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Damdred
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Rels
France13467 Posts
really his posts last night changed my mind about him, pretty sure he's town | ||
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Breshke
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ObiWanShinobi
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JudgeJudy
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![[image loading]](http://31.media.tumblr.com/a4d14c2d08c7989edd056dfed98584bf/tumblr_nn53wa3PMP1suu3yio1_500.gif) On August 26 2015 23:55 Breshke wrote: JJ give me a list of people you are considering for mafia? It hasn't changed a ton since my last list at the start of today (or maybe it was right before the n2 deadline? I forget.) I think LT is probably going to flip mafia based on the red check, the inactivity, the pgo stuff, etc. If he flips town, then I'd need to re-evaluate the cop checks since they conflict with each other. At this point, I think I'd probably be more willing to lynch KSC for that scenario. chez would probably be mafia in a situation where LT is town. If LT flips mafia, I'd still likely go after KSC. The whole "my check wasn't important" then randomly a red check on LT, in combination with FF returning a "no check" makes the whole thing seem pretty sketchy. The most likely scenario is that he claimed a red check on LT who was going to die anyways and then wanted to town cred because he was pretty close to next on the pecking order anyways. I think four cops seems pretty unlikely as well. I'm not sure I've ever seen that many in a single game. Late, late game if KSC flips town and FF is still around shooting out checks without being roleblocked or shot then I'd assume he would be a good mafia candidate due to the unlikely 4th cop scenario. Ritoky I'm leaning null-mafia because of the whole "push the random lynch" stuff early on and the game. This one kinda comes with a processes of elimination since the ones below I'm more town on than anything. If LT/chez and one or both of ksc and ff flip mafia then the game is probably over by this point anyways. The one thing that worries me is that mafia probably has a roleblocker in a setup with all blues. Claiming the roleblock on HTS does strike me as odd though. I went back into his filter, thinking that he had called HTS one of his town reads, but in fact he was suspicious about HTS for a post towards the end of the cycle, which would line up with when the roleblock was submitted. That's the biggest reason I would have doubts, since claiming a rb on an obvious town player makes him look bad. That could be wifom, but I'm not sure. The scenario I'm considering is that he wanted town cred for revealing geript's qt is fake and claiming rb would be the way to show that HTS didnt get off a watcher result. Not sure if that makes sense though. Obi I thought was kinda town at the start of the game. I was comparing his town filters in the database against this one and things seemed rather similar. As mafia, I noticed he likes to randomly jump in the thread and ask people to make him talk about a certain subject. I know people mentioned that his anger looked fake or exaggerated, but he does tend to be an emotional player. I wanna say I remember something like that in a specific game, but I'll have to go back and see if I can find the example again. I wouldn't place him above geript, breshke, fidei, TT or rels, but I'd rather have him around instead of the others above. The town alignment checked players seem fine to me. The rayn lynches other than myself I haven't paid much attention to at this point. There is a scenario where rayn could have been a mafia driven bus for late game cred, but I think that is less likely since tube showed up at the last second to vote rels. It could be rels + tube + rayn in that situation, but I think rels has looked pretty townie. I plan to do a full re-read of each of the non-confirmed players, but I've only done one so far (fidei) and he seems town even if you take out the rayn stuff in my opinion. Where are you at breshke? On August 26 2015 23:52 Breshke wrote: So has jj claimed any role actions? Nope. Revealing my role benefits mafia more than town in my opinion. I'd be willing to claim it if we ever reached a mass claim situation (which I don't think we should do just yet), but there isn't a great reason to just throw it out randomly at this point. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
One thing: when/if LT flips mafia, chez is town for you ? | ||
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Rels
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JudgeJudy
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![[image loading]](http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-cats-war-nuke-886175.gif) On August 27 2015 00:52 Rels wrote: ^ it really aligns with what I think. Except the ritoky bit, I like ritoky more than you. One thing: when/if LT flips mafia, chez is town for you ? Unless there is a good explanation for why LT would nuke chez on day two (maybe LT flips with a fake nuke or something?), then yeah I think chez would be town. Who would you pick in place of ritoky then Rels? | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
But yeah, I can see that it would be better to sort out the whole Chez/FF/LT/KSC cluster**** first. It really sucks that town have had so many green players play so poorly - it has made the whole thing really much more difficult than it should have been. Fortunately, Rels has put us on his back a little bit :-) | ||
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JudgeJudy
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![[image loading]](http://www.xclusivetouch.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/barney-texting-gif-confused-name-forgot.gif) On August 27 2015 00:54 Rels wrote: Cause either Chez or FF is lying, so if Chez is town, he *knows* FF is not-town. But Chez called the possibility of FF being town when discussing with me earlier. I cannot see a town player forgetting something obvious like that. Could you elaborate on the part where town chez knows FF isn't town? I think I may have missed that part. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 27 2015 00:57 JudgeJudy wrote: Unless there is a good explanation for why LT would nuke chez on day two (maybe LT flips with a fake nuke or something?), then yeah I think chez would be town. Who would you pick in place of ritoky then Rels? Mafia team: LT KSC Then maybe: FF (is there is no explanation for the "no result" in LT's role) OWS (if there is one more mafia) ritoky (if Chezinu is actually town) Not-town: Chezinu | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 27 2015 00:59 JudgeJudy wrote: Could you elaborate on the part where town chez knows FF isn't town? I think I may have missed that part. On August 26 2015 21:05 Rels wrote: So yamato77. Wow wait a minute. FF checked WOS N1 and didn't get a PM 'cause WOS died. LOL So once again on of Chez and FF is lying. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 26 2015 21:26 Rels wrote: Alright lots of work for me to do this afternoon so won't be very active. For the US later, here are what I think about some people: LT is non-town, probably mafia: + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2015 18:23 Rels wrote: Lord Tolkien in the last 12 hours 1 LT promised some reads in the first post he came back but never gave them. Instead he spent hours talking about his abilities and defending himself. 2 LT claimed to check Damdred last night when it is an idiotic check. His explanation for that is in his last game, a townie fakeclaimed a 3P ... did he seriously believe Damdred was actually town. 3 LT being VT is not believable in this setup. 4 LT tried to explain the contradictory checks by saying FF got roleblocked, which is not the case. When corrected, he dropped the subject to talk about something else. In addition to the other stuff (3 posts wanting to check rayn, not nuking the 2nd town wagon, sheeping a vote on me with excuses to be semi AFK at deadline D2). @LT: Only you can explain the "no result" check of FF, so I suggest you make up a town role that returns "no result" to check really fast so I can laugh. Chezinu is non-town (juicy theory about dead player check PM!): + Show Spoiler + Only serious post is his list post which is non coherent with the game. He also didn't answer my interrogation. On August 26 2015 18:17 Rels wrote: WTF Chez How is his attitude green ? And how do you explain two contradictory checks ? Last post talking about Breshke before the list had him as mafia ? And after this post you attack him again ? Chez cannot possible be town. WTF too many not-town players in this game. On August 26 2015 21:05 Rels wrote: So yamato77. Wow wait a minute. FF checked WOS N1 and didn't get a PM 'cause WOS died. LOL So once again on of Chez and FF is lying. KSC may be non-town, LT's flip will give info: + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2015 18:05 Rels wrote: And this is sooo clever. KSC has to be rsoultin I agree. Maybe that makes a lot of sense. I actually think KSC is a mafia vig and LT a SK. Best course of action IMO is lynch LT (confirmed not town + clarifie some stuff) and nuke + ritoky roleblock KSC in the night. On August 26 2015 18:08 Rels wrote: Mm. That makes no sense with LT wanting to check rayn 3 times. On August 26 2015 18:10 Rels wrote: Whatever we have a roleblock and LT's alignment and role will give info on FF. Still thinking LT is the best lynch, but I think LT is mafia, and KSC is either mafia vig or SK. On August 26 2015 19:53 Rels wrote: So ksc did nothing except vote early on a mafia and checked people. Dunno how you can townread him while being suspicious of jj at the same time. But we ll have more info with the flip Leaving work so afk for more or less 1 hour. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 26 2015 21:56 Chezinu wrote: Breshke is obv green cause gives me anti-nuke and knows stuff. Calling Lord green was in hopes of somehow obtaining an anti-nuke from mafia in hopes of saving myself by pretending 3P. | ||
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JudgeJudy
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![[image loading]](http://media.giphy.com/media/NIJtQQFJ3tbgc/giphy.gif) Ah yeah, considering ritoky claims the roleblock on chez that means two people are refuting his actions unless it's FF + ritoky red and chez town, which doesn't make a ton of sense for them to double refute if chez wasn't going to flip red. Does a scenario where one of FF/ritoky is town and chez is mafia make sense? Though that also brings back the question, why would likely mafia LT nuke his scum buddy chez? I wonder if chez is like a traitor or something a mafia nuked him by accident without knowing lol. | ||
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Fidei86
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Fidei86
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What can I say, I believe in the power of positive thinking. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On August 27 2015 01:27 Fidei86 wrote: These gifs have just about made this game bearable, JJ Definitely a smurf. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
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