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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 12 2015 19:18 GMT
#661
meh still not lynching ruxx -_-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 12 2015 19:23 GMT
#662
i need a post i can sheep
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2015 19:28 GMT
#663
This is the post to sheep.

I'm confused who I want to lynch though.

I kinda feel like when I afk a massive lynch will land on me with how the votes are spread out plus mild accusation.

Rs talk to me
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2015 19:32 GMT
#664
then lynch hopeless.
why cant any of you read anything.
this game is so bad.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 12 2015 19:33 GMT
#665
i still want to lynch between hopeless/prp/condor?

but mostly i don't want to lynch ruxx lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 12 2015 19:36 GMT
#666
I've read everything and I'll probably vote hope with my three town reads rayn rux and RS.

Its a tough day one because I have a group of four or five id lynch into but none of them are trying to be towny ish
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 12 2015 19:36 GMT
#667
isn't hopeless the guy who never does anything d1?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2015 19:37 GMT
#668
On August 13 2015 04:36 prplhz wrote:
isn't hopeless the guy who never does anything d1?

no
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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 12 2015 19:37 GMT
#669
except he's not making any reads at all...he usually at least does that ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2015 19:38 GMT
#670
then lynch hopeless.
why cant any of you read anything.
this game is so bad.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2015 19:39 GMT
#671
if ruxxar turns out to be mafia in this game i have a lot to talk about with certain ppl.
if ruxxar turns out to be town in this game i will just vig him whenever i have a chance because he is too bad.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 12 2015 19:41 GMT
#672
On August 13 2015 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
then lynch hopeless.
why cant any of you read anything.
this game is so bad.


Do you have a case on hopeless? I had a quick look through your filter and didn't see anything.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 12 2015 19:42 GMT
#673
On August 13 2015 01:23 Vivax wrote:
Ruxxar why isn't Damdred among your scumreads?


I don't feel like he's particularly scummy.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 12 2015 19:42 GMT
#674
On August 13 2015 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
if ruxxar turns out to be mafia in this game i have a lot to talk about with certain ppl.
if ruxxar turns out to be town in this game i will just vig him whenever i have a chance because he is too bad.


lol not a winning strat

just get better at reading him xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 12 2015 19:42 GMT
#675
On August 13 2015 04:37 rsoultin wrote:
except he's not making any reads at all...he usually at least does that ^^

does he make reads as scum?

like hopeless isn't really playing so i'm trying to figure out if that's because he is scum or because of something non alignment indicative
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 12 2015 19:44 GMT
#676
On August 13 2015 02:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 01:34 ruXxar wrote:
On August 13 2015 01:04 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 00:59 ruXxar wrote:
On August 13 2015 00:53 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 00:39 ruXxar wrote:
On August 13 2015 00:11 Vivax wrote:
On August 13 2015 00:06 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 23:12 rsoultin wrote:
[quote]

i know what you're keying in on, rayn

you're saying how can the guy have different reactions to the same post, whether he's forgotten it or not? and as i said, the whole flavor of his posting is somewhat different this game so i'm not as sure on it here as i was in desert, but i still wouldn't lynch him today. lol i call it tone but it's actually behavior/personality-based and yes i do tend to put more value on a read that considers overarching play over one or two consistencies

especially when being inconsistent isn't outside the norm for ruxxy :/

My case i posted is in fact 50% bullshit just because i just realized i misread one of his posts where he says "a post about artanis" into "artanis' post".

So what he is doing is he is agreeing that i am right when he SHOULD know i am pushing something he hasn't even actually said or done. Like rsoultin, if someone now made a case on you based on "you called rayn town then now you suddenly call him mafia for no reason" would your response be:
1) "i have not called rayn mafia" or,
2) "yeah i did woopiedoo"

????


I noticed this later but didn't care to correct you.

Now can you answer the question I asked you:
Do you think scum are more likely to sheep your push or try to defend me?


I'll talk to you like you're town for a bit.

That's a question you should be able to answer yourself with knowledge of your alignment and me and rayn being the only ones pushing you atm?

Trfel I think agreed with us on you.

You've been wondering as well in an earlier post how scum would treat you, why are you still unsure?


I know what I would do in this situation if I was scum.
I would push my own ass 100% just like rayn is doing.

Rayb is doing us all a potential service by pushing me, since it creates a polarity between people that increases the chances of exposing mafia motivation.

I thnk a vote in me would bring very interesting results.

What's clear is that unless rayn is mafia, there's really no need for mafia to put in any effort in pushing me, since rayn is doing all the heavy lifting.

The case then balances on how likely that Raymond will be able to push his lynch through on me.

If town sentiment turns into a heavy favor of lynching me, then I think scum would favor speaking up in my defense to earn town credit.

I don't think scum hard defends me like attains did yesterday unless he was planning to turn the vote back on Ryan somehow, which he clearly wasn't doing either.

From this I surmise that artanis is town
.

In this push on me, I think mafia are most likely taking soft stances.

They have rayan and artanis taking the brunt of the blame either way I flip.

Of course they want to lunch me since I'm town, so they'll want to softly nudge town sentiment towards lynching me.

But if course mafia don't all want to align on one side if they can help it, so some may be speaking up against my lynch but not trying to actually push someone else.

Deconduo fits very well within this frame which is why u suspect him.


This doesn't make much sense. First of all, Artanis not using your defense for something doesn't mean anything since it's something he was able to talk about, and that's enough of a reason in itself.

But most importantly, he isn't really pushing anything else, he called hopeless a coinflip and put deconduo into the grey zone. He doesn't have anything strong besides his townread on you.

So I don't understand why he is so townie to you by your own standards.


Because he's hard defending me, when he has nothing to gain.

My vote wasn't gaining a lot of momentum to the point where a lunch was inevitable.

If my lunch doesn't happen, then he stands nothing to gain. He basically out himself in the line of fire for no apparent town cred, when mafia could've just as easily just stand by and let the mis lynch happen.


On August 12 2015 07:48 ruXxar wrote:

Not sure if mafia are defending me or trying to push me or if it's town on town fighting over whether i'm mafia or not.

I'm not going to complain that people are defending me, but I'm curious of what they're trying to accomplish. (Pocketing?)

etc.


So first you wonder whether they're trying to pocket you with a hard defense, showing you are well aware for reasons for mafia to defend you.

Yet when I ask you about Artanis all you can see is a townie motivation to do what he did?


It irked me that Artanis was taking such a hard defense on me when he barely knows my meta at all.
It felt kind if unnatural, but I don't know Artemis meta either so maybe that's how he plays.

Trying to evaluate it objectively I think it's a subra mafia play.
The fact that he's also trying to push VE is going to make him look doubly ass if VE flips town.
That puts attains in a really bad spot and would be a great risk to undertake as scum.


Let me sum up what you said so far across different posts:
    Mafia has nothing to gain from defending you.

    Mafia might try to pocket you with that.

    You think it's subpar mafia play to defend you.

    You believe that mafia is likely to be among those who defend you without pushing something of their own.


Now you argue using "but if x flips town it makes him look bad" when it's an argument nobody is able to use reliably at this point.

I find it impossible at this point to believe anything you say.


It all depends on HOW you do it. There's a huge difference between being the first to hard defend someone and being second to throw a town read on someone after someone already tested the waters.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 12 2015 19:44 GMT
#677
On August 13 2015 04:42 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2015 04:37 rsoultin wrote:
except he's not making any reads at all...he usually at least does that ^^

does he make reads as scum?

like hopeless isn't really playing so i'm trying to figure out if that's because he is scum or because of something non alignment indicative


not sure

the game i just came out of with him he was town and making reads (while barely playing) though
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 12 2015 19:44 GMT
#678
seems like he makes posts as scum as well? just looking over his past few games?

dunno seems like hopeless just isn't here right now then. i guess we can sort of randomly lynch him though.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 12 2015 19:46 GMT
#679
On August 13 2015 02:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm gonna go make a nice list post because it feels like we're just regurgitating the whole Ruxxar thing over and over again and I don't want to lynch him so it'd be great to discuss others too.

raynpelikoneet - clear town, detailed evaluations even if I think they're wrong on ruxx, and his early strong townread on me is something I don't think he would've done as mafia.

Trfel - After reading his filter I really don't know. What irks me is that he seems to just be going for the lowest hanging fruit (Chez, Ruxx, Deconduo) and his (presumably) reason to scumread me felt weak and without critical thought, and I have higher expectations than that for Trfel. He's also been inactive for Trfel standards. What makes me reluctant is that tonewise he does feel very much like townTrfel. He feels confident, but not overconfident in his reads in a way that I've come to know of townTrfel.

Rsoultin - Probably town? Some of the uncertainty in her posts feels weird as I'm used to her pushing her thoughts strongly, Rayn had a nice post on it earlier and she's been the same way with Ruxx. On the other hand she's come forth with a bunch of her own opinions and there's plenty of smileys to go around.

Damdred - I currently have no idea. Need more time.

ruXxar - Already detailed.

Palmar - Has given some reads, has not given reasons for them but has been so blatant about that fact that there would basically be no scum motivation to make them, but he's done so little that it's not much to go off.

prplhz - Hasn't done anything.
Deconduo -
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 23:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 12 2015 23:22 rsoultin wrote:
thoughts on condor, then?

or prp lol ><

Deconduo is weird. His posts haven't had any focus. Actually he might be my preferred lynch candidate for today but something really silly is making me hedge, which is this:
On August 12 2015 06:01 deconduo wrote:
On August 12 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
deconduo could you please do something useful?


Like tell people not to claim their hurricane name. Cos apparently that's pretty useful.

The arrogance in that even when he hasn't really done much leads me to believe he actually believes he's contributing, so meh.

VisceraEyes - Despite claiming that I meta'd him (when my points were actually all things I'd generally consider mafia traits) Rayn pointed out that he's done them as town so I'm not left with much. Cockyness suggests town.

Hopeless1der - Useless and doesn't care.

Chezinu - ?????????, he's called out Ruxxar before it was cool (after Vivax, but before Rayn) and discussed the Chezinu rule a bunch. He's made a cryptic post or two but they seem to be more setup related than reads related. Not a clue.

Vivax -
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 05:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Because he's too upfront with all his opinions and pretty carefree. This post especially
On August 12 2015 02:09 Vivax wrote:
On August 12 2015 02:07 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote:
maybe both :/

You also said one of us is scum, why not both?


Very possible.
What do you think of hopeless?


I hate the way he plays cause of past experiences, but right now he's the enemy of my enemy so I'm cutting him a big chunk of slack until I know what you are.

I'm still wondering what these random questions are supposed to achieve. Didn't your opinion on me change in our entire convo?

How he's so open about cutting the enemy of his enemy slack for that reason is something I don't think scum Vivax would feel comfortable to say.


Something that worries me about my own reads is that a lot of it is tone based. Though I'm very confident in the Ruxx one it's much less so on other players. Feedback on any you agree/disagree with is appreciated.


This is a very good list.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 12 2015 19:46 GMT
#680
lynch hopeless
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