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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 06 2015 12:07 GMT
#7
/in

<3 Kita....yeh don't get me started on the website >_<
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 06 2015 12:26 GMT
#8
Onegu, you are going to hate me for this, but a few questions....

1 deadline time would be....
2 KP factional or deliverable
3 is the resolution period silent
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-09 01:06:09
August 09 2015 01:04 GMT
#24
Why are you calling Fidei F-word dude? He's not particularly one to swear a whole lot (at least in mafia) >_<

<3 James, welcome back to the fray.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 10 2015 15:57 GMT
#74
10/10 Marv.

And THANK GOD filters have returned!
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 10 2015 18:09 GMT
#76
On August 11 2015 00:49 disformation wrote:
Will there be an obs QT for this? If so: /obs
Will follow this regardless, because this looks like it will turn out hilarious.


If only you had more time, I would like to play with you for once <3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 10 2015 19:08 GMT
#78
On August 11 2015 03:39 disformation wrote:
Yeah, I am going to miss some pretty awesome games.
But it would be very unwise to join a game right now... or for the next 8 weeks for that matter. So we are going to need some patience. =/


Nah, I understand. We've spoken, and I've been there. I know you'll pull through, this is just the final stretch for you \o/
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 11 2015 21:06 GMT
#81
Wait Tubesock signed up? Holy shit, it's been ages. Great to have you back!
And Shining looking forward to playing with you again.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 12 2015 18:11 GMT
#89
#yolo prediction:

Watch me get modkilled this game (as either alignment) because I wind up with a Robik or a Koshi as my role roflmao....
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 13 2015 12:32 GMT
#95
On August 13 2015 17:41 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm going to stay in this game, even though it's bigger than I'd like, and will rely upon rolling masons with HTS or some shit to keep me sane through D3.


100%

We are gluttons for punishment I suppose. And me twice over, especially after Gaiden.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 14 2015 04:24 GMT
#105
On August 14 2015 07:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
If I'm not a role in this game I'm going to be very upset.


I'm sure you will be one. Hopefully I'll get someone fun. Even if I don't know them I'll still look them up.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2015 04:29 GMT
#121
ROFLMAO.

Onegu, you are my hero!!!! <3

##vote NocturneMage

Never will I ever return to the gaming dredges known as LoL. Never!!!!
Although the fact you've named yourself after one of them, honestly I should just policy lynch you for that!
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-17 12:24:39
August 17 2015 12:20 GMT
#124
*dances*

It's good to be (almost) back. \o/

*looks at playerlist*

Don't think I've played a game with Beneather, Tolkien or matter of fact....Rels. Well this should be a good one <3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2015 13:28 GMT
#126
Actually I had a question, it just occurred to me.

Do personality games have third parties? (or did they? on mobile, so searching is a pain...)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2015 15:30 GMT
#129
On August 18 2015 00:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
Im just hoping people actually know how to play this setup, as its not really explained in the OP. Should be fun to see people like Chezinu attempt to play as somebody else


Oh wait, you actually have to roleplay the person you have? (Honestly this is my first one, so I have no idea.)

If that's the case, this game will be even more fun regardless of alignment. I thought the personality was just reflected in the abilities/night actions.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2015 17:16 GMT
#140
I don't think there will be too many lurker personalities since that would take away from the fun if you think about it....

Watch me get someone like Chez, Slam, Bats, or oh lord.....kushm4sta.
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-17 18:55:15
August 17 2015 18:53 GMT
#170
On August 18 2015 03:29 ruXxar wrote:
Mm.

I'm gonna play some dota tonight maybe.
You can add me on steam if you want.
I'm not very high skilled though, haven't played in 2 years.

Search for ruxxar.
Im the guy with the duke nukem avatar.

I play east and eu.


Sent you a PM with a few links. Plenty of both USE and EU players from here - I also play those same servers, so if you play unranked, the TL dota players don't give a shit about MMR, and even in ranked most people check at the door anyhow if they are really that worried, but no big deal either way.

What are your favourite heroes?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2015 19:26 GMT
#177
On August 18 2015 04:04 ruXxar wrote:
Mm.

Qop, puck, mirana, storm, anti Mage, weaver, luna, shadow fiend, void, gyro copter, naix

Those are the ones I remember being fun.
I'm sure I forgot some :p.

I don't mind playing ranked or unranked as long as there's no leavers.

I just want to try and enjoy the few games I get to play


Looks like we have opposite styles. I hate playing mid, and I get incredibly bored carrying. As in having to afk farm through early/mid game.

If I have to carry I prefer Sven/Luna/AM/WR/PL, since they are relatively straightforward....

Otherwise I very much prefer offlane (Bristle/CW/Timber/Earthshaker/Balanar/Brew) or support/utility (mirana/venge/ww/wd/lion are my favourites) but I can play almost any support fairly well. \o/
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2015 19:39 GMT
#179
He said Monday or Tuesday before? So tonight or tomorrow (or Wednesday morning for us Euros?)

Also potential pre-game - The game would be starting at midnight for me, so I may or may not be around until the next work day. Maybe.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 17 2015 23:00 GMT
#191
On August 18 2015 07:39 Breshke wrote:
Ruxxars filter already too long


I would have a laugh if ruXxar had an artificial post count restriction because he was unlucky to get a low volume poster as his role.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 18 2015 20:36 GMT
#211
Thanks for hosting and putting this together you two <3
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 03:33 GMT
#419
On August 19 2015 07:07 ruXxar wrote:
Hi.


On August 19 2015 07:09 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 07:08 Damdred wrote:
There once was a man named Damdred, he moved outside town one day and never turned back.

Monsters everywhere red blue and black. The hangman noose he feared the most all,he wanted was his friends but who would,be his friend? Would it be you or maybe you?
Would geript be,his friend?


LOL


On August 19 2015 07:12 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
Clearly what needs to happen this game is that we need to follow the most surefire way to lynch mafia and win games, and that is to follow the RNG lynch.

Here's how it works:

1) you will all follow me because i am better than you.

2) i will choose who we lynch every phase via RNG, then we will lynch him without question. the RNG will be determined by this post (the one you're reading right now). each post is assigned a unique id on team liquid which cannot be manipulated because of the rate of posts on TL; this makes it the perfect candidate for determining people via RNG. then from that post id i will use the following formula to determine whom is the candidate for lynch:

(sum of each individual digit in the post id [ex: 1111 = 4]) / 21 [number of players alive in game] * coefficient of the thread's stupidity

this formula will provide a number from 1 to 21, we will lynch the player it determines without hesitation or questioning. no possible explanation or reasoning could convince me that RNG lynching is in any way sub-optimal play. please bow before the RNG and watch it carry us to victory.


I no believe this good idea.
what if you roll me o_O


Scum.

ruXxar is totes scum.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 03:34 GMT
#420
I mean what is that shit. Even LS says/does more than that shit as town.

##vote ruXxar
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 03:35 GMT
#421
ritoky is probs not scum.

FF and geript probs town.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 03:35 GMT
#422
On August 19 2015 08:33 Fidei86 wrote:
Ritoky, I can't get a read on you and usually we soul read each other. I think that basically means you're confirmed mafia, because if I can't read you then it means you're mafia, and usually we can tell each other's read a scarily uncanny amount of the time. Also, pushing scum doesn't make me mafia, it makes me town. Come on people.

[serious]This game started while I was out with friends, and am currently quite toasty. Will read tomorrow and revert.[/serious]


On August 19 2015 08:35 Fidei86 wrote:
I have no idea who you're doing Ritoky, but I wish I did. If I did, then I would probably be able to know if you were mafia or not, because that would feed into my Ritoky reading computer and would tell me for sure if you were mafia or not. As it is, I have several strong mafia and several strong town reads, despite there having been very little that actually happened this game, and that should be enough for you all to town read me. If you don't town read me, that means you're bad town players, and you should know better.


Scum.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 03:38 GMT
#423
On August 19 2015 10:36 Lord Tolkien wrote:
##Vote VayneAuthority

Somehow, I find it difficult to believe he has time for games.


also hi


What makes him better than Fidei or ruXxar? Did you even read the fucking thread?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 03:45 GMT
#431
On August 19 2015 12:41 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 12:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On August 19 2015 12:12 Breshke wrote:
I don't think ritoky actually RNG'd fidel


He probably did.


Show nested quote +
On August 19 2015 07:08 ritoky wrote:
Clearly what needs to happen this game is that we need to follow the most surefire way to lynch mafia and win games, and that is to follow the RNG lynch.

Here's how it works:

1) you will all follow me because i am better than you.

2) i will choose who we lynch every phase via RNG, then we will lynch him without question. the RNG will be determined by this post (the one you're reading right now). each post is assigned a unique id on team liquid which cannot be manipulated because of the rate of posts on TL; this makes it the perfect candidate for determining people via RNG. then from that post id i will use the following formula to determine whom is the candidate for lynch:

(sum of each individual digit in the post id [ex: 1111 = 4]) / 21 [number of players alive in game] * coefficient of the thread's stupidity

this formula will provide a number from 1 to 21, we will lynch the player it determines without hesitation or questioning. no possible explanation or reasoning could convince me that RNG lynching is in any way sub-optimal play. please bow before the RNG and watch it carry us to victory.


I don't think so given this explanation

I at first thought this was really scummy because if he was town why the fuck does he make this bullshit crap reason up to explain his "RNG" and not just be like yeah i used random.org

But it makes sense in a world where he is trying to be BH and trying to be idk the word long winded? and he couldn't remember the way/couldnt be bothered doing it the way BH does it.

So he is either a fucking shitter or scum

Not to say his following read on fidel is bad but I don't wanna talk about that until fidel has been around some more


You don't know Blazinghand well enough. He swears against random.org.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 03:50 GMT
#433
Tictock probs geript, could be scum.

Talks about ruxxar's points on meta, but doesn't discuss the rest of ruxxar's posting, which others had found scummy.
Post to VA doesn't indicate thoughts on his opening.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 14:39 GMT
#484
What the fuck ruXxar.

Really.

ruXxar describe in detail your meta read.
Include the game(s) you reference.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 14:40 GMT
#485
Judy is probs a town lean.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 14:42 GMT
#487
On August 19 2015 13:20 The Shining wrote:
Holy 227 posts Batman! I only came in to laugh at my role PM because I got exactly who I expected to get. Shyt, I'm already playing to my personality bwaahhaahaa

I gotta read. I just wanted to say hi. time to carry town


On August 19 2015 13:34 The Shining wrote:
Actually yeah no 200+ posts is way too much, I'm not reading all that. someone fill me in? who is scum?


Shining probs scum.

Regardless what personality he is.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 14:44 GMT
#488
Rels town lean.

Other than ruXxar, what about Fidei, Tubesock, ritoky?
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Half the Sky
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Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 14:53 GMT
#490
On August 19 2015 22:34 JudgeJudy wrote:
If anything, the biggest reason that I am worried ritoky could be mafia at the moment is the fact that he isn't commenting on much else this game aside from the rng push. It's fine to play in character, but using the character to not have to given any other opinions for the rest of the cycle is scummy.


I get this.

But BH did this d1/d2 in Titanic 7 and he was town. Even after he was mod-confirmed.

ritoky could hide behind character as either alignment tbh. (I can also think of OGI reasons why he'd do this as town, also I had not forgotten his play in Gaiden...)

This behaviour doesn't make him exclusively mafia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 14:59 GMT
#492
Fidei, reads when you can.

Preferably sober.

(Also Fidei I will stick to heavy role mode because this is fun...but my reads should be clear enough even in character speak. I wont refuse to make an argument in my own words though if it does help others. And I know that if I need to step out of character if it's the difference in getting Mafia lynched, then of course.

If it wasn't obvious already the person I got has a very different playmate than me, but I'll still give my reads.)
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Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 15:01 GMT
#493
EBWOP: fuck autocorrect. That should be playstyle not playmate.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 19 2015 15:04 GMT
#494
Fuck man, you people should be voting ruXxar.

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 04:49 GMT
#712
Here's why I didn't like ruxxar. Even ignoring who he was trying to imitate, his posts (at least the opening ones I quoted) were saying a lot about nothing. There was one post I remember he kept saying meta over again....

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=18#345

And I specifically questioned that post because LS either on his own or either when asked further to elaborate (and this I did) on meta reads, usually fleshes it out. Here ruXxar spammed whatever and didn't answer my question.

Now if you (geript) want to lynch a higher percentage player, I did review a couple of the people that were sheeping me.

First Lord Tolkien.

I have zero clue how Lord Tolkien plays, he says jack all about ruXxar and then said he'd sheep me, so I don't know if ruXxar should be town, he's falling into the "sheeping for bad reasons" category (particularly since he says he likes shitposting - how does my shitposting in of itself make me town, that train of thought is confusing from him) and on a separate note I did not like his opening post voting VA.

Also I don't understand (unless I misunderstand his post) why he likes me and ruxxar but he'd sheep me on voting ruxxar.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491840-the-new-personality-mafia?page=18#345

On August 20 2015 05:41 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 04:59 ritoky wrote:
On August 20 2015 04:57 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On August 20 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
On August 20 2015 04:41 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I am not inclined to believe a META read at this juncture of the game.

I mostly find that individual read to be non-alignment indicative for either, and mostly a trend; outside of Chez opposing a standard BH RNG lynch, there's nothing that stands out without relying on copious amounts of meta of him, which I don't have. As for geript...he's continuing to post some of the strangest speculation ever.

Like.
On August 19 2015 08:10 geript wrote:
Maybe I wrong on wave and Breshke is rayn. Idk. Either way there's like an 80% chance that Blazinghand is a mafia pm. So we should lynch him.

He's trying to not only to speculatively figure out personality roles based on meta AND THEN lynch based off META from there.

uuuuuuuuhhhhh


Mostly inclined to NOLYNCH him D1 based solely on activity (would still zero in on Vayne for not responding to my incredibly airtight case, but I have accepted a challonge). But have mostly discounted everything he said.


Who are some people you have said things that you have not discounted, and what were those things? (outside of VA obv)

Wait what. Can you rephrase that.


You said geript has said a bunch of unmemorable shit, who has said memorable shit and what is it? Preferably alignment indicative memorable shit.

lets see. Besides that geript mostly makes me think he's town (probably) because despite posting questionable speculative shit, i greatly enjoy the shitposting...mostly you, HtS, and Fidel. Oh and ruXxar, but that's mostly because he challenged me and i must accept. Judge Judy mostly amuses me but doesn't ping on my radar because #smurfbois and obvious D1 shenanies.

In order.

You: BH RNG lynch parody amuses me greatly; also you're asking questions and trying to talk to people. Ruling as town/DO NOT D1 LYNCHERINO

HtS: For obvious reasons. I will probably sheep her today.

Fidel: i eagerly await his srs face.


I also have out of game meta shit that makes me think wave's probably town..


I also don't know where he gets strange speculation from geript's posting in one of his opening posts. From Gaiden I know geript has some methodology on reading Damdred, so that's not strange to me. And as for Chez I can't read him no matter what, last game I had with him I was mafia he was town and his posting still made my head spin >_< Meh.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 04:49 GMT
#713
And Rels, when I first scumread ruXxar, I thought he was town initially based on the mindmeld effect. I can definitely see the argument for him being scum, at least based on meta, he's way more forward, the post quality and content is higher, granted his style - if he's in another character - reminds me of SOMEONE but I can't remember who that someone is. Rels did give me reads on ritoky, and Fidei but that followup post was pretty sparse in content. However, and this is a BIG however, I don't believe Rels and Fidei have played together - Rels point on Fidei's long post being scummy (not his list post, but the one he posted before that makes sense for a player who has never played with Fidei and appears to be using his opening posts for part of that basis.

To me that makes sense based on my play with Fidei in NSM12, and with the list post provided I am pretty sure Fidei is town. Rels COULD be scum but I want to see more from him before I lynch him over ruXxar or even Lord for that instance.

Yamato's scum meta is doing jack all, so I understand and would be fine with a vote on him.

Beneather is pure policy for me at this point.

If I had to switch my vote now I'd switch it to Lord Tolkien, but let me look through a few more filters before I have to head to work, 6:50am here in Munich so I have some time...
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Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 04:57 GMT
#716
Damdred is probably worth a DT check (null in my book atm). He's in heavy roleplay mode, and if he is who I think he is (Chez? Kurumi?), his posting is going to make my head spin all game, Chez's posting is confusing to begin with.

Tubesock for me falls in the not memorable category but here's what bothers me most about his filter:

On August 19 2015 14:32 Tubesock wrote:
Chez, Breshke townpile.

Ritoky and Damdred probs town. I can't blame them for being bad roleplayers. The BH's RNG is easy enough to research that I think mafia would go the extra distance to copy it and avoid scrutiny. If anything he's null.

I didn't like Tictock's entrance or posts but it's cause he reminds me of Trfel.

Shining you going to lay a trap or what?

*postgame cred hilarity - Chez and Fecalfeast are actually partners and scumming Damdred for Chezinu Rule continuity. Trolly troll trolls from trollerville.


On August 19 2015 14:36 Tubesock wrote:
You still scum Damdred?

What do you think of Tictock?


How Tube goes from town to scum on Damdred I'm just quite unclear. That is in the span of four minutes - 0732 and 0736 CEST respectively. But that is pretty scummy.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 05:16 GMT
#720
Read through WoS' filter. Pretty sure he's town.

And I have to go to work. I'll look through more stuff during lunchtime. I'd say at this point top three lynches for me at this point are ruXxar, Lord, Tubesock.

I'd be fine to compromise on Yamato, and as stated, Beneather is pure policy.
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August 20 2015 05:27 GMT
#723
WoS

On August 20 2015 13:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Yamato's scum meta is doing jack all, so I understand and would be fine with a vote on him.


I know Yamato's play. I have never played with the latter so I can't make the same comparison on him.
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August 20 2015 14:45 GMT
#832
Some downtime at work. Reading through more filters.

Shining, I have a question for you. Let's say Tubesock gets modkilled. You understandably flipped your read on geript. Knowing what I know about basic setup, my guess is there are 4-5 scum on the scumteam, so who else do you think is/may be mafia?

In your filter Tube would be the only one you have on the table. What about Lord and ruXxar?
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August 20 2015 14:46 GMT
#833
EBWOP - What do you think about Lord and ruxxar - or any of the others being discussed (Fidei in particular is another a few want to lynch).
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August 20 2015 14:53 GMT
#835
On August 19 2015 14:32 Tubesock wrote:
Chez, Breshke townpile.

Ritoky and Damdred probs town. I can't blame them for being bad roleplayers. The BH's RNG is easy enough to research that I think mafia would go the extra distance to copy it and avoid scrutiny. If anything he's null.

I didn't like Tictock's entrance or posts but it's cause he reminds me of Trfel.

Shining you going to lay a trap or what?

*postgame cred hilarity - Chez and Fecalfeast are actually partners and scumming Damdred for Chezinu Rule continuity. Trolly troll trolls from trollerville.


On August 20 2015 16:39 Tubesock wrote:
I meant your thoughts on Damdred THIS game.

I don't particularly care if he roleplays or not. I think of this game like a big chance for everyone to smurf. In the beginning of the game Damdred was posting his rp and it sparked conversation. It got Chezinu salty, Fecalfeast, and geript as well. Stepping back I got some reads watching them go. So, to me Damdred was useful. Now, like everyone else I wish he would answer TickTock questions and post more since his phone internet is fixed (*5 hours??)

So, did YOU Fidei gain anything from him?


Alright, so Tube, you told me that your "you scum Damdred" was in response to Fecalfeast. Fine.

You explained why you thought Damdred was useful but where are you distinguishing he's town? Is there a quote? A reaction? A response?

There are several players that are saying (besides myself) that a) he could be roleplaying as either alignment, geript himself has said he can't get a read (or positive town/not town read either way), so taking that assumption and even if he's getting reactions, how do you know he's not doing it as scum?

Am I making sense here?
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August 20 2015 15:25 GMT
#836
ruXxar, you dropped your geript push for OWS. Do you still think geript is mafia? If so, why?
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August 20 2015 15:28 GMT
#837
Damdred, do you have any actual reads?

(Besides geript, I assume from your writing, you are townreading geript.)

Should I also assume you are scumreading WoS?

On August 19 2015 07:31 Damdred wrote:
Wave is scary, his,face reminds me of what I saw when I looked under my bed. What friend will protect me? Who will be my friend?


If so, why?
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August 20 2015 15:51 GMT
#842
On August 21 2015 00:45 yamato77 wrote:
So this is a fun game


Do you have anything to share? Any reads?
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August 20 2015 16:00 GMT
#844
On August 21 2015 00:43 Fidei86 wrote:
HTS I posted a case on VA and nobody has commented on it. What do you think?


Alright, there is actually a reason for this, a lot is with your inexperience.

On August 20 2015 20:51 Fidei86 wrote:
I think there is a reasonable scum case to be made on VayneAuthority.

His filter is currently less than a page long, and consists almost entirely of one-line posts that appear to be attempts to roleplay someone. No idea who though. It could be a comically poor rsoult (just for use of the kiss at the end?), I guess, but whatever. If it was just weak roleplay then I would have to stop, as I've already said that I'm staying null on people who give nothing away via roleplay (I'm mostly thinking of Damdred, and possibly KSC, although I think this is just how he actually plays) at least for a little while longer. But it isn't.

He has roleplaying posts:

"Hello dearies, I am here to solve the game x" (#401)
"I am your only hope, sweetie. I will vote whoever I damn please when I want to because you are all bad." (#404)
"A good strategy, except we won't mislynch because I am the best player of all time. Not to worry QT." (#499)

But, crucially, he also has some posts that at least purport to be more serious comment on the game. However, they all end up nowhere. He prods HTS for trying to get people onto the Ruxx wagon (#495), says he doesn't know what to make of my big WoT (#497), says that all JJ has done is to "post asinine Wots" (#498) - which, by the way, I don't agree with because at that point JJ had already started making more substantive posts (see, for example, #482), and asks what Lord Tolkien had said about him (#571). The sum of his posts has been to try and soft scum myself, HTS and JJ, but without committing to an actual read, or even really giving serious thoughts on any of us at all.

The sum of all of this is that VA appears to be trying to do as little as possible, whilst also trying to cover that with some half-assed roleplay (ie "of course I've been useless, I'm emulating X who is useless"). But that doesn't work when you slip and actually make posts that look much more like they're coming straight from VA, unfiltered by roleplay.

The only thing that gives me pause is his last post, which says "I have no thoughts on this game right now bye." (#650). I wouldn't have expected mafia to make such a scummy post to sit in amongst such a small filter. But I think the answer is that it's more weak roleplay attempt.


VA as town, plays like this. All the time. The person he is, is marvellosity, a player you have had practically zero exposure to I believe.

Even as recently as a few months ago, I tried to read VA on a tryhard = scum meta but it was in another game that JAT and marv (who are two very reliable town players) themselves looked at his meta as "town = gives few fucks if any, and no agenda" and "scum = gives more fucks and has an agenda usually"

VA is always going to have a short filter, and most of his work when I've played with him is meta-based - he reads filters and reads past games - he does work but you won't see it in his filter. You think you're anti-spam - you've made that point before, he's basically you x10 in that respect.

Right now, he's nullish. I've seen some of the poking, prodding, I think the follow-through from him is key, he has said in other games where if he has nothing to contribute, he won't contribute instead of faking it, the latter of which is scum agenda. And that's where that post #650 you cite might make him town. I am interested to see if he comments on any of the recent points on ruXxar, you or Tubesock (the current top wagons) but where he tends to post more is based on night actions and off evidence where a mafia has already flipped.

Your case on him is towny from the sense you don't know him at all, nor the player he's emulating. I doubt it's accurate but you are certainly not scum for it.
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August 20 2015 16:01 GMT
#846
OWS, right now I'm at ruXxar/LT/Tubesock/yamato.
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August 20 2015 16:05 GMT
#848
I typically try to find the scum individually D1, get a flip or info from a VCA and then work from there. I don't think in teams D1 unless there's some strong correlation right now between people that I'm not seeing.
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August 20 2015 16:06 GMT
#849
I should have said that top scum reads are those four as of now, not necessarily that they were a team I was unclear there.
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August 20 2015 16:07 GMT
#850
Leaving the office now, but I'll be back after dinner for sure.

EoD being at midnight, I should be around, but I also haven't been feeling well physically or mentally for reasons unrelated to this game. Hopefully better after I return home tomorrow. >_<
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August 20 2015 17:21 GMT
#872
Yamato, why do you think geript is mafia? What specifically makes you think that (besides OMGUS)?
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August 20 2015 17:21 GMT
#873
On August 21 2015 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred can you do something super towny for me?


I understand his last post to be reads albeit in character speak. Do you think his last post was scummy?
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August 20 2015 17:26 GMT
#875
On August 21 2015 02:02 Damdred wrote:
Greetings to all and may your soul be merry oj this joyous day.

The bank has opened its doors so you may have a look at the books. Because the bank has kept a list and it is now on public display.

Damdreds great friends ows and geript have received a total of 10 cheznoes this erases geripts loan payment and has kept him out of debt! Aren't friends great both of these guys are receiving alignment presents hopefully my umbrella is big enough to protect all three.

HTS and Shining have both received 5 cheznoes they are able to multiply there earnings soon. But no presents tonight I'm afraid.

Sadly there are some people who haven't invested in the bank nor want anything to do with them.

Ruxxar is just so mean and not fun what use would he have for a bank in his dastardly plans.

Chez the most fun has sank into the heart of despair and darkness and eyes are made of fire

FF is just so sad and lonely maybe the damdred rule misfired? Doubt seeps in what is a damdred to do he might investbine day further notes must be taken.

For now that's all you get the bank will open again soon be patient and say those deposits


At OWS - I don't see how this post (outside character speak) is scummy - maybe he could elaborate on Chez/Fecalfeast - although if I'm reading it right, FF scumread him earlier. I read FF's filter and as mafia FF does way more shitposting than I am seeing here. I would not categorise FF's posting as shit up the thread unless Damdred you are scumreading him for other reasons. (Damdred or Chezinu rule?)

(I have had it explained to me before and I keep forgetting but could someone remind me what the Chezinu rule actually is? If it was posted before and I missed it, a page number will do.)
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August 20 2015 17:32 GMT
#878
On August 21 2015 02:26 geript wrote:
Basically, we should be lynching one of VA, Yamato, Kelsier or Chezinu. All of them know about the game. All of them have posted. None of them care to do anything or in any way help lynch actual scum. Like these votes for ruxxar who has the longest fucking filter are pretty fucking egregious when we have dickheals like these 4 who choose not to play. Lynch them. Shoot them. Tell them to go fuck themselves.


Yamato, I agree. I don't understand why he's scumreading you anyways.

Kelsier, he's calling the ruXxar votes dumb (I know you and Fidei explained) but he's not as far as I can tell providing alternatives, so I can agree with that.

VA, based off what I know on meta, where are you hinting at for scum agenda? He doesn't really do much as town especially d1. This push I understand less.

Chezinu in general is in the DT check category for me. I've only played one game with him and I never really "read" him (I was mafia and he was town) so from what I read of your last read on him it seems like meta, and I don't really want to meta him off one game, I think for me blue roles should resolve him.

ruXxar, I think his pushes on you are bad, it seems like he's trying to see whatever sticks, I want to see more from him to be quite honest since enough time has elapsed, don't care if he's in character or not but I want him to be cleaer in his direction like he was in NSM12 and he was town.

ruXxar has had long filters as scum, he can and is capable of shitposting. I disagree with you that long filter makes him town.
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August 20 2015 17:33 GMT
#879
Kels you are here. What are your top scumreads?
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#881
On August 21 2015 02:31 Fidei86 wrote:
As I understand it, someone acts super troll-y for d1, and the first people who don't know that the person trolling is trolling to call the 'troll' scum are mafia.

It's stupid and I've never seen it work.


That is stupid if that's what it is. I personally can't tell whether people are sarcastic on forums in general without the use of emoticons or whatever. *shrug*
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August 20 2015 17:36 GMT
#882
On August 21 2015 02:34 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 02:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Kels you are here. What are your top scumreads?


dont have any


Seriously?

We're 44 pages into the game and you are telling me you don't have opinions on Fidei or Tubesock at least those two being the other two competing wagons?

You have/had an opinion on ruXxar and he's the leading wagon - you said previously you wanted to sheep town reads, so where are your strong town reads right now even?

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August 20 2015 17:39 GMT
#884
Another point I want to bring up I believe geript and WoS in their filters brought up competing points on Lord Tolkien at some point.

WoS townread him for meta, wasn't really specific if I recall right. geript scumread him for being below expectations (paraphrasing, correct if wrong) - personally without playing with him I didn't like certain points. geript, what changed about him, and why should/shouldn't we lynch him?
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August 20 2015 17:40 GMT
#886
On August 21 2015 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 02:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 21 2015 02:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 21 2015 02:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Kels you are here. What are your top scumreads?


dont have any


Seriously?

We're 44 pages into the game and you are telling me you don't have opinions on Fidei or Tubesock at least those two being the other two competing wagons?

You have/had an opinion on ruXxar and he's the leading wagon - you said previously you wanted to sheep town reads, so where are your strong town reads right now even?



waiting for marvauthority to vote then just sheep that


Let's say VA votes ruXxar. Then what?
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August 20 2015 17:41 GMT
#887
On August 21 2015 02:40 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 02:35 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 21 2015 02:31 Fidei86 wrote:
As I understand it, someone acts super troll-y for d1, and the first people who don't know that the person trolling is trolling to call the 'troll' scum are mafia.

It's stupid and I've never seen it work.


That is stupid if that's what it is. I personally can't tell whether people are sarcastic on forums in general without the use of emoticons or whatever. *shrug*

I'm not being sarcastic.


That was in reference to Chez, not you.
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August 20 2015 17:46 GMT
#888
I'm wrapping up dinner, going back to the hotel and lying down. Not for the night, I'll be sure to be back up before midnight.

Feeling better but not 100% >_<
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August 20 2015 18:38 GMT
#905
On mobile, bear with me....

On August 21 2015 03:12 Tubesock wrote:
@geript - I'd be fine with Yam, Kels, VA, LT, Beneather as policies. Although Ben will be modkilled I'm sure so basically equivelant to a no vote in a way.

I liked Chezinu early on. It's probably also because he's one of my favorite players to read so I don't want to lynch him as he's fun. kinda bummed he got one of the serious players. He hasn't really done anything since but sheep cool kids. So haha yeah pretty strong reason to not lynch a guy


That's actually a really poor reason not to lynch a guy or even townread them. A mafia player can townread someone and sheep someone for bad reasons, those same points were being brought up I believe against Rels. The bias on Chez is understandable since I recall you have your ways with some of the harder players to read (generally) but someone being "fun" I don't value the same as being town, I realise it's a personality game and I can understand a tone read on someone being lighthearted (normally) associating with being town, but I don't see the way you've listed as a valid reason for being town.

Also why is your vote still on Fidei? The other two I realise have been afk for a bit, but...
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August 20 2015 18:39 GMT
#908
WHAT??????

Tube did you even read some of Fidei's latest posts? Maybe I'm biased because I know his play better but how the hell is he still a top scumread?
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August 20 2015 18:49 GMT
#912
On August 21 2015 02:56 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 02:40 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 21 2015 02:37 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 21 2015 02:36 Half the Sky wrote:
On August 21 2015 02:34 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 21 2015 02:33 Half the Sky wrote:
Kels you are here. What are your top scumreads?


dont have any


Seriously?

We're 44 pages into the game and you are telling me you don't have opinions on Fidei or Tubesock at least those two being the other two competing wagons?

You have/had an opinion on ruXxar and he's the leading wagon - you said previously you wanted to sheep town reads, so where are your strong town reads right now even?



waiting for marvauthority to vote then just sheep that


Let's say VA votes ruXxar. Then what?


he's not stupid so he won't


That was a hypothetical, and you completely missed the point of what I was asking. I could have asked the similar question - what if VA gets modkilled? There's a reason I'm asking (either way) like this.

Don't even need to comment on everyone - shit the top issues alone will do. A number of people have stopped roleplaying so there's some beginning point (since you commented on it earlier.) Hell, what if VA is scum?

I mean I'd say just "waiting" the way you are is quite scummy, with <4h remaining...
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August 20 2015 18:50 GMT
#914
On August 21 2015 03:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 03:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
By the way I was thinking about it and if Lord Tolkien is FecalFeast, I am fairly vocal about my preference toward scum


I too am liking fidei more and more, still voting yamato until he does something I like.

1) Finally, someone figured it out. Now I can stop RPing and/or shitposting.

2) I am not, however, scum. So nyaaaaah. This is the same line of reasoning that I called out for being retarded when geript says: there's like an 80% chance that a Blazinghand role is scum". Role speculation based on flavor is bad and should make you feel bad.

For instance,
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia#3

Hearthstone Mafia. Tirion Fordring as a scum role? Kelthuzad and Rexxar as a town role? lel.


On #2, then who is?
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August 20 2015 21:13 GMT
#1012
Catching up.

Shit, Ignoring ruXxar's gameplay, Shining brings up a good point about the duelling wagons unlikely being both scum. And Fidei is most likely town.

ruXxar, that last post pisses me off, the timing is appropriate given how we are close to lynch, at some point you should have stopped roleplaying earlier or providing the reads for others if you had some important ability, should have just stuck to your NSM12 script honestly. If you are town, what can you give us in the final hour? EoD is midnight for us, you have south of an hour.

I'd argue that Rels is also a good pick for a DT check at this point.

Lord can live another day given his latest posting.

I'm switching to either of Kelsier/yamato/Tubesock, looking through Chezinu now and Tube again.

VA is not happening in my books. I don't understand still the argument.

Beneath is still policy.
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August 20 2015 21:14 GMT
#1014
That's the other thing actually....

Why isn't ruXxar doing jack shit now if he's town....or blue, or whatever...

this game...
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August 20 2015 21:16 GMT
#1017
FFS Kelsier.
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August 20 2015 21:17 GMT
#1019
On August 21 2015 06:01 Chezinu wrote:
I am not up for lynching ruXxar I think. Looked ok. Ballsy at multiple places. Could be town being honest.

I guess Chezinu is a bit less present as he is used to be. But we all should go back 6 months in time and give Chezinu till Day 3. When he is mafia it gets really obvious simply because within 3 days I somewhere bled town.

I would suggest to lynch somebody who seems to be doing something but really isn't doing anything.


Can you give names? You are the leading wagon by a country mile here....
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#1024
Switched to Tubesock btw.
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August 20 2015 21:19 GMT
#1028
Edit: not Tubesock, Kelsier.
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August 20 2015 21:20 GMT
#1030
On August 21 2015 06:19 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 06:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
mmmmmmmm................................................................


##unvote
##vote kelsierSC

Yeah, that makes sense

you are mafia


You haven't done jack shit all d1?
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August 20 2015 21:21 GMT
#1036
On August 21 2015 06:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2015 04:58 ruXxar wrote:
I'm blue.

Don't lynch me.

This is your last warning.if you're town, don't lynch me.

You'll go down in history as the idiot who lynched your town power role.

wait this is why ruxxar is being called town?


lol


Read what Shining wrote about the wagons earlier. I don't understand why ruxxar wasn't defending himself, esp if he has an important ability. The votes are off him now, but I'd still expect him to contribute SOEMTHING.

DT check him, Rels or possibly Damdred, but I think he might be okay.
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August 20 2015 21:22 GMT
#1037
KSC or Tubesock honestly. Yamato I think is getting shot.

40 minutes right?

##unvote
##vote Tubesock
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August 20 2015 21:23 GMT
#1041
Chez's filter is garbage but his filter I think is garbage as either alignment, so I still advocate DT check over lynch for him.
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August 20 2015 21:27 GMT
#1048
On August 21 2015 06:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
where is ritoky?


Good question, but OGI could be a reason he's afk if you think about it, who knows.

I actually shouldn't be here myself tbh given my present state IRL, but if I collapse/have to tank before midnight I will let you all know.
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August 20 2015 21:28 GMT
#1051
On August 21 2015 06:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Tube sock gogogo
Tictoc is still niggling at the back of my mind too.


Voted Tube, but why Tictock, seemed alright to me.

Damdred, any additional info you had would be grand, I personally understood your last post but most of the game clearly hasn't.
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August 20 2015 21:31 GMT
#1057
I am not well. 15 minute timeout, I will return at 2345 :/
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August 20 2015 21:51 GMT
#1096
I'm back.

My head is spinning with respect to this game. Hold on.

Tubesock is up to six votes like that too...the push on Fidei is bad, but does that make him mafia?
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August 20 2015 21:52 GMT
#1103
Fuck it. ruXxar fucked off after the softing. Him or Yamato. My mind isn't in position to analyse Chez - DT check him if you please.

##unvote
##vote ruxxar
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#1106
On August 21 2015 06:53 Rels wrote:
OK with that ruxx switch


Where the bloody hell have you been? >_<
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#1107
We need 2 more on him.
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August 20 2015 21:54 GMT
#1111
RUXXAR FFS IF YOU HAD AN IMPORTANT ABILITY CLAIM OR NO CLAIM WHY DID YOU FUCK OFF
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August 20 2015 21:57 GMT
#1122
On August 21 2015 06:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
wait chezinu claims mafia and gives up then votes to save himself after saying he wanted to vote himself?


##unvote
##vote chezinu


Chezinu claiming mafia was him roleplaying Koshi FFS did you forget Ippo already?
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August 20 2015 21:58 GMT
#1130
On August 21 2015 06:58 Fidei86 wrote:
HTS you think that Chez is town?


50/50 - filter is shit as either alignment, could be either, DT check in my books over lynch.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 22:00 GMT
#1141
Rels coming back out of nowhere and saying the ruxxar wagon is good just makes me scared like shit.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 20 2015 22:00 GMT
#1143
It's midnight. Moment of truth.
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August 21 2015 18:02 GMT
#1290
I'm back home in London.

I'm really disappointed in the ruXxar lynch, and yea I was partially responsible for that.

He fucked off and I feared a similar situation that I had in my newbie game where my scum teammate claimed medic and fucked off.

I skimmed through and I 1000% agree on Rels. The way he just came back at EoD and said the ruxxar lynch is okay, that should have tipped me off, I'm such an idiot.

And he was eating??? When I asked him why he was afk, he was eating.....for the last 12 odd hours? Just no.

Skimming through I do NOT understand ANY of the scum reads on geript. Zero.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:08 GMT
#1295
Quality/family time later tonight closer to end of night/resolution, so I'm going to just finish catching up. Any questions for me, I am here for roughly the next hour.

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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:08 GMT
#1296
Rels, you are mafia for your reactions at EoD. Come on.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:10 GMT
#1298
On August 22 2015 02:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
I do support you being so afraid of me you have to policy lynch me though lol

I still think HtS and Rels are town though
Reasoning on Rels originally was
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2015 20:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 20 2015 17:39 Rels wrote:
fidei + tubesock scumteam
only meaningful posts from tubesock comes from discussion with fidei
tubesocks does nothing except naming some townreads and defending from fidei, goes to sleep
then fidei townreads him

Might be wrong but love his thinking.
Town pile
Tube sock comes off worse looking than fidei imo

Genuine on the spot analysis looked really towny here during that argument.

I don't agree that Rels should be the shot---it should be someone who is actually not playing/difficult to figure out otherwise.


If Rels/Yamato are getting shot then DT check (assuming it's not a parity we have) Kelsier/Chez, even Tubesock.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:12 GMT
#1301
On August 22 2015 03:09 Rels wrote:
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On August 22 2015 03:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Rels, you are mafia for your reactions at EoD. Come on.

Are you convincing me I'm mafia


That was more or less in response to comment 1292. As in, meta is not needed as to say why you are mafia.

(Though if we had to compare irregardless of personality effect, your play here is vastly different to your town games, still I feel there is a stronger argument, whatever.)
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:12 GMT
#1302
On August 22 2015 03:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 22 2015 03:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Rels, you are mafia for your reactions at EoD. Come on.

EoD reactions don't mean nearly as much as you think.
I've been called scum as town multiple times for not reacting the way people 'expect' after a lynch.
Not buying it.


I am talking about his reactions prior to the lynch, not after.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:14 GMT
#1305
Kelsier/Yamato/Bill Murray, you three need to actually explain why geript is mafia.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:21 GMT
#1308
On August 22 2015 03:14 Rels wrote:
Hts
I switched because I townread you and I followed you
And because of the soft blue claim
In retrospect he was roleplaying ls fakeclaiming


First off, the bolded does not automatically make you town. I know several instances of where mafia sheeped me on a case that I have made on townies playing poorly (examples: mafia Palmar/Damdred in Titanic 7 when I cased Fecalfeast/rayn, mafia marvellosity in Assassination when I cased Vivax).

And roleplaying LS fakeclaiming isn't a great reason either. LS will claim at the slightest pressure. ruXxar was the leading wagon at that point (I believe) by a country mile. A soft blue claim from a veteran's purpose is to draw KP, and had he not fucked off I would not have re-voted him.

So that argument is invalid as well.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:21 GMT
#1309
On August 22 2015 03:20 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2015 03:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Kelsier/Yamato/Bill Murray, you three need to actually explain why geript is mafia.


rayn said so


Inadequate. Try again.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:25 GMT
#1312
Damdred's voting of ruXxar IS consistent with the first wave of reads he provided. I remember demanding reads and though he did it in character speak I was able to interpret that ruxxar was one of his top scum reads.

On August 21 2015 02:02 Damdred wrote:
Greetings to all and may your soul be merry oj this joyous day.

The bank has opened its doors so you may have a look at the books. Because the bank has kept a list and it is now on public display.

Damdreds great friends ows and geript have received a total of 10 cheznoes this erases geripts loan payment and has kept him out of debt! Aren't friends great both of these guys are receiving alignment presents hopefully my umbrella is big enough to protect all three.

HTS and Shining have both received 5 cheznoes they are able to multiply there earnings soon. But no presents tonight I'm afraid.

Sadly there are some people who haven't invested in the bank nor want anything to do with them.

Ruxxar is just so mean and not fun what use would he have for a bank in his dastardly plans.

Chez the most fun has sank into the heart of despair and darkness and eyes are made of fire


FF is just so sad and lonely maybe the damdred rule misfired? Doubt seeps in what is a damdred to do he might investbine day further notes must be taken.

For now that's all you get the bank will open again soon be patient and say those deposits


Now the REAL question is why Damdred voted ruXxar over Chez, both were very close. If Chez flips mafia, this would greatly support an argument for Damdred being mafia or anti-town third party if he is third party.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:28 GMT
#1315
He says he didn't want to vote Chez "suddenly" but he did just that for ruXxar.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:30 GMT
#1317
WoS, I hear you, I am trying to think things through. He says he didn't want to vote Chez suddenly but did just that for ruXxar, there's no explicit saying "oh Chez is likely town for subsequent comments" etc etc or anything, and yeh I know from Gaiden geript knows his thing on Damdred, and I'm 99% sure geript is town, so I definitely trust him there.

A Chez flip to me will indicate where Damdred really stands, that is how I see it now.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:31 GMT
#1318
Rels, I never reconsidered. I found your behaviour sketchy from the off.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:37 GMT
#1323
WoS, Breshke usually displays the following traits as mafia

1 Perfect information means he's more aggressive towards scumreads. He voted ruXxar early but I need to re-examine his tone, I don't recall it being too wordy and too many questions so he is probably town. I need to go back and see if there's an explanation though.
2 As mafia, especially on Day 1, he rarely if ever develops scumreads until closer to, or at the end of day. The downside here is that this meta CAN be broken.

Yes the above is based on meta, but let me see if I can look at his filter and try and ignore meta.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:39 GMT
#1326
Normally when Breshke is mafia he has a realllllyyyyy roundabout way of getting the scumreads and pushing them. It is hard for me to articulate, but Titanic 7 is probably the best example of this. If he breaks meta, you want to look for the aggressive tone. I think that's how I'm going to approach it at least for the time being.

The other thing is that I know he's in university so he may have long-ish periods of afk that are NAI. He's gotten tanked by that as both alignments.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:50 GMT
#1329
I just went through Breshke's filter. At the end he's saying he's roleplaying - if he WASN'T roleplaying then he's mafia. Then again, the level of aggression he shows though is beyond what he shows when he IS mafia and is trying to corner suboptimal townies.

Bah game is hard. I wouldn't shoot him, DT check him if you are REALLY paranoid, but there are better targets in both categories.

I have no idea who he's playing though...but that's besides the point.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:52 GMT
#1330
If I had to ignore roleplay, Breshke is probably town. He didn't have a problem coming up with reads and he was direct and to the point.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 18:57 GMT
#1331
Side note for geript:

On August 22 2015 03:05 geript wrote:
Also fwiw, I cover him some in the Newbie analysis here


Sidenote - this is the wrong game. Rels was definitely not in this game, I assume you were talking about him, I remember this game, you were my mafia coach.

Unless you were referring to Tubesock in this game. Or Shining. And they were both town in that game.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 19:01 GMT
#1333
Tubesock and Rels, if they are not shot definitely need to be the next lynches. That last post of his (the former) was bad.

Tube, talk to us about EoD or something way the hell more contested than that.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 19:07 GMT
#1336
Alright, dinner with my husband, I may or may not be back.

Scumreads at this time: Tubesock, Rels, Kelsier, Yamato. Shoot the first two if at all possible please.
DT check Kelsier/Chezinu/Damdred (in that order).

I am pretty sure Tictock is town, and I had a town read on ritoky, it was on the weaker end but I am willing to believe the handicap he cited. Ritoky would probably be in the paranoid DT check category as well.

Shining is town, I am also fairly sure of that.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 19:08 GMT
#1339
Fecalfeast has also been forgettable but I'm not sure if that means anything yet.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 19:09 GMT
#1341
On August 21 2015 08:08 JudgeJudy wrote:
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bleh that's annoying. Had to stick around work longer than I had planned. Seems a bunch of shenanigans went during the last hour. I'll have to re-read tomorrow.

Hi rayn and BM!


JudgeJudy, some input from you on EoD would be grand too.

Now I'm out.
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Germany9029 Posts
August 21 2015 22:02 GMT
#1370
What?!?!?!?

GGs. Obs please.
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Germany9029 Posts
September 04 2015 22:21 GMT
#4237
On September 05 2015 07:16 kitaman27 wrote:
[image loading]

Phew. GG all ^_^

Thanks for hosting Onegu and Rsoultin!


WP Kita I knew it was you. Called it in obs qt.
Well carried but fuck you for (coming with the idea of) killing me N1 >_<

As for the modding I thought the town/scum/3p wincons were defined in the OP like they are most themed games. That's the only thing to say there. Unless it was said and I missed it.

Thanks for hosting though you two.
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Germany9029 Posts
September 04 2015 22:23 GMT
#4239
On September 05 2015 07:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 07:10 Damdred wrote:
I actually figured it was jj I confirmed during night phase thus would happen and just hoped they would,just lynch tt


lol thank you kindly

Also, how did you guys know JJ was me in the quicktopic? Hacks. o.O


Your writing style, dialect (NE US - my brother lives in NYC so I'm aware) and time of day activity gave you away.

I am pretty decent at picking up smurfs as either alignment.
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Germany9029 Posts
September 04 2015 22:34 GMT
#4241
That said, I missed playing with you Kita...

Roll town with me next time please <3

And we were not sure in observer whether scum team got their mason or not, looks like you did after all.
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Germany9029 Posts
September 05 2015 00:07 GMT
#4305
On September 05 2015 08:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
So much unfounded rage.
I'm not super happy with the wincon, or the fact that I wasn't included as a role and had not much idea of how to play the one I got, but I've played in worse games.

Although then again maybe I'm not raging cause it's been like 2 weeks since I did anything lol


My style isn't "quirky" and I haven't been on the site even a year so an old timer will be lost on how to play me or any or the newish (<1yr) players.

It could have been the other way too. I barely played a passable Oatsmaster but decided to drop that because I wasn't readable as town.

Roles were pure RNG same with personalities not sure what everyone is on about (not at Wave specifically but at in general).

As for town play several players failed to make themselves readable as town. That said Wave, I think we'll have to agree to disagree on ritoky, even throwing out my meta read on him I would have tunnelled him until I was mechanically proven wrong.
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Germany9029 Posts
September 05 2015 00:11 GMT
#4306
Anyways the only one worthy of my rage right now is bloody Kita, not because he won, he deserved it, but because he N1ed me.

Again, fuck you

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September 05 2015 00:23 GMT
#4308
In any case I'm out for now -

Shameless plug of course - if you are down for another themed, sign up here. You won't be disappointed!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/492991-tinseltown-mafia-its-raining-swag

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September 05 2015 00:24 GMT
#4310
On September 05 2015 09:11 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 09:05 kitaman27 wrote:

I really liked the upgrade mechanic too. It was interesting.

I agree about this. It was well done in general, but it still pissed me off when I found out about it.


100%
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Last Edited: 2015-09-05 16:55:08
September 05 2015 16:52 GMT
#4389
#3 is somewhat subjective depending on the offence, but otherwise, the rest of the list is spot on.

Missing deadlines, barring last-minute emergencies, I think part of that solution is also finding co-hosts with similar or compatible schedules and I usually tell newer cohosts to sort out or flesh out general availability before starting a game, if we know there's a day of the week or a certain time coverage is going to be sparse, you either adjust EoD before the games or find a third co-host if you don't have one. 11th hour emergency, get someone entirely neutral to stand in.

I know there are more complicated mechanics beyond 3p roles (like vote rigging or redirects, or such) where if there's some guidance on balancing non-traditional mechanics it would greatly help some of those newer to running themed games or even playing in them as I saw several of the newer players in this game try and grasp those things. Most conventional like RBs/KP/inv checks are fairly easy to work with, it's just the stuff that is considered different.
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