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On September 02 2015 04:50 deconduo wrote: So today has been interesting to say the least.
It seems impossible for Vivax to be town. He would almost have to be a jailkeeper, and JAT just seems like an unlikely target either for a RB or a protect. If he does actually flip town, then we have 2 easy lynches lined up in Trfel and Palmar. I don't see any good reason not to lynch Vivax and work from there.
##Vote: Vivax
More to follow in a bit. That's a long bit...
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On September 02 2015 18:31 Palmar wrote: For future reference.
When Vivax flips scum and confirms me town, I also think VE is 100% lock mafia. Vivax/VE/Kelsier is a possibility but 100 %? We will see. If VE is mafia with Vivax they screwed themselves over with their claims. If you assume mafia plays optimally (which we shouldn't necessarily but it is a thing to keep in mind) then VE cannot be mafia with Vivax. The fact that there is NOTHING coming from Vivax is a good sign.
And Trfel I expect you to reveal your reasons for a possible world with VE and Vivax as town with enough time left in the day. If you retract your mason claim I will lynch the shit out of you regardless of your alignment.
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It is possible. I somehow doubt you were still marvs top town in the end but fair enough.
It is wednesday so it is not unlikely that I won't be around for the flip. Maybe I will be back by then, maybe not. Lynch Vivax unless the masons retract their claim in which case lynch them.
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But it is so stupid. They both outed themselves to get lynched? Wtf were they thinking? I mean I can see them panic seing 2 masons and a nearly solved game and trying to get at least one of them lynched (and they both tried) but that's so dumb.
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I am also way less certain about tracker, cop, masons being impossible than the same + JK which should definitely be impossible. I mean we are talking about BH here who thinks 11 vs. 2 vanilla is balanced.
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Cool, then we lynch VE if you flip town.
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Why are they masons though? Doesn't 4 blues seem too much for you?
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Look Vivax, it doesn't make much sense to do what VE did as mafia. You will be lynched.
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On September 03 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2015 03:06 justanothertownie wrote: Why are they masons though? Doesn't 4 blues seem too much for you? Cause there aren't 4 mafia doofus VE, Palmar and Trfel makes 3.
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On September 03 2015 03:08 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2015 03:07 justanothertownie wrote: Look Vivax, it doesn't make much sense to do what VE did as mafia. You will be lynched. It keeps Kelsier alive, so it MAKES sense. I'm either PGO or veteran and if Kelsier is the roleblocker they can kill me at night. If they wanted to keep ksc alive he would probably just have played the game.
But maybe they want to keep you alive because youvisited me and therefore are a role?
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Yes, there is. Deconduo in TL noir. And that's irrelevant anyways.
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On September 03 2015 03:18 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2015 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On September 03 2015 03:08 Vivax wrote:On September 03 2015 03:07 justanothertownie wrote: Look Vivax, it doesn't make much sense to do what VE did as mafia. You will be lynched. It keeps Kelsier alive, so it MAKES sense. I'm either PGO or veteran and if Kelsier is the roleblocker they can kill me at night. If they wanted to keep ksc alive he would probably just have played the game. But maybe they want to keep you alive because youvisited me and therefore are a role? Ok then compare how VE and Kelsier have been playing and I have been playing during the last day before Kelsier claimed scum. That alone points to me being town and them not being. As far as I am concerned you 3 could be the scumteam.
If you flip town we lynch VE and kelsier after you if you want.
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On September 03 2015 03:19 Vivax wrote: Tomorrow it's lylo if you lynch me and I am the most logical kill for mafia if you kill Kelsier, and I actually manage to stay alive if he's the roleblocker. It's NOT the most mechanical play to lynch me. Yes, it is. And mafia will bever ever kill you in a million years. You will always be a question mark and you need to die now.
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On September 03 2015 03:28 deconduo wrote: Hmm unless kelsier is mafia vig. That seems unlikely though. Then he would play the fucking game, don't you think?
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On September 03 2015 03:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2015 03:27 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Vivax if you are town you have nobody to blame but yourself. I specifically ASKED you to fully claim earlier in the day, but instead you chose the option of keeping it a secret for no reason. This gives me little cause to believe your blue claim, and you will die for it. Should you flip town, VE is confirmed mafia. Then, Kelsier dies. Then it's still final 3. I have a very good reason to keep my role a secret. It leaves mafia in the dark whether I'm just a PGO or a veteran who took bribes. It actually doesn't matter at all since they will never shoot you.
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On September 03 2015 03:36 MoosyDoosy wrote: JAT want to just lynch Kels today? Lynching into either camp is great but I think it's better to nab someone who's basically claimed Mafia. No. Vivax hasn't tried to solve the game all day and now he is just trying to survive and fearmongering.
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On September 03 2015 07:35 deconduo wrote:Random thoughts. Vivax post mortem:Tried to push the lynch away from JAT onto trfel Went after WoS for changing from a townread on CC to a scumread Tried to push the lynch off the inactives (BF and hopeless) onto trfel. Did not mention VE at all until today. In general pushed trfel, palmar, CC, kelsier. Overall reflects reasonably well on CC, Vivax seemed happy enough to have him lynched. Slight FOS on JAT for Vivax trying to lead the initial wagon away from him. Kelsier:No reason not to lynch him tomorrow, has all but claimed mafia at this point. VE:Almost certainly the last scum. Cop + Tracker + 2 masons just seems very townsided. Also this: Show nested quote +On September 01 2015 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Because he claimed blue so I wanted to see if he was carrying KP for his team. Vivax only claimed blue after the day post. VE could not have known Vivax was a blue when he decided to track him. Moosy:His play has been erratic, but his one post at the start of the game made me peg him as town. Show nested quote +On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote: whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game. I also had the same thing go through my head when I got my role PM. Seems unlikely that he could come up with this reaction as mafia. JAT/CC:In the unlikely event it does come down to lynching between these two, I'd lean towards JAT being scum over CC. Mainly due to Vivax's play as mentioned above. Without me this mafia lynch would never have happened you clown.
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On September 03 2015 08:13 Trfel wrote: Can we lynch justanothertownie first? Just for fun? Maybe I should lynch you now just to be sure.
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On September 03 2015 07:05 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote: town vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game KelsierSC is mafia. If Kelsier is also mafia I should just stop giving credit to her tonereads (I never townread Vivax or Kelsier this game). Wrong on Vivax, Kelsier, Trfel and myself in the beginning.
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On September 04 2015 05:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I pretty much refuse to believe that KSC AS MAFIA comes in and last minute votes like that. It's not like he's expressly going to be killed right? He'll get warned for inactivity like ^that^. So why come in and "claim mafia" or whatever if he's mafia?
#prologics #lynchPalmar #townwins Yeah, no. ^^
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