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On August 12 2015 06:27 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 06:26 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote:On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...
Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.
I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen. On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^ On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer. On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino
not decided yet if I'm going to do things. I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler  On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry. However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not. On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine. Where has the post gone that you disliked son? Show nested quote +I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky.
Given your total absence of scumreads I figured you would have pulled out a method of figuring them out by now. If that wasn't it, what have you got to offer?
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On August 12 2015 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax can you explain these people why ruxxar is mafia because i am apparently incapable of doing so, Palmar doesn't give any fucks, rsoultin idk, Artanis does not read. I don't know who else to go to.
I think the explanation is that they didn't read properly, or don't care to do so, or to get behind what we were thinking at the time. Given it's day one I don't think it's alignment indicative but I'm not confident I'll be able to convince them by posting more, they will have to convince themselves by gathering the motivation to go back and reread in depth, provided they have that motivation.
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On August 12 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 06:27 deconduo wrote:On August 12 2015 06:26 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote:On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...
Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.
I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen. On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^ On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer. On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino
not decided yet if I'm going to do things. I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry. However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not. On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine. Where has the post gone that you disliked son? I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Given your total absence of scumreads I figured you would have pulled out a method of figuring them out by now. If that wasn't it, what have you got to offer?
Read the last page of the thread maybe?
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On August 12 2015 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax can you explain these people why ruxxar is mafia because i am apparently incapable of doing so, Palmar doesn't give any fucks, rsoultin idk, Artanis does not read. I don't know who else to go to.
It might be because you keep saying I don't read without actually explaining what I'm apparently reading wrongly.
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On August 12 2015 06:33 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 06:27 deconduo wrote:On August 12 2015 06:26 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote:On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...
Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.
I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen. On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^ On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer. On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino
not decided yet if I'm going to do things. I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry. However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not. On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine. Where has the post gone that you disliked son? I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Given your total absence of scumreads I figured you would have pulled out a method of figuring them out by now. If that wasn't it, what have you got to offer? Read the last page of the thread maybe?
You mean how you scumread VE cause you don't understand the roleclaim? I think that's bad enough of a justification to be taken into consideration for a proper scumread.
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On August 12 2015 06:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 06:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2015 05:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I think VE might be mafia. First reason is: On August 12 2015 01:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh I wanted to be the very first to throw scum on Artanis just for being good at being scum. He's scary as fuck and if he lives longer than 3 days we kill him no questions period k? Thx. I don't recall VE being someone that fearmongers this much. I'm far from the best mafia player around as well. I've had two good mafia games and the rest have been washes. It also achieves scum objectives in the sense that it throws suspicion on me without actually quantifying it with anything. Vivax did something similar, but he's Vivax. Secondly, he clearly wasn't reading the thread. On August 12 2015 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
The real question is: why isn't anyone else suspicious of Trfel if he's NOT mafia. That's the real question. Plenty of people indicated townreads on Trfel at that point, and I had called his play suspicious as well before coming back to it later. Fine: 1) VE jsut had a game where he wanted to kill the shit out of me because he felt like i was "pocketing him again" as he had townread me when i was scum for two games in a row. You can call that "fearmongering", i call this "similar approach". 2) There are several instances where VE has not been reading the thread properly, like in the last game he wanted to kill me 36h later i had already flipped. case closed? Here is game: http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1994 I'm not reading an entire game but I'll take your word for it. ##UnvoteI'll try rereading Ruxxar again but I really don't think he's scum still.
Actual posts:
1) http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1994&pid=202816#pid202816
2) http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1994&pid=204313#pid204313 (read a couple of posts further)
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On August 12 2015 06:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax can you explain these people why ruxxar is mafia because i am apparently incapable of doing so, Palmar doesn't give any fucks, rsoultin idk, Artanis does not read. I don't know who else to go to. It might be because you keep saying I don't read without actually explaining what I'm apparently reading wrongly.
you are saying stuff like "ruxxar reread and come to a different conclusion" which is not what happened at all.
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On August 12 2015 06:34 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 06:33 deconduo wrote:On August 12 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 06:27 deconduo wrote:On August 12 2015 06:26 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote:On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...
Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.
I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen. On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^ On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer. On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino
not decided yet if I'm going to do things. I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry. However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not. On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine. Where has the post gone that you disliked son? I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Given your total absence of scumreads I figured you would have pulled out a method of figuring them out by now. If that wasn't it, what have you got to offer? Read the last page of the thread maybe? You mean how you scumread VE cause you don't understand the roleclaim? I think that's bad enough of a justification to be taken into consideration for a proper scumread.
On August 12 2015 06:32 Vivax wrote:
I think the explanation is that they didn't read properly, or don't care to do so.
Do you ever take your own advice?
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On August 12 2015 06:37 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 06:34 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 06:33 deconduo wrote:On August 12 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 06:27 deconduo wrote:On August 12 2015 06:26 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote:On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...
Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.
I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen. On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^ On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer. On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino
not decided yet if I'm going to do things. I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry. However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not. On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine. Where has the post gone that you disliked son? I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Given your total absence of scumreads I figured you would have pulled out a method of figuring them out by now. If that wasn't it, what have you got to offer? Read the last page of the thread maybe? You mean how you scumread VE cause you don't understand the roleclaim? I think that's bad enough of a justification to be taken into consideration for a proper scumread. Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 06:32 Vivax wrote:
I think the explanation is that they didn't read properly, or don't care to do so. Do you ever take your own advice?
No need to, I'll just get Ruxxar lynched and then lynch you for being stupid or mafia.
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On August 12 2015 06:40 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 06:37 deconduo wrote:On August 12 2015 06:34 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 06:33 deconduo wrote:On August 12 2015 06:31 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 06:27 deconduo wrote:On August 12 2015 06:26 Vivax wrote:On August 12 2015 02:58 deconduo wrote:On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...
Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.
I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T I noticed a couple of people finding fault with this read. I agree that RS's opening posts are enthusiastic, and though I don't know if the rest is true ("Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum"), no one has contradicted this yet, including RS, that I have seen. On August 11 2015 15:51 ruXxar wrote:
Hello team.
My name is ruxxy and I'm a hurricane *whoosh*.
Also am town ^^ On August 11 2015 18:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'm also claiming Millderer. On August 11 2015 18:02 Palmar wrote:
hey guys I rolled town so pls no lyncherino
not decided yet if I'm going to do things. I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Yes this is a rant, and is mostly just filler On August 11 2015 22:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi! I don't like Trfel and my hurricane name is a GIRLS name. Both of those statements make me SOOOOOO angry. However this I really don't like. I understand the whole WIFOM thing, but really we want to limit this sort of information as much as possible. I don't see how it benefits us, whether its a lie or not. On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine. Where has the post gone that you disliked son? I dislike these kind of posts. I don't think they are a tell either way, but I just find them tacky. Given your total absence of scumreads I figured you would have pulled out a method of figuring them out by now. If that wasn't it, what have you got to offer? Read the last page of the thread maybe? You mean how you scumread VE cause you don't understand the roleclaim? I think that's bad enough of a justification to be taken into consideration for a proper scumread. On August 12 2015 06:32 Vivax wrote:
I think the explanation is that they didn't read properly, or don't care to do so. Do you ever take your own advice? No need to, I'll just get Ruxxar lynched and then lynch you for being stupid or mafia.
no we need to lynch hopelesswonder D2.
you can push deconduo on N2 if you want to. 
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On August 12 2015 06:10 deconduo wrote:
Even with everyone jumping on ruxx, I don't see anything jump out at me reading through his filter. The mixup looks to be genuine.
can you elaborate on this please?
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Oh man Artanis was that real? If so you're just....not allowed to read me anymore I guess. At least with any expectation of being taken seriously.
XD
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Like why are people even trying to meta read me anyway? I barely ever play anymore LMAO
Whatever, it's just funny.
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I don't exactly meta read you ever VE.
Just because it's been like 2yrs since i have seen you as mafia.
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Yea I'm pretty sure ruxxar is town in this case, he contradicted himself,and what he said doesn't make sense but it doesn't make sense.
I just think you are wrong just Luke last game we played with him and just tunneling,now. If let's say it was palmar or rs or myself who made that slip I think you would have a stronger case but it's really,nia of ruxxar in this situation.
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On August 12 2015 02:15 Trfel wrote:
Vivax, when I was making that post on Chezinu, I felt like my posts were really suspicious. I was scared that Damdred would catch me, so that's why I asked for his opinion first so I could agree with it. When he didn't give any, I felt like if I just left I would look really scummy, so I just posted the first thing that came into my mind.
I wanted to ask this earlier.
Trfel why do you say this?
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On August 12 2015 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Yea I'm pretty sure ruxxar is town in this case, he contradicted himself,and what he said doesn't make sense but it doesn't make sense.
I just think you are wrong just Luke last game we played with him and just tunneling,now. If let's say it was palmar or rs or myself who made that slip I think you would have a stronger case but it's really,nia of ruxxar in this situation.
it is not similar at all.
"being dumb" is one thing, saying two different things on one thing is another.
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It is similar in that you are tunneling on him for things that aren't exactly alignment indicative in this case.
And oh well he contradicted himself it happens every game to someone and it can be either alignment. Like,when I thought he town read me,one game,then,called me scum. Then I had to backtrack etc. Accidents happen shrug
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Like i am trying to be as clear as possible:
ruxxar says one of Vivax/Hopeless is mafia
Vivax makes a post.
He says one of them "looks a bit better"
He pushes Vivax (with questioning, but it is essentially the same thing because if he thought Hopeless was mafia then he would Q him instead) also see green
People call him out for the read because it is not clear who is he even talking about
I ask him "which one does look a bit better" (because i have just voted for hopeless)
He says random other things
I tell him to answer clearly
He says "Vivax looks better"
I ask why do you question Vivax then instead of Hopeless?
He says, "because i thought this green post made was by artanis. I fucked up"
I ask him "why did you then push Vivax based on the SAME post. Like if that post is from Artanis (as you thought) why are you pushing Vivax for that post?
dudeeeesssS????
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Like this post in question is supposed to be somehow something that made him go back from his scumread on Vivax (later on), but at the same time (at first) it is the ORIGINAL reason he is pushing Vivax.
nonono.
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