TL Mafia LXXII: Gaiden 2 - Page 149

On September 02 2015 02:31 Trfel wrote:
I'm more confident in KelsierSC flipping mafia, actually.... I can see the possibility that Vivax and VisceraEyes are both town (very unlikely, but I can see it). Not explaining why at this time.

On September 02 2015 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't think I will allow a lynch on anyone but Vivax barring a towny miracle from his side. If he is mafia we are in a great spot because I will be confirmed town and the masons most likely (and even if they aren't they need to survive at least 2 nights). So mafia either has to show face by killing them (probably after me) or kill unconfirmed people solving the game for the masons.

If Vivax is town we lynch the masons back to back and get to a final 3.


Lynching Vivax is the mechanically correct play here.

On September 02 2015 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:

You will have to explain this rather soon. Not that I think that this will ever change my mind. You can lynch Kelsier once Vivax flips scum.

On September 02 2015 02:38 Trfel wrote:
First, why does Vivax flipping mafia make you confirmed town? (not criticizing, I just don't know what you're getting at?)

Also, I guess that makes sense, mostly, anyway.

On September 02 2015 02:39 Trfel wrote:

And if Mr. Cheesecake is mafia, I'm fine to lose. That's just far too unlikely.

On September 02 2015 04:50 deconduo wrote:
So today has been interesting to say the least.

It seems impossible for Vivax to be town. He would almost have to be a jailkeeper, and JAT just seems like an unlikely target either for a RB or a protect. If he does actually flip town, then we have 2 easy lynches lined up in Trfel and Palmar. I don't see any good reason not to lynch Vivax and work from there.

##Vote: Vivax

More to follow in a bit.

On September 02 2015 02:12 justanothertownie wrote:

Yes, it is nice that you just repeated what I said. I don't see your problem. That's not a solved game though. If you are town Vivax is almost certainly mafia but we will still have to find the 2 between Moosy, KSC, VE and deconduo. Which like you said means we need to find 1 townie in there.

On September 02 2015 18:31 Palmar wrote:
For future reference.

When Vivax flips scum and confirms me town, I also think VE is 100% lock mafia.

On September 02 2015 18:44 justanothertownie wrote:

Vivax/VE/Kelsier is a possibility but 100 %? We will see. If VE is mafia with Vivax they screwed themselves over with their claims. If you assume mafia plays optimally (which we shouldn't necessarily but it is a thing to keep in mind) then VE cannot be mafia with Vivax.
The fact that there is NOTHING coming from Vivax is a good sign.

And Trfel I expect you to reveal your reasons for a possible world with VE and Vivax as town with enough time left in the day. If you retract your mason claim I will lynch the shit out of you regardless of your alignment.

On September 02 2015 23:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Vivax

Mechanically best play. If town, the game automatically goes down to final three.

If Vivax comes back and does some weird shit in the last hour or two do NOT take votes off him. The only thing we should pay attention to is if VE was lying or not about him visiting JAT N2. I only care about his words on this if he flips town.