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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 25 2015 09:50 GMT
#2281
On August 25 2015 18:48 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:48 Rels wrote:
I hate that we have to ask Chez his check. Plus he didn't answer my question. As I say, no patience to play the interrogation game, you speak or you don't. Hope it's not a broken nuke going for him.

Yeah, I'm pretty much on this as well. Whatever his alignment, it's pretty clearly not town.

Not all town have the same win con!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 09:53 GMT
#2282
On August 25 2015 18:50 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:48 Fidei86 wrote:
On August 25 2015 18:48 Rels wrote:
I hate that we have to ask Chez his check. Plus he didn't answer my question. As I say, no patience to play the interrogation game, you speak or you don't. Hope it's not a broken nuke going for him.

Yeah, I'm pretty much on this as well. Whatever his alignment, it's pretty clearly not town.

Not all town have the same win con!

Just no. All town must have the primary win condition of, you know, winning v mafia. If you have secondary conditions or whatever, then you're choosing to prioritise yourself over the team, which means you're a shitty team mate. But I think it's 1,000,000% more likely that you're either some sort of random 3P role, or you're mafia. Either way, I care not for your excuses.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 09:56 GMT
#2283
On August 25 2015 18:49 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:46 Fidei86 wrote:
@Chez who did you check and what was the result?

I received a pm stating said person was 3P and was dead.

So you checked Yam? The same guy whose only contribution to the game was to beg people not to nuke you?

???

This game.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 09:57 GMT
#2284
On August 25 2015 18:50 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 18:45 Fidei86 wrote:
Checks
FF: WOS green N1, geript green N2, LT no result N2.
Bill Muray: Breshke green D2.
KSC: geript green N1, LT red N2.


Can anyone think of a mechanic that makes FF and KSC's checks on LT N2 compatible? FF can't have been roleblocked, because then he wouldn't get either check result. LT can't be jailed or unvisitable or whatever, because KSC claims to have a result. The whole issue of fake checks doesn't apply, since LT was 'no resulted'.

Am I missing something?

No. One of them is 99% mafia, and we will know which one after the flip.

Why do we lynch LT though, with that logic? I'm not sure that either result helps us work out FF's alignment. Sorry if I'm being dense ... :-\
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:01 GMT
#2285
Outside of check claims, I'm pretty sure LT is mafia.

If LT is mafia, FF is lying about obtaining a "no result" check, meaning is mafia trying to divert the lynch from LT to KSC.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 10:07 GMT
#2286
I'm not sure that follows though - the conflict is between KSC and FF. However LT flips, that conflict remains unresolved as far as I can see. Wouldn't we be better lynching FF?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:12 GMT
#2287
On August 25 2015 19:07 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm not sure that follows though - the conflict is between KSC and FF. However LT flips, that conflict remains unresolved as far as I can see. Wouldn't we be better lynching FF?

I don't understand why you say it is unresolved.
KSC claimed a red LT check. If LT is 3P, KSC is lying. If LT is town, he may be framed or KSC is lying.
FF claimed a "no result" check. If LT is town, FF is lying. If LT is mafia, FF is lying. If LT is 3P, FF tells the truth (could still be mafia).

So. If LT is:
Town: FF is lying for sure. Maybe KSC too.
3P: KSC is lying for sure.
Mafia: FF is lying for sure.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:28 GMT
#2288
On August 25 2015 18:41 Fidei86 wrote:
Did anyone think to ask FF why he checked geript after we already had a check from KSC? Doesn't that seem a bit of a waste to anyone? Wouldn't it be better for him to have checked KSC?

That is fucking true.
@FF
1 - can you talk to us about the logic of checking someone confirmed town by two people ?
2 - (2nd time) can you confirm you checked WOS green N1 ?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 10:32 GMT
#2289
On August 25 2015 19:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:07 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm not sure that follows though - the conflict is between KSC and FF. However LT flips, that conflict remains unresolved as far as I can see. Wouldn't we be better lynching FF?

I don't understand why you say it is unresolved.
KSC claimed a red LT check. If LT is 3P, KSC is lying. If LT is town, he may be framed or KSC is lying.
FF claimed a "no result" check. If LT is town, FF is lying. If LT is mafia, FF is lying. If LT is 3P, FF tells the truth (could still be mafia).

So. If LT is:
Town: FF is lying for sure. Maybe KSC too.
3P: KSC is lying for sure.
Mafia: FF is lying for sure.

Ah okay. The bit I was missing was the 3P returning no check. I thought you only got that with roleblocks, etc. Carry on.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 25 2015 10:33 GMT
#2290
1 i did not believe KSC had an alignment check in the first place.
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:38 GMT
#2291
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
1 i did not believe KSC had an alignment check in the first place.

Then why not check him to have 2 checks in 1 ?
Did you forget Damdred claimed a prot on geript, or did you not believe it ?
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
2 I didn't get a pm if that's what you are asking. If you are not, wos died and flipped green yes

Why didn't you check anyone N1 ?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 25 2015 10:45 GMT
#2292
I have to check the person I voted
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:46 GMT
#2293
OK makes sense.
What about:
On August 25 2015 19:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
1 i did not believe KSC had an alignment check in the first place.

Then why not check him to have 2 checks in 1 ?
Did you forget Damdred claimed a prot on geript, or did you not believe it ?

Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 25 2015 10:47 GMT
#2294
You are assuming I think a lot harder about stuff than I do
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
August 25 2015 10:48 GMT
#2295
it sure is almost 4am though, goodnight
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:51 GMT
#2296
On August 25 2015 19:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
You are assuming I think a lot harder about stuff than I do

So you thought KSC was lying.
But you didn't think anything about Damdred.
And you didn't think about checking KSC to check both KSC and geript.
Willing to lynch you tomorrow even if LT is 3P. No mafia rolecap flipped yet.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 10:52 GMT
#2297
The issue I have with this game is that there are only four people left (me, Rels, JJ and TT) that actually seem to be playing the game from a townie perspective. Literally everyone else clearly has some sort of anti-town or town-indifferent agenda.

I'm not sure if it makes the game better or worse, but it makes it a million times more annoying.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:53 GMT
#2298
On August 25 2015 19:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
it sure is almost 4am though, goodnight

You answered one question out of 3. You answered the only question easy to answer.
You took the time to answer one question out of three, but didn't answer me anything about Damdred.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
August 25 2015 10:54 GMT
#2299
On August 25 2015 19:51 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2015 19:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
You are assuming I think a lot harder about stuff than I do

So you thought KSC was lying.
But you didn't think anything about Damdred.
And you didn't think about checking KSC to check both KSC and geript.
Willing to lynch you tomorrow even if LT is 3P. No mafia rolecap flipped yet.

This makes no sense. If you think KSC is lying you check KSC every time.

I would rather lynch FF than LT, but I'm happy to sheep the town circle, if you all are set on LT.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 25 2015 10:55 GMT
#2300
Beginning to think fidei is right and we need to lynch FF regardless.
OWS when you read this: can you nuke LT or FF ? We'll lynch the other.
And we'll lynch tomorrow KSC if LT is not mafia.
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