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On August 20 2015 12:46 Breshke wrote:
Judge can we talk about your scumread on me? Can you explain it for me please? Is it just that you think i was trying to misrepresent ritoky about the RNG thing?
On August 19 2015 12:50 Breshke wrote:
SO YES I AM SAYING HE LIED ABOUT HOW HE RNG'D OR HE SPECIFICALLY CHOSE FIDEL.
Do i have a reason why he chose fidel? No. But from what he has said i don't see how he could have rng'd him.
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Sure, you decided to discuss the topic of whether or not ritoky RNG'd his target based on some imaginary "coefficient of stupidness" or whatever it was called and concluded that he was a liar or was specifically targeting fidel. You then made little attempt to interpret your conclusions. The first point you made is meaningless by itself. Is he lying because he is mafia and using rng as a scapegoat for providing actual reads? Is he specifically targeting fidel for an easy mislynch? You don't really touch on that stuff at all.
On August 19 2015 12:41 Breshke wrote:
Not to say his following read on fidel is bad but I don't wanna talk about that until fidel has been around some more
And then there is stuff like this. You don't comment on the actual read on fidel, but instead go after the rng discussion. Now that fidel has actually posted that giant list of reads, you still haven't talked about him and instead want to defend yourself against my suspicions or something, which doesn't equate to any scum hunting on your part.
Why aren't you talking about fidel or your suspicions?
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On August 20 2015 13:03 geript wrote:
ATTENTION!!! If you aren't voting for for one of these people, then you're doing it wrong. Only people on the following list will be lynched on D1. Personally I have a preference for Rels, HtS, Chez, Yam or Kelsier. Overall, those are the strongest players and are effectively being completely useless. The fact that this list contains so many people is a major issue because that means no one cares about this game in general.
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Heh I wish I could take a bulldozer to half the player list. But not with this bulldozer. I don't trust him. Look at those shifty eyes.
On August 20 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
In any case as I said I'm not really after you today. The gifs are annoying though.
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Excellent! I've got a double dose just for you.
On August 20 2015 12:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Reads on Chez and Rels...I've never seen Chez play a game for reals right from the start before. No idea how to read that.
Rels is barely playing, how to YOU read him?
I think geript made a decent point about chezinu a bit earlier. He has fallen off the map since then, so it's tough to say more until he returns.
For rels, he had a weird interaction with ticktock early on in the game. It came off unnecessarily aggressive:
"I thought that was clear though maybe it's too complex for you."
Which could be possibly an attempt at scum-to-scum conversation. Maybe I'm thinking too far into that though. His strong opinion on fidel is redeeming for his townyness.
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Chez, you haven't mentioned tube at all this game, yet you just voted for him. What gives?
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On August 20 2015 15:22 Tubesock wrote:
I'll talk more about Fidei in a little bit.
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Did you forget about this? :/
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On August 20 2015 23:04 Breshke wrote:
TT is town because he was trying to interpret damdreds chez talk which is a standard unquestioned town thing he does (I think it was him or maybe it was tube). So yeah
Also judge I rly cbf you are saying I had to say the ritoky thing was black or white when really it's grey like it's stupid that he is claiming he rngd Fidel and people were "sleeping rng" and yes it would normally be scummy but that doesn't mean it is this game because he is being bh and just because I disagree with how he went about doesn't mean he is scum
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So what do you actually think about Fidel then? You said you wanted to wait until he posted more, which he clearly has by now.
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Yeah usually to justify lynching a lurker or inactive, I prefer to at least have something I can point to that rubs me the wrong way. Of the three that you mentioned, I'd agree chezinu is probably the one I'd be most willing to kill off.
That being said, if we don't have a great alternative, it wouldn't break my heart to see yamato die.
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I just re-read Chezinu's filter and I'm satisfied enough to ##Vote Chezinu.
We really should start consolidating on a couple of targets so it's not a last minute thing that comes down to the three people who happen to be around at the deadline.
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On August 21 2015 03:36 Tubesock wrote:
Granted, Chezinu hasn't done much. What do you think of how he went after Damdred or Ritoky? I liked it felt towny to me. His downsides are that he isn't continuing it, and other than knowing his 4 current townreads, no one knows if he still scums Damdred or Ritoky. How does that outweigh 2 others who are doing some majorly weird shit?
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I wouldn't really say he was "going after" Damdred. More like he brought up his name once in passing. For ritoky, he went after the rng push at an early point in the game. That's fine as an opening discussion point I suppose, but nothing I'd give him town credit for. It's not like mafia can't talk about that just as easily.
On August 19 2015 08:40 Chezinu wrote:
Trying to find scum would be a better option.
On August 19 2015 08:40 Chezinu wrote:
Why don't you try finding scum? It's more the part that you are not trying to find scum and are just bantering away like a mofo
He goes on to chastise people for not scumhunting and then when he returns to the thread he posts a list of town reads and says he is going to sheep one of them, essentially failing to do what he questions others about.
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About to drive home. Pretty sure I'll be back in time for flip.
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bleh that's annoying. Had to stick around work longer than I had planned. Seems a bunch of shenanigans went during the last hour. I'll have to re-read tomorrow.
Hi rayn and BM!
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On August 21 2015 06:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
wait chezinu claims mafia and gives up then votes to save himself after saying he wanted to vote himself?
##unvote
##vote chezinu
On August 21 2015 06:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
OK chez isn';t mafia but idk the rux wagon is scummy yolo
##unvote
##vote waveofshadow
Fecal, what made you turn away from the chez lynch? He didn't have any posts between these two posts above.
Tube could be a decent night shot. A lot of defending himself and a few unnecessarily aggressive comments like "Hypocrisy is delicious." and "You guys are retarded.". His most redeeming part for me right now is the fact that he chose to vote chez over the flipped town when he said he didn't have a strong preference between the two. I suppose that becomes null if chez is town too though.
If chez does flip mafia at some point, I think LT would come off looking pretty scummy. He talks about consolidating about chez, but once there is consolidation on chez, he shows a preference for rux and tube without a ton of explanation. Then he talks about shooting yamato instead of chez.
In the back of my mind, I'm kinda paranoid that geript is like the mafia leader or something and is trying to buddy me a bit at some point. I doubt I would ever consider lynching him until at least day 5 or something though.
Wave, what is the game you are referring to about Kelsier? I don't see any reference to it earlier on, but maybe I missed it.
I still think Breshke is mafia.
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Hmm looking through the filters, this is who each player was scum reading prior to death. Both were pretty anti-tube and Kelsier and chezinu were on both their radar as well.
Half the Sky
Strong suspicion of Tubesock and Rels.
Secondary suspicion of Kelsier, Yamato.
Minor suspicion of Chezinu and Damdred.
WaveofShadow
Strong suspicion of Tubesock and Kelsier
Secondary suspicion of Chezinu and Ticktock.
Nothing too surprising with the shots I suppose. Both decent players.
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On August 22 2015 08:01 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 07:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
omg really ritoky? Your role is worse than mine then. You're a non-foctor today since you rng'd town can you respond to some of what i found in your filter. and also give a list of at least scum reads? town reads are okay too.
On August 22 2015 04:24 JudgeJudy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2015 06:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
wait chezinu claims mafia and gives up then votes to save himself after saying he wanted to vote himself?
##unvote
##vote chezinu Show nested quote +On August 21 2015 06:59 Fecalfeast wrote:
OK chez isn';t mafia but idk the rux wagon is scummy yolo
##unvote
##vote waveofshadow Fecal, what made you turn away from the chez lynch? He didn't have any posts between these two posts above.
This one too.
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I tend to agree that ritoky's role doesn't really sound legit.
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On August 22 2015 08:08 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 08:06 geript wrote:
There's literally zero reason to not lynch ritoky. There's literally zero reason to believe ritoky. There's zero way that can be his role. If it is then the game is irrelevant because that should never ever be a role in any game.
Like the basic rules of fucking mafia is that you always get to control your own vote. Like there are roles that can alter votes (stealing votes, doubling votes, vote rigging, pardoning etc). But even those are generally exceptionally bad form in themed games. On top of that we've seen 3 roles flip and they're all normal. There's no reason to expect super not normal roles. Bottom line ritoky is lying and should be lynched. my role states i cant vote anyone who other people are voting so i believe his roile
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On August 21 2015 06:54 rsoultin wrote:
Day 1 Votecount
Damdred (2): Fecalfeast, Fecalfeast, ruXxar, Chezinu, Fecalfeast, KelsierSC
errr, yet it counted when you did voted damdred and someone already voting damdred?
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On August 22 2015 08:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
I keep forgetting that damdred is claimed survivor i'm dumb
yeah as far as I'm concerned, damdred isn't worth considering at any point until lylo. He could be fake claiming survivor, but nobody else has claimed survivor and he seems more trolly than scummy at this point. chez is likely in this game since he is such a strong personality and nobody else seems like they are chez. Plus chezinu was a survivor in Personality 2 so the claim seems legit for now.
kel.....why are you alignment checking HtS of all people?
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On August 22 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2015 08:38 JudgeJudy wrote:On August 22 2015 08:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
I keep forgetting that damdred is claimed survivor i'm dumb yeah as far as I'm concerned, damdred isn't worth considering at any point until lylo. He could be fake claiming survivor, but nobody else has claimed survivor and he seems more trolly than scummy at this point. chez is likely in this game since he is such a strong personality and nobody else seems like they are chez. Plus chezinu was a survivor in Personality 2 so the claim seems legit for now. kel.....why are you alignment checking HtS of all people? ? huh?
I think he claimed that he checks the alignment of the player he votes or something. Maybe I misread.
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The thing about ritoky that is sketchy is that he is writing up cases and stuff about the people he claims to have rng'd. It's one thing to have to vote a player in the voting thread, but I'm almost positive a host wouldn't make a role that says "you have to actively push for this rng'd player's lynch." That would be pointless for the player to even be in the game.
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I tend to agree with Rels about yamato. He said he would play day two when he was under fire and then goes back to afk. He even admits to playing CS:GO for 7 hours so it's not like he doesn't have the time to give a few reads. This game isn't exactly too difficult to keep up with. Voting for him at the moment.
Wave mentioned that he thought kel was acting similar to when they were scum buddies in a similar game. As far as I can tell, he is referring to TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden. I do see the similarities between that one and this one. Looking at his town games like Himalayas, there are a lot more questions throughout your filter, where as this one there are very few, if any. Take a look at this filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/487093-mafia-in-the-himalayas?user=KelsierSC&view=all
At this point, there are so many people that I'd want to kill off, that I don't even know where to start. It could very well be some sort of massive afk scum team like BM, rayn, tube, chez, kel, yamato and then town just loses because there are too many people who simply haven't said anything this game to kill them all off.
Even someone like chezinu is flying way too under the radar considering his day two contributions. All he has talked about is how he wants us to active some power and how he is happy he isn't getting lynched.
HtS was really, really suspicious of Rels prior to death, but at least he has a couple of meaningful posts this cycle. Town cred is so easy to earn at this point by simply doing anything, but I don't mind awarding it, if the alternative is a bunch of nothingness.
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On August 24 2015 01:17 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Tube is getting nuked: at this point I'm not even going to believe a "green check" claim on him to save his ass. Shining's fate is tied to tube.
Shining would look worse if tube flips town, while someone like chez flips mafia, but I don't necessarily think that "Shining's fate" should be tied to tube. I could see a situation where a town player shoots a town tube.
On August 24 2015 01:13 Rels wrote:
Judge: what do you think of ff ?
Don't think I would lynch him today. His kill list seems pretty close to mine. Would probably want to look at him closer a cycle or two from now.
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