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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 09:48 GMT
#2863
Get out you lazy mofo.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 09:54 GMT
#2867
On September 01 2015 18:53 Palmar wrote:
I think the mafia team (and 1 is probably wrong)

is:

Vivax
KSC
VE

This is based on multiple things and I don't think I'm going to write too much about it.

Yes, you will. You said you would give solving this game a try and now you will follow through with this. If you and Trfel are town then we still have a good shot at this if you try.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 09:56 GMT
#2868
On September 01 2015 18:50 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 12:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
and not to mention that mafia had 2kp on n1, which is something not usually had in normal 13 player setups

Wasn't this a 14 player setup?

CC was confused.
This is basically a 13 player setup because the additional townie is balanced by the additional nightkill night1.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 11:23 GMT
#2875
On September 01 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:
can someone confirm/deny they understand what I'm saying about vivax?

It's incompatible that he believes the mason claimed could have been resolved (without flipping) and that he has doubts that it is true.

I took his post as "we could have lynched you and resolved the masons thing this way".
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 11:36 GMT
#2876
But I don't know why he is so pissed about it if he is town. If Kelsier and the "masons" are mafia then mafia lost the game already unless town derps in LYLO.
If the masons are town then it is way better to not have lynched them. Either way we made the correct play by not lynching Palmar and removing an inactive question mark in hopeless instead.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 12:21 GMT
#2878
I am going to roll with the masons and the greencheck today. This means the lynchpool is 4 people with up to 3 mafia in there:

Vivax
Kelsier
CC
VE

It should be possible to hit here and if we don't then the masons need to be looked at again. I think I also do not prefer lynching CC today. Vivax depending on what's up with the claim and his fight with Palmar/how today plays out.

VE and KSC are poe and while VE has fallen off hard he is still townier than KSC so I am happy with this lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 12:24 GMT
#2879
Today Palmar and Trfel need to find the mafia in there and I will sheep. They have at least a 50:50 chance of hitting randomly in the group of 4 (that's if deconduo was framed/is gf - if he is town then it is 75 %). If they do not manage to do this we have a problem and they suck.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 12:31 GMT
#2880
Goddamn it, I forgot Moosy. The odds are a little worse than I thought but the procedure is the same. The masons will be not be touched as long as they lynch mafia.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 12:46 GMT
#2882
On September 01 2015 21:40 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 21:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Today Palmar and Trfel need to find the mafia in there and I will sheep. They have at least a 50:50 chance of hitting randomly in the group of 4 (that's if deconduo was framed/is gf - if he is town then it is 75 %). If they do not manage to do this we have a problem and they suck.

Hey, you suck as well bro

Sure, but I know I am not mafia and you theoretically can be. If we win the game depends on if you manage to prove yourself if you are town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 13:56 GMT
#2886
On September 01 2015 22:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Vivax visited JAT last night, so I'm gonna need to know WHICH blue you are claiming now Vivax.

O.o
How does this make any sense? Unless Vivax is rb/rolecop I guess. Weird. Too many blues I guess.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 13:56 GMT
#2887
There aren't many possibilities here but I assume this confirms me as town either way.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 14:21 GMT
#2891
On September 01 2015 22:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm a 2-shot Tracker, on N1 I tracked Marv to decon which checked out when marv claimed and last night I tracked Vivax to JAT.

I tracked Marv because I figured on N1 when mafia had 2kp, that would be the night marv would be carrying KP if he were mafia, so I YOLO'd and checked him instead of someone I was suspicious of.

So now I'm at a crossroads. Vivax has claimed a blue role, and I have him visiting JAT and JAT not dying. So he could be a mafia role or a blue role, but he's something because he visited JAT.

I'm not sure where I stand with Kelsier. Last night I was about certain he was mafia, but today knowing what I know, I think I prefer a Palmar/Trfel lynch today based on the fact that A.) everyone seems perfectly fine with a Kelsier lynch (including mafia) and B.) 1-Shot Cop + 2-Shot Tracker + 2 masons seems super OP for town. I'm thinking the masons are fake, Vivax is some sort of protective role and we're instead dealing with 1-Shot Cop, 2-Shot Tracker, Jailer/Medic.

##Vote: Palmar

There is no medic. Vivax can only be a jailer. Why did you track Vivax?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 14:22 GMT
#2892
And I seriously wonder why a JK would be on me last night. Seems silly.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 14:27 GMT
#2893
VE you should really have waited for Vivax claim if you are town
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 14:30 GMT
#2897
On September 01 2015 23:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 23:21 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 01 2015 22:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm a 2-shot Tracker, on N1 I tracked Marv to decon which checked out when marv claimed and last night I tracked Vivax to JAT.

I tracked Marv because I figured on N1 when mafia had 2kp, that would be the night marv would be carrying KP if he were mafia, so I YOLO'd and checked him instead of someone I was suspicious of.

So now I'm at a crossroads. Vivax has claimed a blue role, and I have him visiting JAT and JAT not dying. So he could be a mafia role or a blue role, but he's something because he visited JAT.

I'm not sure where I stand with Kelsier. Last night I was about certain he was mafia, but today knowing what I know, I think I prefer a Palmar/Trfel lynch today based on the fact that A.) everyone seems perfectly fine with a Kelsier lynch (including mafia) and B.) 1-Shot Cop + 2-Shot Tracker + 2 masons seems super OP for town. I'm thinking the masons are fake, Vivax is some sort of protective role and we're instead dealing with 1-Shot Cop, 2-Shot Tracker, Jailer/Medic.

##Vote: Palmar

There is no medic. Vivax can only be a jailer. Why did you track Vivax?

Because he claimed blue so I wanted to see if he was carrying KP for his team. Evidently he was not. So he's either not mafia or a mafia role who was not carrying KP, take your pick. I prefer the former because if I were mafia and I had a role, I'd be carrying the KP to minimize exposure to the team. Maybe I'm biased because I'm a tracker so I'm considering trackers in my play, but it just seems logical that if Vivax is mafia who has claimed blue, that he'd be carrying KP - and he wasn't.

That does not make sense to me. If Vivax is claiming blue then why would he carry KP? If he is tracked to 2 targets he is confirmed mafia.

Either way I am not lynching into the masons today. No chance.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 14:30 GMT
#2898
On September 01 2015 23:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 23:27 justanothertownie wrote:
VE you should really have waited for Vivax claim if you are town

He wasn't going to claim! Look at his posts!

Then you should have forced him to.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 14:34 GMT
#2900
I don't know but this way we can't catch him in a lie and it sucks. I find it highly suspicious how all those claims are coming now that the game is easy to solve if the masons are real.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 14:38 GMT
#2903
Well, if Vivax confirms that he visited me then VE can only be mafia if Vivax is too. That's nice I guess.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 14:39 GMT
#2904
On September 01 2015 23:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't know but this way we can't catch him in a lie and it sucks. I find it highly suspicious how all those claims are coming now that the game is easy to solve if the masons are real.

The masons were never real, they were never even believable. Palmar doesn't announce that he's a mason with someone on D1 the way he did on D1 with the Trfel Townread of Total Failure. Palmar fucking LYNCHES D1 claims, there's literally NO WAY as mason he as good as claims mason with Trfel on D1.

He did not claim and the whole play doesn't make much sense as mafia either. I am not lynching them today unless you give me something way more convincing than this. To me it looks like we are lynching the scummiest guy outside the blues and see who mafia nightkills.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16341 Posts
September 01 2015 14:54 GMT
#2906
Hm, probably it's smarter to lynch into one world today and the other tomorrow if we fail because if we miss today on some other dude we cannot be wrong anymore. This would mean lynching Vivax for me I guess. Will have to think about this.
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