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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
August 13 2015 14:06 GMT
#1101
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


Yeah rso has a preference for low hanging fruit this game.

Except now she doesn't try to pick hopeless based on something Damdred said.

Checking hopeless games properly without using the given lense would have revealed to her that hopeless just plays differently across games, and it seems too gullible/unbelievable to me she would use such a simple heuristic to make her decision.

Can't get rid of the feeling she put hopeless into her scumreads for convenience, and removed him from them for convenience.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:07 GMT
#1102
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
August 13 2015 14:08 GMT
#1103
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp


I tunneled Ruxxar most of the day and voted with him, so how is that an argument?
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:09 GMT
#1104
On August 13 2015 23:06 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


Yeah rso has a preference for low hanging fruit this game.

Except now she doesn't try to pick hopeless based on something Damdred said.

Checking hopeless games properly without using the given lense would have revealed to her that hopeless just plays differently across games, and it seems too gullible/unbelievable to me she would use such a simple heuristic to make her decision.

Can't get rid of the feeling she put hopeless into her scumreads for convenience, and removed him from them for convenience.


okay so all of you think chez is town? why? ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:09 GMT
#1105
On August 13 2015 23:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp


I tunneled Ruxxar most of the day and voted with him, so how is that an argument?


that wasn't your only read, now was it, dumbass?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 13 2015 14:11 GMT
#1106
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp

have you never played with chez before or something
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:12 GMT
#1107
On August 13 2015 23:11 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp

have you never played with chez before or something


just once in ippo, i think

so basically you're saying there's no possible way to read chez, ever? the same way you people told me there's no way to read slam? lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:14 GMT
#1108
tell me how even chez can only have one read all game and then sheeps that scumread onto a wagon when the votes are that close?

what, is he clinically retarded? plays with a magic 8 ball?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:15 GMT
#1109
maybe he does black magic and reads chicken intestines! \o/
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 13 2015 14:16 GMT
#1110
On August 13 2015 23:12 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:11 prplhz wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp

have you never played with chez before or something


just once in ippo, i think

so basically you're saying there's no possible way to read chez, ever? the same way you people told me there's no way to read slam? lol ><

i'm saying it's very difficult to read chez and him changing his opinion doesn't justify a clear scum read. it doesn't justify anything.

+ Show Spoiler +
can you read slam?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:17 GMT
#1111
>> if that's the case someone should probably tell him that his divination isn't working so well

any more stupid y'all would like to throw my way when i'm trying to review the game? i'm just on the edge of my seat with excitement, really
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:18 GMT
#1112
On August 13 2015 23:16 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:12 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:11 prplhz wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp

have you never played with chez before or something


just once in ippo, i think

so basically you're saying there's no possible way to read chez, ever? the same way you people told me there's no way to read slam? lol ><

i'm saying it's very difficult to read chez and him changing his opinion doesn't justify a clear scum read. it doesn't justify anything.

+ Show Spoiler +
can you read slam?


-_- not perfectly, but better than most, prp
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
August 13 2015 14:18 GMT
#1113
On August 13 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:08 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp


I tunneled Ruxxar most of the day and voted with him, so how is that an argument?


that wasn't your only read, now was it, dumbass?


Okay, and what about VE?

Only read Trfel, votes with him based on what you said.

Yet you feel more comfortable going after Chez, I can figure out why you're blind on the Viscera eye.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:20 GMT
#1114
On August 13 2015 23:18 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:08 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:
On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?

you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.

this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.


so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp


I tunneled Ruxxar most of the day and voted with him, so how is that an argument?


that wasn't your only read, now was it, dumbass?


Okay, and what about VE?

Only read Trfel, votes with him based on what you said.

Yet you feel more comfortable going after Chez, I can figure out why you're blind on the Viscera eye.


i'll review VE

but i'm pretty sure you're already wrong because i'm pretty sure he was scumreading condor so maybe you should review your facts, ye?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:22 GMT
#1115
On August 12 2015 13:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo I changed my mind.

##Unvote
##Vote: deconduo


His read on me was way out of left field, based on a throwaway comment in my opening post. It would have been fine if left at that, but he actually goes on to try and defend his laughable reasoning. He's mafia.


yeah

review your facts, viva -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
August 13 2015 14:24 GMT
#1116
I'm not reviewing anything, I think VE is mafia and you are mafia, you can split hairs all you want but making your argument used on somebody like Chez so narrow and then deflecting the accusation that other people have been doing the same with some little deviations from what Chez did, who has the benefit of being chez, is ridiculous.

So far all you've been pushing are literal lynch baits. VE's switch to hopeless didn't even make sense at all considering the post you quoted.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:28 GMT
#1117
On August 13 2015 23:24 Vivax wrote:
I'm not reviewing anything, I think VE is mafia and you are mafia, you can split hairs all you want but making your argument used on somebody like Chez so narrow and then deflecting the accusation that other people have been doing the same with some little deviations from what Chez did, who has the benefit of being chez, is ridiculous.

So far all you've been pushing are literal lynch baits. VE's switch to hopeless didn't even make sense at all considering the post you quoted.


okay, viva

you're so correct, viva

scum is always the most prominent (what ve what?) players, viva

i never play by poe at all, viva

you're just the best player in existence, viva

no need to ever check yourself or actually make sure what you think is really correct, viva

-hands viva the king of town crown-

someone like chez? if you can show me chez pulling this shit as town then i'll let it go. i'm sorry that i don't buy he's completely worthless as a player ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 13 2015 14:32 GMT
#1118
btw, you may want to review the definition of "low-hanging fruit"

chez is about as "low-hanging fruit" as palmar is

see you later, scrubs
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 13 2015 14:35 GMT
#1119
On August 13 2015 06:08 Chezinu wrote:
I tried brainstorming alternative candidates but my mind was a bit cloudy.

this was 4 hours before he changed his vote to decon.

indicates that he was thinking about other candidates (than hopeless), that he was considering not tunneling trfel to oblivion.

people are allowed to change their opinion on d1 especially people who are sort of nuts.

no?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22140 Posts
August 13 2015 14:39 GMT
#1120
I look forward to seeing who you want to lynch tomorrow rso.

On VE:

On August 12 2015 13:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo I changed my mind.

##Unvote
##Vote: deconduo


His read on me was way out of left field, based on a throwaway comment in my opening post. It would have been fine if left at that, but he actually goes on to try and defend his laughable reasoning. He's mafia.


On August 13 2015 06:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm okay with a Hopeless lynch.

##Unvote
##Vote: Hopeless1der


And then he just changes opinion again based on what rso digs up regarding hopeless having reads or not?

This isn't town VE. He can drive D1 lynches and he is more confident about his reads (I remember Guardians when he was all over Artanis for cultivating a lynch on him) , but in this case all he did was bounce around and act like rayn's opinion meant something.

Guardians filter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=VisceraEyes&page=3

The feeling he simply doesn't care about his own opinion after he acts like he found scum is mafiaish.
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