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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 04 2015 14:55 GMT
#3165
And before anyone comes in and says "but that's exaclty what you did day1 JAT": That's true. But I eventually produced the content.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 04 2015 14:56 GMT
#3166
On September 04 2015 23:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2015 23:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I am literally telling you that I am willing to listen to your contributions. But instead of contributing you decide to rage and whine instead.

/shrug

I've given contributions and you've dismissed them summarily. You can shrug all you want, that's a fucking fact. Get down off your high horse and get fucking real.

You said Kelsier is town because no mafia would be this obvious without directly claiming scum. I dismissed this because I think it is nonsense, yes. But that's it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 04 2015 15:01 GMT
#3168
Whatever dude. If you are town and want to try and win this later on I will listen to what you have to say.
If you quit like this don't blame me for lynching you.

afk
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 05 2015 12:56 GMT
#3175
So, I won't be here for deadline -> pub tour, but I guess the way this looks it isn't a problem. Just make sure to kill this guy. I don't expect him to pull any last ditch effort like Vivax did but if he does - ignore it.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 05 2015 14:12 GMT
#3177
On September 05 2015 23:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
For the record, I've been mafia with VE when he gets mad and votes himself instead of convincing people of his supposed towniness / arguing who else is mafia.

No problem. Unless he starts playing again he is the next lynch anyways
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 06 2015 15:12 GMT
#3206
On September 06 2015 19:20 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
VE played quite well for a stretch btw, impressive scumgame. He just got kinda screwed over by everyone randomly deciding to act like a supertownie at some point.


Except that his tracker claim murdered me

...

Yes, that was bad. But apart from that he played well.

Funny thing: I said mafia would be in the group of people defending me or ignoring the push day1. 100 % correct. And I called all of them out for it too. Only VE was so towny besides that I didn't scumread him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 06 2015 15:13 GMT
#3207
The Vivax lynch decided the game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 06 2015 18:32 GMT
#3210
So? My point is not that I got everything right which I obviously didn't. My point is that the statement was entirely correct and it was.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 06 2015 18:35 GMT
#3211
But at least I townread only one mafia all game and was the one pushing for the first mafia lynch the strongest. I am happy with this game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 07 2015 06:26 GMT
#3215
On September 07 2015 12:19 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 04:19 Palmar wrote:
On September 06 2015 19:20 Vivax wrote:
On September 06 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
VE played quite well for a stretch btw, impressive scumgame. He just got kinda screwed over by everyone randomly deciding to act like a supertownie at some point.


Except that his tracker claim murdered me

...

I think I would have gotten you lynched anyway.


The idea of Trfel being mafia was stuck in CC's head at the time, me being blue would have allowed me to push the fear that you and Trfel were mafia doing a play after KSC would have been lynched. I would further have pushed that notion by pointing out how you pushed me on that day instead of lynching the claimed scum KSC.

What lost us the game is that we couldn't just proceed to lynch KSC and go on with the rest, me having claimed blue (either PGO or veteran) and VE doing something else, cause VE claimed tracker in his attempt to lynch Palmar and save KSC, but fact of the matter is that it ended up completely messing up my own plans mentioned above. I felt backstabbed by VE there cause I didn't see it coming.

0 chance that one of the masons would have gotten lynched before LYLO as long as I was alive.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 07 2015 09:22 GMT
#3219
On September 07 2015 18:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 12:19 Vivax wrote:
On September 07 2015 04:19 Palmar wrote:
On September 06 2015 19:20 Vivax wrote:
On September 06 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
VE played quite well for a stretch btw, impressive scumgame. He just got kinda screwed over by everyone randomly deciding to act like a supertownie at some point.


Except that his tracker claim murdered me

...

I think I would have gotten you lynched anyway.


The idea of Trfel being mafia was stuck in CC's head at the time, me being blue would have allowed me to push the fear that you and Trfel were mafia doing a play after KSC would have been lynched. I would further have pushed that notion by pointing out how you pushed me on that day instead of lynching the claimed scum KSC.

What lost us the game is that we couldn't just proceed to lynch KSC and go on with the rest, me having claimed blue (either PGO or veteran) and VE doing something else, cause VE claimed tracker in his attempt to lynch Palmar and save KSC, but fact of the matter is that it ended up completely messing up my own plans mentioned above. I felt backstabbed by VE there cause I didn't see it coming.

Still.

I don't know how much you value my persuasive abilities, but I would have yelled and screamed to get you lynched (over KSC) that day.

Maybe I'd have failed, who knows. But I was coming after you.

Bro, I had to tell you that Vivax was confirmed mafia from your pov :p
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 07 2015 09:23 GMT
#3220
On September 07 2015 18:20 marvellosity wrote:
I'm so glad VE was mafia

l
a
z
y

m
o
f
o

Seriously. One post making fun of our hopeless lynch after day2. For shame...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 07 2015 11:44 GMT
#3225
Being lazy isn't that bad as long as you don't call other people scum for being lazy :p

But seriously the n1 kills were questionable. No offense to WoS/rsoul but there would have been much better kills.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 07 2015 11:48 GMT
#3226
WoS was in half of towns scumlist and rsoultin was just wrong as fuck.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 07 2015 11:57 GMT
#3228
I don't know why they medic dodged in the first place. A save wouldn't have meant more mislynches. And they had Palmar and Trfel as masons too...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 07 2015 14:03 GMT
#3231
On September 07 2015 22:15 Palmar wrote:
I thought the rsoul kill was very good. She was universally townread.

She was harddefending all 3 mafia though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 07 2015 14:05 GMT
#3233
I was also universally townread. Marv too. Anyways, was not as bad as the Wave shot I can agree with that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-07 14:07:01
September 07 2015 14:05 GMT
#3234
On September 07 2015 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
who cares

like people don't re-evaluate after n1?

edit: she definitely wasn't "hard defending" vivax either

Yes, she absolutely was. Wait let me get the quote.

On August 29 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote:
so, ye, shitty lazy rsoul reads post incoming

strong town
marv - lock town (don't care about you wafflers)

town
vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game
palmar - too similar d1 thoughts
wave - disorganized/not his scum game

town leans
ve - anger/aggression/frustration says town ve
jat - irritating but his play has the "jattyness" i didn't see earlier
ksc - scum game is worse than this
moosy - chaotic/tone says town

poe

condor - more likely scum if hopeless is town than if hopeless is scum? almost want to punt him up into town leans though
hopeless - could just be awful though
trfel - so...yeah. fuck this shit like...it feels like he's deliberately avoiding me in thread and i just came to the very uncomfortable conclusion that i'm actually more sure of at least 4 players than i am of him, which should never happen if he's town and actually playing
CC - gut scumread...there's a disconnect somewhere...i'll figure out what it is eventually

tldr:
condor could be town actually maybe
and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_-

Quite a few surprises in here. Besides the obvious:
What makes you think Wave is disorganized and why do you think he couldn't fake that as scum?
How would you characterize Vivax scumgame?
How can you say Kelsiers scumgame is worse than this when he just played a very good scumgame?


- i think he could fake it as scum but he doesn't, and it feels like he's approached this game very naturally instead of with the purpose and deliberateness i'd expect and have seen in his scum games
- vivax's scumgame is awful, boring, and not terribly aggressive (i.e. not this)
- he didn't

- I think you are overestimating WoS scumgame but fair enough.
- I would argue he has been boring and not terribly aggressive for most of this game at least.
- If you say so.


- it's a toneread so :/ it's possible but i feel good about it
- this is more than a toneread and i'd fight with people trying to lynch viva, straight up...it's partially how he does his own shit

Right before deadline.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 07 2015 15:28 GMT
#3239
On September 07 2015 23:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 23:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 07 2015 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
who cares

like people don't re-evaluate after n1?

edit: she definitely wasn't "hard defending" vivax either

Yes, she absolutely was. Wait let me get the quote.

On August 29 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote:
so, ye, shitty lazy rsoul reads post incoming

strong town
marv - lock town (don't care about you wafflers)

town
vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game
palmar - too similar d1 thoughts
wave - disorganized/not his scum game

town leans
ve - anger/aggression/frustration says town ve
jat - irritating but his play has the "jattyness" i didn't see earlier
ksc - scum game is worse than this
moosy - chaotic/tone says town

poe

condor - more likely scum if hopeless is town than if hopeless is scum? almost want to punt him up into town leans though
hopeless - could just be awful though
trfel - so...yeah. fuck this shit like...it feels like he's deliberately avoiding me in thread and i just came to the very uncomfortable conclusion that i'm actually more sure of at least 4 players than i am of him, which should never happen if he's town and actually playing
CC - gut scumread...there's a disconnect somewhere...i'll figure out what it is eventually

tldr:
condor could be town actually maybe
and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_-

Quite a few surprises in here. Besides the obvious:
What makes you think Wave is disorganized and why do you think he couldn't fake that as scum?
How would you characterize Vivax scumgame?
How can you say Kelsiers scumgame is worse than this when he just played a very good scumgame?


- i think he could fake it as scum but he doesn't, and it feels like he's approached this game very naturally instead of with the purpose and deliberateness i'd expect and have seen in his scum games
- vivax's scumgame is awful, boring, and not terribly aggressive (i.e. not this)
- he didn't

- I think you are overestimating WoS scumgame but fair enough.
- I would argue he has been boring and not terribly aggressive for most of this game at least.
- If you say so.


- it's a toneread so :/ it's possible but i feel good about it
- this is more than a toneread and i'd fight with people trying to lynch viva, straight up...it's partially how he does his own shit

Right before deadline.


eh...one of my (few) strengths is claims? not that y'all needed me at all for that lol ><

that i was wrong is clear. the assumption that in a 48 hour period anyone would just keep their reads and never change their mind, though, is short-sighted i think -shrugs-

marv and palmar were my strongest reads lol >< and palmar only because i absolutely refuse to consider until proven wrong that my town play lines up with his scum play so neatly...that would be very demoralizing

I am not saying you wouldn't have changed your mind but still - why shoot the player on the complete wrong track over those who aren't? Very strange choice to me.
:/
Anyways let's keep it at that before people start saying I am bashing your play again.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
September 07 2015 15:35 GMT
#3241
On September 08 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
well, other people seem to grasp the decision, so the fact you don't understand is your own failure, not anyone else's

Or I am just better than you people which is obviously the more likely explanation for it.
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