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On August 16 2015 09:17 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 09:08 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2015 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 16 2015 05:00 Trfel wrote:
The way that he moved his suspicions away from Hopeless1der and onto deconduo is suspicious by itself, but then he suggested a non-Hopeless1der storm vote (Palmar) and afk'd basically as soon as Hopeless1der flipped mafia. If he were mafia here, the Hopeless1der flip basically gives him away and I can definitely see him losing his motivation to play.
guys just read this. meh meh meh... Please explain? Of course prplhz didn't press the idea of a non-Hopeless1der storm vote, of course he didn't seriously push it, and of course doing so doesn't incriminate him. The fact that prplhz didn't lynch Hopeless1der on Day 1 and seemed contradictory about that doesn't necessarily mean that he is scum, though it does look bad. However, from a mafia perspective, these things feel far, far worse than they look from a town perspective. I would expect prplhz to feel far worse than he looks to us, and this is likely to cause him to give up and afk. And the only post he's made this entire phase that can possibly be seen as doing something was made about one minute ago. Chezinu and prplhz both look pretty bad to me, Artanis is possibly mafia if either of the other two are town. So you liked my argument for Chez and Prpl not being scum together. Then you think they're both scum. Then you think in the case of one of them not being scum, I'm scum. What? Your argument was flawed. I liked it initially, but it's possible that prplhz simply had a little more motivation than expected, or that he's mafia with someone else (like you). They both seem scummy, and I don't see much reason to think that they aren't scum together.
So you think chezinu, with fully being able to choose a train with no repercussions, chose to bus his teammate instead of voting for you?
If prpl is mafia I don't see how chezinu can be if he keeps his vote on prpl.
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On August 16 2015 09:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 09:17 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 09:08 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2015 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 16 2015 05:00 Trfel wrote:
The way that he moved his suspicions away from Hopeless1der and onto deconduo is suspicious by itself, but then he suggested a non-Hopeless1der storm vote (Palmar) and afk'd basically as soon as Hopeless1der flipped mafia. If he were mafia here, the Hopeless1der flip basically gives him away and I can definitely see him losing his motivation to play.
guys just read this. meh meh meh... Please explain? Of course prplhz didn't press the idea of a non-Hopeless1der storm vote, of course he didn't seriously push it, and of course doing so doesn't incriminate him. The fact that prplhz didn't lynch Hopeless1der on Day 1 and seemed contradictory about that doesn't necessarily mean that he is scum, though it does look bad. However, from a mafia perspective, these things feel far, far worse than they look from a town perspective. I would expect prplhz to feel far worse than he looks to us, and this is likely to cause him to give up and afk. And the only post he's made this entire phase that can possibly be seen as doing something was made about one minute ago. Chezinu and prplhz both look pretty bad to me, Artanis is possibly mafia if either of the other two are town. So you liked my argument for Chez and Prpl not being scum together. Then you think they're both scum. Then you think in the case of one of them not being scum, I'm scum. What? Your argument was flawed. I liked it initially, but it's possible that prplhz simply had a little more motivation than expected, or that he's mafia with someone else (like you). They both seem scummy, and I don't see much reason to think that they aren't scum together. I can't imagine that you wouldn't have thought of the argument of prplhz simply having a bit more motivation than expected as you read the argument unless you were not using any critical thinking whatsoever. The argument made more sense at the time, when prplhz was putting in that effort. That was very plausible and the most believable explanation.
Due to the effort dropping off, it makes more sense that he simply had more motivation and then lost it when Hopeless1der flipped. This makes much more sense considering how much he tied himself to Hopeless1der and how useless/not present he's been today.
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On August 16 2015 09:21 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 09:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 09:17 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 09:08 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2015 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 16 2015 05:00 Trfel wrote:
The way that he moved his suspicions away from Hopeless1der and onto deconduo is suspicious by itself, but then he suggested a non-Hopeless1der storm vote (Palmar) and afk'd basically as soon as Hopeless1der flipped mafia. If he were mafia here, the Hopeless1der flip basically gives him away and I can definitely see him losing his motivation to play.
guys just read this. meh meh meh... Please explain? Of course prplhz didn't press the idea of a non-Hopeless1der storm vote, of course he didn't seriously push it, and of course doing so doesn't incriminate him. The fact that prplhz didn't lynch Hopeless1der on Day 1 and seemed contradictory about that doesn't necessarily mean that he is scum, though it does look bad. However, from a mafia perspective, these things feel far, far worse than they look from a town perspective. I would expect prplhz to feel far worse than he looks to us, and this is likely to cause him to give up and afk. And the only post he's made this entire phase that can possibly be seen as doing something was made about one minute ago. Chezinu and prplhz both look pretty bad to me, Artanis is possibly mafia if either of the other two are town. So you liked my argument for Chez and Prpl not being scum together. Then you think they're both scum. Then you think in the case of one of them not being scum, I'm scum. What? Your argument was flawed. I liked it initially, but it's possible that prplhz simply had a little more motivation than expected, or that he's mafia with someone else (like you). They both seem scummy, and I don't see much reason to think that they aren't scum together. I can't imagine that you wouldn't have thought of the argument of prplhz simply having a bit more motivation than expected as you read the argument unless you were not using any critical thinking whatsoever. The argument made more sense at the time, when prplhz was putting in that effort. That was very plausible and the most believable explanation. Due to the effort dropping off, it makes more sense that he simply had more motivation and then lost it when Hopeless1der flipped. This makes much more sense considering how much he tied himself to Hopeless1der and how useless/not present he's been today.
You have been similarily useless/not present today though. Also, I don't think there was ever a chance Hopeless wasn't getting stormed last night and I'm pretty sure prplhz knew that so I don't really buy that as an explanation.
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On August 16 2015 09:20 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 09:17 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 09:08 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2015 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 16 2015 05:00 Trfel wrote:
The way that he moved his suspicions away from Hopeless1der and onto deconduo is suspicious by itself, but then he suggested a non-Hopeless1der storm vote (Palmar) and afk'd basically as soon as Hopeless1der flipped mafia. If he were mafia here, the Hopeless1der flip basically gives him away and I can definitely see him losing his motivation to play.
guys just read this. meh meh meh... Please explain? Of course prplhz didn't press the idea of a non-Hopeless1der storm vote, of course he didn't seriously push it, and of course doing so doesn't incriminate him. The fact that prplhz didn't lynch Hopeless1der on Day 1 and seemed contradictory about that doesn't necessarily mean that he is scum, though it does look bad. However, from a mafia perspective, these things feel far, far worse than they look from a town perspective. I would expect prplhz to feel far worse than he looks to us, and this is likely to cause him to give up and afk. And the only post he's made this entire phase that can possibly be seen as doing something was made about one minute ago. Chezinu and prplhz both look pretty bad to me, Artanis is possibly mafia if either of the other two are town. So you liked my argument for Chez and Prpl not being scum together. Then you think they're both scum. Then you think in the case of one of them not being scum, I'm scum. What? Your argument was flawed. I liked it initially, but it's possible that prplhz simply had a little more motivation than expected, or that he's mafia with someone else (like you). They both seem scummy, and I don't see much reason to think that they aren't scum together. So you think chezinu, with fully being able to choose a train with no repercussions, chose to bus his teammate instead of voting for you? If prpl is mafia I don't see how chezinu can be if he keeps his vote on prpl. On August 16 2015 05:02 geript wrote:
Vote Count
Chezinu (1): ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, prplhz, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred, Trfel
Trfel (3): raynpelikoneet, prplhz, Artanis[Xp], Damdred, rsoultin
rsoultin (0): Artanis[Xp]
prplhz (4): Damdred, Artanis[Xp], ruXxar, Trfel
Not Voting (2): Chezinu, Vivax
Currently prplhz is set to be lynched.
Day 2 ends on August 16 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in [/s][/s]Here's the vote count right before he switched. This looks strongly like prplhz will be lynched, thus if both prplhz and Chezinu are mafia I would expect Chezinu to bus here (it's not like he has much thread presence to work with).
He hasn't posted in the past three hours. I don't see your point.
I need to leave, I doubt I will be back for the lynch.
In case I die, look into prplhz, Chezinu, and Artanis.
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i go to bed.
please lynch trfel.
prplhz is not mafia.
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On August 16 2015 09:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 09:21 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2015 09:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 09:17 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On August 16 2015 09:08 Trfel wrote:On August 16 2015 05:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 16 2015 05:00 Trfel wrote:
The way that he moved his suspicions away from Hopeless1der and onto deconduo is suspicious by itself, but then he suggested a non-Hopeless1der storm vote (Palmar) and afk'd basically as soon as Hopeless1der flipped mafia. If he were mafia here, the Hopeless1der flip basically gives him away and I can definitely see him losing his motivation to play.
guys just read this. meh meh meh... Please explain? Of course prplhz didn't press the idea of a non-Hopeless1der storm vote, of course he didn't seriously push it, and of course doing so doesn't incriminate him. The fact that prplhz didn't lynch Hopeless1der on Day 1 and seemed contradictory about that doesn't necessarily mean that he is scum, though it does look bad. However, from a mafia perspective, these things feel far, far worse than they look from a town perspective. I would expect prplhz to feel far worse than he looks to us, and this is likely to cause him to give up and afk. And the only post he's made this entire phase that can possibly be seen as doing something was made about one minute ago. Chezinu and prplhz both look pretty bad to me, Artanis is possibly mafia if either of the other two are town. So you liked my argument for Chez and Prpl not being scum together. Then you think they're both scum. Then you think in the case of one of them not being scum, I'm scum. What? Your argument was flawed. I liked it initially, but it's possible that prplhz simply had a little more motivation than expected, or that he's mafia with someone else (like you). They both seem scummy, and I don't see much reason to think that they aren't scum together. I can't imagine that you wouldn't have thought of the argument of prplhz simply having a bit more motivation than expected as you read the argument unless you were not using any critical thinking whatsoever. The argument made more sense at the time, when prplhz was putting in that effort. That was very plausible and the most believable explanation. Due to the effort dropping off, it makes more sense that he simply had more motivation and then lost it when Hopeless1der flipped. This makes much more sense considering how much he tied himself to Hopeless1der and how useless/not present he's been today. You have been similarily useless/not present today though. Also, I don't think there was ever a chance Hopeless wasn't getting stormed last night and I'm pretty sure prplhz knew that so I don't really buy that as an explanation. And why not prod and see?
And I have been helpful, I've been providing reads and narrowing down my options. I'm sorry I wasn't there for much of Night 1 and early Day 2, and I didn't feel like repeating things that were already said. It also hurts that I was online for most times that no one else was there; there was no one to talk with, discuss with, or work with. So I have been making my reads largely on my own.
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dunno i survived last game as scum even though one of my scum mates was lynched d1
just do what rayn says he was right d1?
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I'm off to bed. Honestly, lynch whomever between prplhz and Trfel, I really dunno.
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On August 16 2015 09:28 prplhz wrote:
dunno i survived last game as scum even though one of my scum mates was lynched d1
just do what rayn says he was right d1?
And I wasn't?
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On August 16 2015 09:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm off to bed. Honestly, lynch whomever between prplhz and Trfel, I really dunno.
I wish we could just put chez, trfel and prpl in a cage and let them fight it out.
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On August 16 2015 09:34 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 09:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm off to bed. Honestly, lynch whomever between prplhz and Trfel, I really dunno. I wish we could just put chez, trfel and prpl in a cage and let them fight it out.
Do I get guns?
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Comparing the people on the wrong wagon yesterday I assume that Trfel is the better lynch here. I'll have to hope hopeless wasn't bussed for this, but if I look at the last votes I get an idea of who I don't want to be with on a wagon.
So I'm voting Trfel.
On August 13 2015 11:00 geript wrote:
Final Vote Count
Trfel (0): Chezinu, VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der (4): raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, Vivax, Palmar
ruXxar (0): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Vivax, Palmar
VisceraEyes (1): Artanis[XP], deconduo
deconduo (8): VisceraEyes, rsoultin, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, prplhz, Hopeless1der, Palmar, Trfel, Chezinu, Damdred
Damdred (0): Palmar, prplhz, Vivax
Chezinu (0): prplhz
Not Voting (0):
Currently deconduo is set to be lynched.
Day 1 ends on August 12 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in
On August 16 2015 09:07 geript wrote:
Vote Count
Chezinu (0): ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, prplhz, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred, Trfel
Trfel (4): raynpelikoneet, prplhz, Artanis[Xp], Damdred, rsoultin, Artanis[Xp], Palmar
rsoultin (0): Artanis[Xp]
prplhz (5): Damdred, Artanis[Xp], ruXxaar, Trfel, Chezinu, rsoultin
Not Voting (1): Vivax
Currently prplhz is set to be lynched.
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On August 13 2015 09:45 Trfel wrote:
##vote deconduo
On August 13 2015 10:55 Damdred wrote:
##vote deconduo
On August 13 2015 09:56 Chezinu wrote:
##vote deconduo
[B]On August 13 2015 09:53 geript wrote:
Vote Count
Trfel (1): Chezinu, VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der (4): raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, Vivax, Palmar
ruXxar (0): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Vivax, Palmar
VisceraEyes (1): Artanis[XP], deconduo
deconduo (6): VisceraEyes, rsoultin, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, prplhz, Hopeless1der, Palmar, Trfel
Damdred (0): Palmar, prplhz, Vivax
Chezinu (0): prplhz
Not Voting (1): Damdred
[blue]Currently deconduo is set to be lynched.
Day 1 ends on August 12 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in
bah got this into the voting thread
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On August 16 2015 09:35 Vivax wrote:Comparing the people on the wrong wagon yesterday I assume that Trfel is the better lynch here. I'll have to hope hopeless wasn't bussed for this, but if I look at the last votes I get an idea of who I don't want to be with on a wagon. So I'm voting Trfel. Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 11:00 geript wrote:
Final Vote Count
Trfel (0): Chezinu, VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der (4): raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, Vivax, Palmar
ruXxar (0): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Vivax, Palmar
VisceraEyes (1): Artanis[XP], deconduo
deconduo (8): VisceraEyes, rsoultin, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, prplhz, Hopeless1der, Palmar, Trfel, Chezinu, Damdred
Damdred (0): Palmar, prplhz, Vivax
Chezinu (0): prplhz
Not Voting (0):
Currently deconduo is set to be lynched.
Day 1 ends on August 12 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in
Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 09:07 geript wrote:
Vote Count
Chezinu (0): ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, prplhz, Artanis[Xp], Palmar, rsoultin, Damdred, Trfel
Trfel (4): raynpelikoneet, prplhz, Artanis[Xp], Damdred, rsoultin, Artanis[Xp], Palmar
rsoultin (0): Artanis[Xp]
prplhz (5): Damdred, Artanis[Xp], ruXxaar, Trfel, Chezinu, rsoultin
Not Voting (1): Vivax
Currently prplhz is set to be lynched.
Show nested quote +[B]On August 13 2015 09:53 geript wrote:
Vote Count
Trfel (1): Chezinu, VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der (4): raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, Vivax, Palmar
ruXxar (0): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Vivax, Palmar
VisceraEyes (1): Artanis[XP], deconduo
deconduo (6): VisceraEyes, rsoultin, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, prplhz, Hopeless1der, Palmar, Trfel
Damdred (0): Palmar, prplhz, Vivax
Chezinu (0): prplhz
Not Voting (1): Damdred
[blue]Currently deconduo is set to be lynched.
Day 1 ends on August 12 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in
bah got this into the voting thread [/s][/s]
Equal votes == nolynch.
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It's a good point about the wagon from yesterday on hopeless though...
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Hmm.. so I need to unvote right?
Should we do the Truffle Shuffle?
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Vivax do you prefer a no-lynch over lynching prpl?
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On August 16 2015 09:39 ruXxar wrote:
Vivax do you prefer a no-lynch over lynching prpl?
we have and hour and 20 minutes and Chezinu is in the game.
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On August 16 2015 09:39 ruXxar wrote:
Vivax do you prefer a no-lynch over lynching prpl?
It's just better to lynch trfel, a bit of a statistical argument given most people who were wrong yesterday are on prpl today, and three were also the last to vote after hopeless made the votes 5 to 4 in his favour by voting for decon.
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What is better... a green troll check or... an almost valid Chezinu Rule?
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On August 16 2015 09:42 Chezinu wrote:
What is better... a green troll check or... an almost valid Chezinu Rule?
Why aren't you following the chezinu rule? Trfel was guilty of it!
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