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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 26 2015 15:10 GMT
#2661
Kels voting me....maybe I die then
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 15:13 GMT
#2662
no I believe in the ritoky roleblock
really his posts last night changed my mind about him, pretty sure he's town
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
August 26 2015 15:15 GMT
#2663
JJ why has obi been town all game?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 26 2015 15:20 GMT
#2664
These gifs are making this game unbearable to look at.
Retired.
JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 26 2015 15:47 GMT
#2665
[image loading]

On August 26 2015 23:55 Breshke wrote:
JJ give me a list of people you are considering for mafia?


It hasn't changed a ton since my last list at the start of today (or maybe it was right before the n2 deadline? I forget.)

I think LT is probably going to flip mafia based on the red check, the inactivity, the pgo stuff, etc. If he flips town, then I'd need to re-evaluate the cop checks since they conflict with each other. At this point, I think I'd probably be more willing to lynch KSC for that scenario. chez would probably be mafia in a situation where LT is town.

If LT flips mafia, I'd still likely go after KSC. The whole "my check wasn't important" then randomly a red check on LT, in combination with FF returning a "no check" makes the whole thing seem pretty sketchy. The most likely scenario is that he claimed a red check on LT who was going to die anyways and then wanted to town cred because he was pretty close to next on the pecking order anyways. I think four cops seems pretty unlikely as well. I'm not sure I've ever seen that many in a single game.

Late, late game if KSC flips town and FF is still around shooting out checks without being roleblocked or shot then I'd assume he would be a good mafia candidate due to the unlikely 4th cop scenario.

Ritoky I'm leaning null-mafia because of the whole "push the random lynch" stuff early on and the game. This one kinda comes with a processes of elimination since the ones below I'm more town on than anything. If LT/chez and one or both of ksc and ff flip mafia then the game is probably over by this point anyways. The one thing that worries me is that mafia probably has a roleblocker in a setup with all blues. Claiming the roleblock on HTS does strike me as odd though. I went back into his filter, thinking that he had called HTS one of his town reads, but in fact he was suspicious about HTS for a post towards the end of the cycle, which would line up with when the roleblock was submitted. That's the biggest reason I would have doubts, since claiming a rb on an obvious town player makes him look bad. That could be wifom, but I'm not sure. The scenario I'm considering is that he wanted town cred for revealing geript's qt is fake and claiming rb would be the way to show that HTS didnt get off a watcher result. Not sure if that makes sense though.

Obi I thought was kinda town at the start of the game. I was comparing his town filters in the database against this one and things seemed rather similar. As mafia, I noticed he likes to randomly jump in the thread and ask people to make him talk about a certain subject. I know people mentioned that his anger looked fake or exaggerated, but he does tend to be an emotional player. I wanna say I remember something like that in a specific game, but I'll have to go back and see if I can find the example again. I wouldn't place him above geript, breshke, fidei, TT or rels, but I'd rather have him around instead of the others above.

The town alignment checked players seem fine to me. The rayn lynches other than myself I haven't paid much attention to at this point. There is a scenario where rayn could have been a mafia driven bus for late game cred, but I think that is less likely since tube showed up at the last second to vote rels. It could be rels + tube + rayn in that situation, but I think rels has looked pretty townie. I plan to do a full re-read of each of the non-confirmed players, but I've only done one so far (fidei) and he seems town even if you take out the rayn stuff in my opinion.

Where are you at breshke?

On August 26 2015 23:52 Breshke wrote:
So has jj claimed any role actions?


Nope. Revealing my role benefits mafia more than town in my opinion. I'd be willing to claim it if we ever reached a mass claim situation (which I don't think we should do just yet), but there isn't a great reason to just throw it out randomly at this point.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 15:52 GMT
#2666
^ it really aligns with what I think. Except the ritoky bit, I like ritoky more than you.
One thing: when/if LT flips mafia, chez is town for you ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 15:54 GMT
#2667
Cause either Chez or FF is lying, so if Chez is town, he *knows* FF is not-town. But Chez called the possibility of FF being town when discussing with me earlier. I cannot see a town player forgetting something obvious like that.
JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 26 2015 15:57 GMT
#2668
[image loading]

On August 27 2015 00:52 Rels wrote:
^ it really aligns with what I think. Except the ritoky bit, I like ritoky more than you.
One thing: when/if LT flips mafia, chez is town for you ?


Unless there is a good explanation for why LT would nuke chez on day two (maybe LT flips with a fake nuke or something?), then yeah I think chez would be town.

Who would you pick in place of ritoky then Rels?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 15:58 GMT
#2669
I pretty much completely agree with what JJ said above, save that I'm still pretty sceptical of ritoky's RB claim (or that ritoky being RBer necessarily makes him a town RBer - isn't RBer more usually a mafia role?). I mean, with multiple KP to be delivered, scum were going to have to use up their bench. Going for the tin-foil-hat play in D1 seems sub-optimal, particularly where it was highly likely that mafia would have anti-town powers beyond just delivering KPs.

But yeah, I can see that it would be better to sort out the whole Chez/FF/LT/KSC cluster**** first. It really sucks that town have had so many green players play so poorly - it has made the whole thing really much more difficult than it should have been. Fortunately, Rels has put us on his back a little bit :-)
JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 26 2015 15:59 GMT
#2670
[image loading]

On August 27 2015 00:54 Rels wrote:
Cause either Chez or FF is lying, so if Chez is town, he *knows* FF is not-town. But Chez called the possibility of FF being town when discussing with me earlier. I cannot see a town player forgetting something obvious like that.


Could you elaborate on the part where town chez knows FF isn't town? I think I may have missed that part.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 16:00 GMT
#2671
On August 27 2015 00:57 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 00:52 Rels wrote:
^ it really aligns with what I think. Except the ritoky bit, I like ritoky more than you.
One thing: when/if LT flips mafia, chez is town for you ?


Unless there is a good explanation for why LT would nuke chez on day two (maybe LT flips with a fake nuke or something?), then yeah I think chez would be town.

Who would you pick in place of ritoky then Rels?

Mafia team:
LT
KSC
Then maybe:
FF (is there is no explanation for the "no result" in LT's role)
OWS (if there is one more mafia)
ritoky (if Chezinu is actually town)

Not-town:
Chezinu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 16:02 GMT
#2672
On August 27 2015 00:59 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

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On August 27 2015 00:54 Rels wrote:
Cause either Chez or FF is lying, so if Chez is town, he *knows* FF is not-town. But Chez called the possibility of FF being town when discussing with me earlier. I cannot see a town player forgetting something obvious like that.


Could you elaborate on the part where town chez knows FF isn't town? I think I may have missed that part.

On August 26 2015 21:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 20:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Has Chezinu actually claimed who he checked n2? I can't see it in his filter, but I've been known to miss things.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:46 Fidei86 wrote:
@Chez who did you check and what was the result?

I received a pm stating said person was 3P and was dead.

So yamato77.

Wow wait a minute. FF checked WOS N1 and didn't get a PM 'cause WOS died.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes


LOL So once again on of Chez and FF is lying.

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 16:03 GMT
#2673
Plus other stuff, everything is here:

On August 26 2015 21:26 Rels wrote:
Alright lots of work for me to do this afternoon so won't be very active. For the US later, here are what I think about some people:

LT is non-town, probably mafia:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 26 2015 18:23 Rels wrote:
Lord Tolkien in the last 12 hours

1
LT promised some reads in the first post he came back but never gave them. Instead he spent hours talking about his abilities and defending himself.
2
LT claimed to check Damdred last night when it is an idiotic check. His explanation for that is in his last game, a townie fakeclaimed a 3P ... did he seriously believe Damdred was actually town.
3
LT being VT is not believable in this setup.
4
LT tried to explain the contradictory checks by saying FF got roleblocked, which is not the case. When corrected, he dropped the subject to talk about something else.

In addition to the other stuff (3 posts wanting to check rayn, not nuking the 2nd town wagon, sheeping a vote on me with excuses to be semi AFK at deadline D2).

@LT: Only you can explain the "no result" check of FF, so I suggest you make up a town role that returns "no result" to check really fast so I can laugh.



Chezinu is non-town (juicy theory about dead player check PM!):
+ Show Spoiler +

Only serious post is his list post which is non coherent with the game. He also didn't answer my interrogation.
On August 26 2015 18:17 Rels wrote:
WTF Chez

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Lord Tolkien

How is his attitude green ? And how do you explain two contradictory checks ?

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Breshke

Last post talking about Breshke before the list had him as mafia ? And after this post you attack him again ?
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 10:13 Breshke wrote:
LT I'm kinda confused. You are saying you had no abilities whatsoever before your upgrade?

Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now.

OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!?


Chez cannot possible be town. WTF too many not-town players in this game.

On August 26 2015 21:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 20:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Has Chezinu actually claimed who he checked n2? I can't see it in his filter, but I've been known to miss things.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:46 Fidei86 wrote:
@Chez who did you check and what was the result?

I received a pm stating said person was 3P and was dead.

So yamato77.

Wow wait a minute. FF checked WOS N1 and didn't get a PM 'cause WOS died.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes


LOL So once again on of Chez and FF is lying.




KSC may be non-town, LT's flip will give info:
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 26 2015 18:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 06:02 geript wrote:
Like to explain. That's like a classic rsoultin phrase in response to the who "she's harder to lynch because she's a girl" bs that popped up a bit around gaiden. Remember Marv's nickname for her? Mafia suicide inducer. Plus with as often as she's rolled scum as of late it makes perfect sense.

And this is sooo clever. KSC has to be rsoultin I agree. Maybe that makes a lot of sense. I actually think KSC is a mafia vig and LT a SK.
Best course of action IMO is lynch LT (confirmed not town + clarifie some stuff) and nuke + ritoky roleblock KSC in the night.

On August 26 2015 18:08 Rels wrote:
Mm. That makes no sense with LT wanting to check rayn 3 times.

On August 26 2015 18:10 Rels wrote:
Whatever we have a roleblock and LT's alignment and role will give info on FF. Still thinking LT is the best lynch, but I think LT is mafia, and KSC is either mafia vig or SK.

On August 26 2015 19:53 Rels wrote:
So ksc did nothing except vote early on a mafia and checked people. Dunno how you can townread him while being suspicious of jj at the same time. But we ll have more info with the flip



Leaving work so afk for more or less 1 hour.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 16:05 GMT
#2674
His response to LT being green in his lynch list was "I was faking it so the mafia team would anti nuke me", which I don't believe for a second.

On August 26 2015 21:56 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 18:17 Rels wrote:
WTF Chez

On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Lord Tolkien

How is his attitude green ? And how do you explain two contradictory checks ?

On August 26 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
Breshke

Last post talking about Breshke before the list had him as mafia ? And after this post you attack him again ?
On August 26 2015 10:13 Chezinu wrote:
On August 26 2015 10:13 Breshke wrote:
LT I'm kinda confused. You are saying you had no abilities whatsoever before your upgrade?

Also all the nukes that were received during the middle of the night were from me. Interesting that some people haven't claimed them do you want me to out you? You should claim now.

OH KNOW YOU ATTEMPTING THAT YOU GAVE ME THE ANTI-NUKE!?!?!?


Chez cannot possible be town. WTF too many not-town players in this game.

Breshke is obv green cause gives me anti-nuke and knows stuff.

Calling Lord green was in hopes of somehow obtaining an anti-nuke from mafia in hopes of saving myself by pretending 3P.

JudgeJudy
Profile Joined August 2015
188 Posts
August 26 2015 16:12 GMT
#2675
[image loading]

On August 27 2015 01:02 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 00:59 JudgeJudy wrote:
[image loading]

On August 27 2015 00:54 Rels wrote:
Cause either Chez or FF is lying, so if Chez is town, he *knows* FF is not-town. But Chez called the possibility of FF being town when discussing with me earlier. I cannot see a town player forgetting something obvious like that.


Could you elaborate on the part where town chez knows FF isn't town? I think I may have missed that part.

Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 21:05 Rels wrote:
On August 26 2015 20:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Has Chezinu actually claimed who he checked n2? I can't see it in his filter, but I've been known to miss things.

On August 25 2015 18:49 Chezinu wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:46 Fidei86 wrote:
@Chez who did you check and what was the result?

I received a pm stating said person was 3P and was dead.

So yamato77.

Wow wait a minute. FF checked WOS N1 and didn't get a PM 'cause WOS died.

On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes


LOL So once again on of Chez and FF is lying.



Ah yeah, considering ritoky claims the roleblock on chez that means two people are refuting his actions unless it's FF + ritoky red and chez town, which doesn't make a ton of sense for them to double refute if chez wasn't going to flip red. Does a scenario where one of FF/ritoky is town and chez is mafia make sense? Though that also brings back the question, why would likely mafia LT nuke his scum buddy chez? I wonder if chez is like a traitor or something a mafia nuked him by accident without knowing lol.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 16:27 GMT
#2676
These gifs have just about made this game bearable, JJ
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 26 2015 16:31 GMT
#2677
Maybe Chez / LT are the last two scum. In which case, we can pop the champagne this evening.

What can I say, I believe in the power of positive thinking.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 26 2015 16:55 GMT
#2678
I think chez is mafia. But the great thing if he flips town is that ff is confirmed mafia and ritoky is almost confirmed mafia.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 26 2015 16:55 GMT
#2679
On August 27 2015 01:27 Fidei86 wrote:
These gifs have just about made this game bearable, JJ


Definitely a smurf.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
August 26 2015 16:56 GMT
#2680
I want to say Jat but I don't know if he'd smurf that many times.
Retired.
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