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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 23:59:27
August 12 2015 23:56 GMT
#921
Vote Count

Trfel (1): Chezinu, VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der (4): raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, ruXxar, raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, Vivax, Palmar
ruXxar (0): raynpelikoneet, Vivax, Vivax, Palmar
VisceraEyes (1): Artanis[XP], deconduo
deconduo (5): VisceraEyes, rsoultin, Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, prplhz, Hopeless1der, Palmar
Damdred (0): Palmar, prplhz, Vivax
Chezinu (0): prplhz

Not Voting (2): Trfel, Damdred,

Currently deconduo is set to be lynched.
Day 1 ends on
August 12 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 12 2015 23:58 GMT
#922
That's like the shittiest vote count I have seen.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 13 2015 00:00 GMT
#923
I'm really stoned ok
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
August 13 2015 00:02 GMT
#924
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22396 Posts
August 13 2015 00:03 GMT
#925
On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless.


The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 13 2015 00:05 GMT
#926
On August 13 2015 04:57 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 03:11 Trfel wrote:
ruXxar
In addition to the many inconsistencies in his play, ruXxar seems unwilling to interact with people and adjust his reads when presented with new information. He doesn't seem at all interested in asking questions to gain information. I don't see him putting effort into this game, pushing his reads, or using critical thinking.


I feel like this is a misrepresentation of my play.
In my opinion I've been interacting a lot, and have been adjusting reads and trying to consider different viewpoints.
I've been asking a decent amount of questions, even though some people refuse to answer.
I've also been pushing my reads which you can clearly see from the way the thread has been evolving.

The only thing here i agree with is that my critical thinking is not the sharpest.
I've already demonstrated using examples and quotes. Please show me counter-examples and/or why my examples are wrong.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
August 13 2015 00:06 GMT
#927
On August 13 2015 09:03 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless.


The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one.

So despite finding things you dislike in Deconduo's filter and not really doing so for Hopeless, you still prefer a Hopeless lynch because Deconduo is more likely to reveal his alignment later?

The way you phrase it, it kinda sounds like you do think Decon is slightly more likely to flip scum than hopeless.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22396 Posts
August 13 2015 00:08 GMT
#928
On August 13 2015 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 09:03 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless.


The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one.

So despite finding things you dislike in Deconduo's filter and not really doing so for Hopeless, you still prefer a Hopeless lynch because Deconduo is more likely to reveal his alignment later?

The way you phrase it, it kinda sounds like you do think Decon is slightly more likely to flip scum than hopeless.


I won't change my decision. If you wanted to entrap me in something you are free to show off the catch.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
August 13 2015 00:09 GMT
#929
On August 13 2015 09:08 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:03 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless.


The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one.

So despite finding things you dislike in Deconduo's filter and not really doing so for Hopeless, you still prefer a Hopeless lynch because Deconduo is more likely to reveal his alignment later?

The way you phrase it, it kinda sounds like you do think Decon is slightly more likely to flip scum than hopeless.


I won't change my decision. If you wanted to entrap me in something you are free to show off the catch.

I'm not trying to entrap you into anything. I'm asking you if you think Deconduo is more likely to flip scum than Hopeless.

If the answer is no, then I presume the explanations Deconduo gave for his posts were satisfactory?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 13 2015 00:10 GMT
#930
Hi, I'll probably just do the scummy thing and vote condor here and sheep thread sentiment mwha
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22396 Posts
August 13 2015 00:12 GMT
#931
On August 13 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 09:08 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:03 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless.


The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one.

So despite finding things you dislike in Deconduo's filter and not really doing so for Hopeless, you still prefer a Hopeless lynch because Deconduo is more likely to reveal his alignment later?

The way you phrase it, it kinda sounds like you do think Decon is slightly more likely to flip scum than hopeless.


I won't change my decision. If you wanted to entrap me in something you are free to show off the catch.

I'm not trying to entrap you into anything. I'm asking you if you think Deconduo is more likely to flip scum than Hopeless.

If the answer is no, then I presume the explanations Deconduo gave for his posts were satisfactory?


I didn't even take into consideration precisely what both of them did. I'm using shallow reasoning to choose between shallow options. Means whatever posts you are alluding to, I don't even care about them cause both of them feel like premature lynches.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 13 2015 00:12 GMT
#932
But I feel sorta guilty about getting a bit upset and not playing atm honestly. So lets play

hopeless are you here
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
August 13 2015 00:13 GMT
#933
On August 13 2015 09:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:08 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:03 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless.


The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one.

So despite finding things you dislike in Deconduo's filter and not really doing so for Hopeless, you still prefer a Hopeless lynch because Deconduo is more likely to reveal his alignment later?

The way you phrase it, it kinda sounds like you do think Decon is slightly more likely to flip scum than hopeless.


I won't change my decision. If you wanted to entrap me in something you are free to show off the catch.

I'm not trying to entrap you into anything. I'm asking you if you think Deconduo is more likely to flip scum than Hopeless.

If the answer is no, then I presume the explanations Deconduo gave for his posts were satisfactory?


I didn't even take into consideration precisely what both of them did. I'm using shallow reasoning to choose between shallow options. Means whatever posts you are alluding to, I don't even care about them cause both of them feel like premature lynches.

I don't understand why you wouldn't use all the information you have available to try and choose the person most likely to be scum. It sounds like you're just being lazy.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 13 2015 00:14 GMT
#934
On August 13 2015 09:12 Damdred wrote:
But I feel sorta guilty about getting a bit upset and not playing atm honestly. So lets play

hopeless are you here

Hi
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 13 2015 00:14 GMT
#935
Btw everyone in pretty sure palmar is pretty sure to be town in this situation I think. That's subject to change but its there
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 13 2015 00:15 GMT
#936
On August 13 2015 09:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 09:12 Damdred wrote:
But I feel sorta guilty about getting a bit upset and not playing atm honestly. So lets play

hopeless are you here

Hi

how much of the thread have you read
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 13 2015 00:16 GMT
#937
effectively all of it, rereading because i went back a bunch to try and understand wtf ruxxar did when I peaced out last time.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22396 Posts
August 13 2015 00:17 GMT
#938
On August 13 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 09:12 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:08 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:03 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless.


The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one.

So despite finding things you dislike in Deconduo's filter and not really doing so for Hopeless, you still prefer a Hopeless lynch because Deconduo is more likely to reveal his alignment later?

The way you phrase it, it kinda sounds like you do think Decon is slightly more likely to flip scum than hopeless.


I won't change my decision. If you wanted to entrap me in something you are free to show off the catch.

I'm not trying to entrap you into anything. I'm asking you if you think Deconduo is more likely to flip scum than Hopeless.

If the answer is no, then I presume the explanations Deconduo gave for his posts were satisfactory?


I didn't even take into consideration precisely what both of them did. I'm using shallow reasoning to choose between shallow options. Means whatever posts you are alluding to, I don't even care about them cause both of them feel like premature lynches.

I don't understand why you wouldn't use all the information you have available to try and choose the person most likely to be scum. It sounds like you're just being lazy.


I am, cause these are not my favourite lynches. Spent all day on my lynch and I'm not getting it, so I don't have to explain to you why I pick one over the other with you suggesting I should have deeper reasons for my choice when I really didn't.

That's the entrapment: You ask of me if deconduo's posts are fine for me now as if it meant something for my choice when I have never even taken his posts into consideration. I've read through both of them and decided for myself that I would prefer another lynch, but I can't get it so I'll find a reason that affects the future game (how active I expect them to be). If I had a reason for one of them being mafia then I would use that and not this practical decision.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
August 13 2015 00:20 GMT
#939
On August 13 2015 09:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:12 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:08 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:03 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 09:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax I don't understand why you're voting Hope1ess over deconduo. From your filter you've mentioned you mentioned something about how you don't think he's bussing? And you've sort of implied you think Hopeless might be town. Furthermore you've also prodded Deconduo on a few things which you didn't like, which you didn't do for Hopeless.


The things in my filter weren't reason enough for me to go after one of them, confident that he is scum. I'm just being pragmatic and removing the less informative of the two first, since I'm forced to choose one.

So despite finding things you dislike in Deconduo's filter and not really doing so for Hopeless, you still prefer a Hopeless lynch because Deconduo is more likely to reveal his alignment later?

The way you phrase it, it kinda sounds like you do think Decon is slightly more likely to flip scum than hopeless.


I won't change my decision. If you wanted to entrap me in something you are free to show off the catch.

I'm not trying to entrap you into anything. I'm asking you if you think Deconduo is more likely to flip scum than Hopeless.

If the answer is no, then I presume the explanations Deconduo gave for his posts were satisfactory?


I didn't even take into consideration precisely what both of them did. I'm using shallow reasoning to choose between shallow options. Means whatever posts you are alluding to, I don't even care about them cause both of them feel like premature lynches.

I don't understand why you wouldn't use all the information you have available to try and choose the person most likely to be scum. It sounds like you're just being lazy.


I am, cause these are not my favourite lynches. Spent all day on my lynch and I'm not getting it, so I don't have to explain to you why I pick one over the other with you suggesting I should have deeper reasons for my choice when I really didn't.

That's the entrapment: You ask of me if deconduo's posts are fine for me now as if it meant something for my choice when I have never even taken his posts into consideration. I've read through both of them and decided for myself that I would prefer another lynch, but I can't get it so I'll find a reason that affects the future game (how active I expect them to be). If I had a reason for one of them being mafia then I would use that and not this practical decision.

Look, it's pretty simple. Town wants to lynch mafia. Even if you didn't get your preferred lynch, you should still try to get the lynch that is most likely to get scum. I don't understand why you're trying to resist doing that in favour of some arbitrary decision based on information when there already is information to work with.

Anyway, I'm off to bed.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
August 13 2015 00:21 GMT
#940
Hopeless1der, do you have any thoughts to share at all?
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