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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 01 2015 16:19 GMT
#2921
On September 02 2015 00:42 Palmar wrote:
I'm trying to think what this means.

This basically means that VE cannot be scum and Vivax town. Because Vivax would immediately call him out on it. The only possible options here are:

VE Scum, Vivax Scum
VE Town, Vivax Town
VE Town, Vivax Scum


It's not like I didn't tell you already.... and no moosy, vivax flipping mafia does not confirm ve as mafia but at least we would have lynched scum
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 01 2015 16:34 GMT
#2922
On September 02 2015 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
Think I want to lynch moosy

Is this some sort of elaborate scumclaim?
On September 02 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
In any case, I think we lynch Vivax today.

Unless you believe in a world with 5 blue roles he should be confirmed mafia to you.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 01 2015 16:36 GMT
#2923
On September 02 2015 00:31 Palmar wrote:
VE if you're town (which seems unlikely at this point) go read what Trfel posted from the QT.

Look at my super cocky attitude regarding defending Trfel throughout the game.

You KNOW this is the most Palmar thing in the world. Like I'm genuinely being an asshole with the extra information I have. Hell, I derided you so much for it when I was forcing you to re-evaluate your reads.

Also, Marv died calling me town and defending me. That should count for something.

"Plz VE, go read my painstakingly faked logs so they're good for something! I play like an asshole regardless of alignment but THIS game it makes me town! And lest we forget, I killed marv while he was reading me town!"

Plz Palmar, you act like this is my first game or something. Also marv was starting to come around on you, so nice try.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 01 2015 16:37 GMT
#2924
On September 02 2015 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 00:31 Palmar wrote:
VE if you're town (which seems unlikely at this point) go read what Trfel posted from the QT.

Look at my super cocky attitude regarding defending Trfel throughout the game.

You KNOW this is the most Palmar thing in the world. Like I'm genuinely being an asshole with the extra information I have. Hell, I derided you so much for it when I was forcing you to re-evaluate your reads.

Also, Marv died calling me town and defending me. That should count for something.

"Plz VE, go read my painstakingly faked logs so they're good for something! I play like an asshole regardless of alignment but THIS game it makes me town! And lest we forget, I killed marv while he was reading me town!"

Plz Palmar, you act like this is my first game or something. Also marv was starting to come around on you, so nice try.

All marv did was saying he isn't very confident in his reads in general. There was no coming around.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 01 2015 16:38 GMT
#2925
Why are you so sure that Vivax is town and Palmar/Trfel mafia VE? From your perspective Vivax could absolutely be mafia.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 01 2015 16:38 GMT
#2926
On September 02 2015 01:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 02 2015 00:31 Palmar wrote:
VE if you're town (which seems unlikely at this point) go read what Trfel posted from the QT.

Look at my super cocky attitude regarding defending Trfel throughout the game.

You KNOW this is the most Palmar thing in the world. Like I'm genuinely being an asshole with the extra information I have. Hell, I derided you so much for it when I was forcing you to re-evaluate your reads.

Also, Marv died calling me town and defending me. That should count for something.

"Plz VE, go read my painstakingly faked logs so they're good for something! I play like an asshole regardless of alignment but THIS game it makes me town! And lest we forget, I killed marv while he was reading me town!"

Plz Palmar, you act like this is my first game or something. Also marv was starting to come around on you, so nice try.

All marv did was saying he isn't very confident in his reads in general. There was no coming around.

At any rate, he didn't "die townreading Palmar" regardless of what Palmar would have us believe.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 01 2015 16:39 GMT
#2927
On September 02 2015 01:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Why are you so sure that Vivax is town and Palmar/Trfel mafia VE? From your perspective Vivax could absolutely be mafia.

It's based on my reads, Vivax has been with me on the Trfel tip all game long. I suppose I could be mistaken and the longer we go without Vivax saying one way or the other the more I'm starting to doubt that read.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 01 2015 16:40 GMT
#2928
On September 02 2015 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 00:31 Palmar wrote:
VE if you're town (which seems unlikely at this point) go read what Trfel posted from the QT.

Look at my super cocky attitude regarding defending Trfel throughout the game.

You KNOW this is the most Palmar thing in the world. Like I'm genuinely being an asshole with the extra information I have. Hell, I derided you so much for it when I was forcing you to re-evaluate your reads.

Also, Marv died calling me town and defending me. That should count for something.

"Plz VE, go read my painstakingly faked logs so they're good for something! I play like an asshole regardless of alignment but THIS game it makes me town! And lest we forget, I killed marv while he was reading me town!"

Plz Palmar, you act like this is my first game or something. Also marv was starting to come around on you, so nice try.

Literally marv's last post about me before dying:

On August 29 2015 21:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 20:28 marvellosity wrote:
marvellosity
rsoultin

Palmar
Kelsier
Wave

Moosy
VE

Hopeless/BF/Vivax/deconduo

CC/jat

maybe something like this?

Previous list

actually missed Trfel off it last time, no-one seemed to notice

marvellosity

Palmar (i just think he's town tbh)
deconduo (roll with the check)

jat/moosy/ve/kelsier - I just don't know how to order these. I guess I might just have to, for the sake of ease, plump for jat being just town and not worry about it at all. But probably in one of the other 3 there is a mafia

vivax
trfel
hopeless
CC

almost annoying that rsoultin retracted her townread on trfel, was hoping that slot was gonna be a gimme

probably between the last 2 i guess. personally i wouldn't mind taking a punt and lynching CC, feels a little more ambitious. While i'd feel shitty if he were town and just genuinely playing a more straightforward game than of old, i just can't shake my feeling on him


I am his top town, like the only guy in the same group as me is his goddamn greencheck.

So no, he was not coming around on me.
Computer says mafia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 01 2015 16:41 GMT
#2929
I would like to hear Vivax explanation for JKing me last night because I do not really understand that. I however do understand the motivation of a rb or even better a rolecop to visit me because I am probably high on mafias "to kill" list.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 01 2015 16:42 GMT
#2930
On September 02 2015 01:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
Think I want to lynch moosy

Is this some sort of elaborate scumclaim?
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
In any case, I think we lynch Vivax today.

Unless you believe in a world with 5 blue roles he should be confirmed mafia to you.

Yes.

I kinda didn't realize (ie put together the pieces) until you just mentioned this, but yes, he is confirmed mafia.

This now makes me feel like a boss for that Vivax case earlier.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 01 2015 16:43 GMT
#2931
On September 02 2015 01:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Why are you so sure that Vivax is town and Palmar/Trfel mafia VE? From your perspective Vivax could absolutely be mafia.

Scumbros b4 hoes
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 01 2015 16:44 GMT
#2932
Here I'm going to post my case a few times because it makes Vivax mafia.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.


On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day and now instead we're stuck with Trfel and Palmar and Trfel keeps trying to push a mislynch on me and noone still is sure whether their claim is true.


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).

Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 09:41 Vivax wrote:
This game is really starting to get me mad cause we could have resolved this mason bullshit on last day


There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

Computer says mafia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 01 2015 16:45 GMT
#2933
No Palmar, this whole case is easily explained and I already did so -.-
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 01 2015 16:47 GMT
#2934
But I still think Vivax is the correct lynch here for the reasons I stated. If he is town we lynch the masons tomorrow and the day after that and definitely reach a final 3.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 01 2015 16:48 GMT
#2935
On September 02 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
But I still think Vivax is the correct lynch here for the reasons I stated. If he is town we lynch the masons tomorrow and the day after that and definitely reach a final 3.

I think I can roll with this. Who's your best guess on their partner in the case that Vivax is town?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 01 2015 16:49 GMT
#2936
On September 02 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
No Palmar, this whole case is easily explained and I already did so -.-

your explanation (and I mentioned this) is that he randomly lynches mason claims just because.

That's retarded anyway.
Computer says mafia
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 01 2015 16:50 GMT
#2937
On September 02 2015 01:49 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
No Palmar, this whole case is easily explained and I already did so -.-

your explanation (and I mentioned this) is that he randomly lynches mason claims just because.

That's retarded anyway.

It's not random it's based on his reads and IF you're town it confirms the OTHER one of you for town. How is that retarded?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16344 Posts
September 01 2015 16:50 GMT
#2938
On September 02 2015 01:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
But I still think Vivax is the correct lynch here for the reasons I stated. If he is town we lynch the masons tomorrow and the day after that and definitely reach a final 3.

I think I can roll with this. Who's your best guess on their partner in the case that Vivax is town?

I would have to think about this but I really don't want to without seeing the flip.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 01 2015 16:53 GMT
#2939
also here is a thing:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24788685

read the replies. In hindsight it's a hilarious passage. Let me paint a picture.

4 English gentlemen sit in a burning house and sip their tea.

"aye chaps the house is on fire, someone ought to do something about that"
"absolutely my good sir"
"we must act at once!"
"hear hear"

And then they continue sipping tea.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 01 2015 16:53 GMT
#2940
On September 02 2015 01:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 01:49 Palmar wrote:
On September 02 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
No Palmar, this whole case is easily explained and I already did so -.-

your explanation (and I mentioned this) is that he randomly lynches mason claims just because.

That's retarded anyway.

It's not random it's based on his reads and IF you're town it confirms the OTHER one of you for town. How is that retarded?

Can you find marv coming around on me? Or did you just lie about that?
Computer says mafia
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