TL Mafia LXXII: Gaiden 2 - Page 147

On September 02 2015 00:42 Palmar wrote:
I'm trying to think what this means.

This basically means that VE cannot be scum and Vivax town. Because Vivax would immediately call him out on it. The only possible options here are:

VE Scum, Vivax Scum
VE Town, Vivax Town
VE Town, Vivax Scum

On September 02 2015 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
Think I want to lynch moosy

On September 02 2015 00:43 Palmar wrote:
In any case, I think we lynch Vivax today.

On September 02 2015 00:31 Palmar wrote:
VE if you're town (which seems unlikely at this point) go read what Trfel posted from the QT.

Look at my super cocky attitude regarding defending Trfel throughout the game.

You KNOW this is the most Palmar thing in the world. Like I'm genuinely being an asshole with the extra information I have. Hell, I derided you so much for it when I was forcing you to re-evaluate your reads.

Also, Marv died calling me town and defending me. That should count for something.

On September 02 2015 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:

"Plz VE, go read my painstakingly faked logs so they're good for something! I play like an asshole regardless of alignment but THIS game it makes me town! And lest we forget, I killed marv while he was reading me town!"

Plz Palmar, you act like this is my first game or something. Also marv was starting to come around on you, so nice try.

On September 02 2015 01:37 justanothertownie wrote:

All marv did was saying he isn't very confident in his reads in general. There was no coming around.

On September 02 2015 01:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Why are you so sure that Vivax is town and Palmar/Trfel mafia VE? From your perspective Vivax could absolutely be mafia.

On September 02 2015 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:

"Plz VE, go read my painstakingly faked logs so they're good for something! I play like an asshole regardless of alignment but THIS game it makes me town! And lest we forget, I killed marv while he was reading me town!"

Plz Palmar, you act like this is my first game or something. Also marv was starting to come around on you, so nice try.

On August 29 2015 21:26 marvellosity wrote:

Previous list

actually missed Trfel off it last time, no-one seemed to notice

marvellosity

Palmar (i just think he's town tbh)
deconduo (roll with the check)

jat/moosy/ve/kelsier - I just don't know how to order these. I guess I might just have to, for the sake of ease, plump for jat being just town and not worry about it at all. But probably in one of the other 3 there is a mafia

vivax
trfel
hopeless
CC

almost annoying that rsoultin retracted her townread on trfel, was hoping that slot was gonna be a gimme

probably between the last 2 i guess. personally i wouldn't mind taking a punt and lynching CC, feels a little more ambitious. While i'd feel shitty if he were town and just genuinely playing a more straightforward game than of old, i just can't shake my feeling on him

On September 02 2015 01:34 justanothertownie wrote:

Is this some sort of elaborate scumclaim?

Unless you believe in a world with 5 blue roles he should be confirmed mafia to you.

On September 02 2015 01:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Why are you so sure that Vivax is town and Palmar/Trfel mafia VE? From your perspective Vivax could absolutely be mafia.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 01 2015 19:04 Palmar wrote:


I'm going to explain why this post makes no sense now. (And in the end it makes Vivax mafia).



There is a logical error here by Vivax.

The truth value of the claim between Trfel and I does not change depending on when or how we claim it. It's either true, or it's false. There's only two options here for Vivax.

So how could the mason situation possibly have been resolved yesterday? Is he implying that if we claimed when someone (maybe himself I think?) demanded it, then we would have been confirmed? Because that is a super strange way of thinking about this.

Is he maybe implying that he would have accepted the claim then proceeded to lynch one of us to confirm it? Again, that would have been both stupid and unwarranted.

I'm going to paraphrase Vivax's post to get the message even clearer, there are two important statements in here:

1) We could have resolved the mason claim yesterday.
2) No one is sure whether the mason claim is true.

I listed (above) the only two ways I believe these sentence can be true together. Either if Vivax believes that:

a) Palmar claims when he demands it = MASONS CONFIRMED
b) Trfel claims when Palmar is about to be lynched = MASONS SCUMMY

This makes no sense because a) is just retarded if he has ANY reason to suspect us. If the ONLY reason Vivax believes we're scummy is the timing of the claim, then he's not considering eveyrthing that had happened in the game up until then.

I hope this makes sense, but I'm actually really sure about this. The post is illogical and clearly shows Vivax is saying something that is out of touch with reality.

I'll sheep people on KSC because I think he's mafia, but I think Vivax is the prime lynch today.

On September 02 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote:
But I still think Vivax is the correct lynch here for the reasons I stated. If he is town we lynch the masons tomorrow and the day after that and definitely reach a final 3.

On September 02 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
No Palmar, this whole case is easily explained and I already did so -.-

On September 02 2015 01:49 Palmar wrote:

your explanation (and I mentioned this) is that he randomly lynches mason claims just because.

That's retarded anyway.

On September 02 2015 01:48 VisceraEyes wrote:

I think I can roll with this. Who's your best guess on their partner in the case that Vivax is town?

On September 02 2015 01:50 VisceraEyes wrote:

It's not random it's based on his reads and IF you're town it confirms the OTHER one of you for town. How is that retarded?