you aren't talking to me >> Family comes first, sorry. I'll be more active in maybe another hour and a half, if you're still awake then. Otherwise, I'm interested to see what Palmar has to say about marvellosity. What marv said until the last post: Speaking about additional comments with no basis, Trfel makes it into the candidates for the D1 lynch.
Watch out this could make you the day1 lynch.
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On August 27 2015 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push. You're sweet. I'm way better at scum than to blindly sheep. I've only ever been officially caught ONCE as scum and it was by Palmar, therefore I afford him a measure of respect on his D1 bullshit, enough to sheep him on what appears to be a fairly decent read.
Cool. So what is decent about the read?
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On August 27 2015 01:05 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:03 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 01:00 Vivax wrote:On August 26 2015 10:48 Trfel wrote:To clarify: On August 26 2015 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town.
Marv playing like Palmar makes me vom a little in my mouth. Otherwise I like most everyone who's posted so far. On August 26 2015 09:52 Trfel wrote:On August 26 2015 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town.
Marv playing like Palmar makes me vom a little in my mouth. Otherwise I like most everyone who's posted so far. Most everyone? Who don't you like? On August 26 2015 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'll give more details as they become relevant Trfel. I just don't understand why the bolded sentence is included. Assuming that you are town, saying that you like most of the people who have posted but refusing to specify which ones doesn't accomplish anything. To me it feels like you needed to add an additional comment, but didn't want to commit to townreading everyone who posted or to any other suspicions. On August 26 2015 13:21 Trfel wrote:On August 26 2015 12:01 rsoultin wrote:
truffle you aren't talking to me >> Family comes first, sorry. I'll be more active in maybe another hour and a half, if you're still awake then. Otherwise, I'm interested to see what Palmar has to say about marvellosity. What marv said until the last post: On August 26 2015 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
heya On August 26 2015 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
this is delightful. Speaking about additional comments with no basis, Trfel makes it into the candidates for the D1 lynch. Watch out this could make you the day1 lynch. Only if marv wants me to be. Otherwise you have no power here. Also why.
Because I made the exact same argument and somehow everyone is pushing me as the lynch for it.
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On August 27 2015 01:09 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:05 KelsierSC wrote:On August 27 2015 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push. You're sweet. I'm way better at scum than to blindly sheep. I've only ever been officially caught ONCE as scum and it was by Palmar, therefore I afford him a measure of respect on his D1 bullshit, enough to sheep him on what appears to be a fairly decent read. what is it that is good about it? I got some feels about it a little early on because I'm used to JAT being a fun-killer as town and wasn't getting any of that, and he was fairly forgettable early as well when he has no problem inserting himself into stuff. The fact that Palmar when ham super early makes it more difficult for ME to get a better read on him, but also the fact that Palmar is going ham on him so early is a good sign based on my recent experiences with town Palmar, so I am absolutely fine sheeping here. Certainly doesn't hurt that marv agrees and is 99.9% town.
Where does marv agree? This is the most bullshit read on me I ever saw btw.
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I do not need to defend myself any further or deflect anything. I am being attacked for an accusation against Trfel that I have explained multiple times by now (and noone even reacted to that btw.) and besides that there is nothing in the thread to even deflect from.
If you are town and seriously think I am a "fun killer" as town early in the game then you have literally not the slightest idea about my play and should check your facts.
You are casually adding fuel to this wagon on me while passing all responsibility or blame to Palmar and it is at best terrible and at worst really scummy.
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On August 27 2015 01:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 27 2015 01:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am interested in Moosy's thoughts now that I have arrived. im in turmoil rite now. tbh im torn between sheeping u and rsoul or re-evaluating things. i think im going to re-evaluate things tbh. Wave, one more question. rsoul said that Trfel asking Palmar for thoughts on marv was not strange per argument that Palmar had been able to read marv in the past like that. But marv's two posts were literally "heya" and "this is delightful". Do you think rsoul's explanation is good and that Trfel's question was valid or do you think otherwise? Why are you torn if the points on Trfel make sense to you? They are the only reason this wagon got started, then some other stuff added on top that's entirely subjective.
^^^^
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[QUOTE]On August 27 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
For a read on marv if I had to guess it's easier to assume he's town (even based on very little/nothing) and take it back later on if he just so happens to be wrong, but all of the posting they have done has in all likelihood shown that he is right.
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????????????
What is this shit?
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On August 27 2015 01:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't really have much to say about that specifically.
Palmar and marv have a super special bromance together that I can't explain accurately in any real detail. The way it seems to me is that Palmar tosses out reads super early just 'cause, some of which may be accurate and some of which might not be but he sticks with them and forces them if necessary, and re-evaluates in secret. In the scumgame where he caught me even though he forced his read on me all game he was actually constantly re-evaluating based on what was going on in game as was evidenced by his posting.
For a read on marv if I had to guess it's easier to assume he's town (even based on very little/nothing) and take it back later on if he just so happens to be wrong, but all of the posting they have done has in all likelihood shown that he is right.
As for how this relates to Trfel/rsoul.....dunno. So you think Palmar could have read marv based on "heya" and "this is delightful"? If you say yes, then that means Trfel's question was valid. If you say no, then that means Trfel's question was weird and we need to take action on it.
So what do YOU think? And why are you even debating sheeping people on me if you say "no"?
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On August 27 2015 01:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:30 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
For a read on marv if I had to guess it's easier to assume he's town (even based on very little/nothing) and take it back later on if he just so happens to be wrong, but all of the posting they have done has in all likelihood shown that he is right.
???????????? What is this shit? i understood, he meant Palmar called me town based on not much at the start, reserving the right to switch his judgement later. And Wave's own opinion is that Palmar's original opinion on me was right
Hm, maybe.
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On August 27 2015 01:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
I say no but I don't think I think Trfel's question is weird because Trfel could very well assume that Palmar could read marv based on 'heya' and 'this is delightful.'
This translates to "I think Trfel is a retard".
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On August 27 2015 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
Message to a non-jatty jat:
When do you plan on showing up to this game?
-your not-so-friendly neighborhood raoul
I already did and if you think my play isn't jatty then you have no idea what jatty is. I don't know why you would think that you can toneread me anyways. You clearly aren't able to do so if you are town.
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On August 27 2015 01:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:40 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
Message to a non-jatty jat:
When do you plan on showing up to this game?
-your not-so-friendly neighborhood raoul I already did and if you think my play isn't jatty then you have no idea what jatty is. I don't know why you would think that you can toneread me anyways. You clearly aren't able to do so if you are town. Rather than flinging shit at everyone and posting lots of question marks in response to everyone's posts why don't you post a nice list or make a case on someone. As it is now, you're not doing anything productive.
How about I will just keep doing whatever the fuck I please instead.
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On August 27 2015 01:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 01:40 justanothertownie wrote:On August 27 2015 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
Message to a non-jatty jat:
When do you plan on showing up to this game?
-your not-so-friendly neighborhood raoul I already did and if you think my play isn't jatty then you have no idea what jatty is. I don't know why you would think that you can toneread me anyways. You clearly aren't able to do so if you are town. you know that i usually townread you quite easily when you are town. i get that you have this push on you + not much time, but i still can't really see a reason to townread you right now so that IS a thing.
As far as I know you are not rsoultin. And if you aren't townreading me that's poor showing but alright. Scumreading me on tone is laughable though.
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