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On August 12 2015 04:34 Damdred wrote:
Just looks like his town game the last few pages even if he got caught in an inconsistent spell that's more prone for town tux than scum rux.
He was also catchable in Gaiden, just that he didn't fuck up as badly that early.
Whenever somebody brings up the argument that somebody is town cause as mafia he wouldn't fuck up, it curls up my toenails.
I just don't see what's the argument for a town to be more clumsy than this as mafia. He forgets what he says, his reads don't have a viable explanation he would at least deliver afterwards, they don't adapt to new circumstances.
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Damdred why were you tempted to vote for him in the first place?
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On August 12 2015 03:53 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 03:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 12 2015 03:44 rsoultin wrote:On August 12 2015 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Decon you really think the most alignment indicative thing in the thread is me jokin gabout my hurricane name? LMAO
LMAOOOOOO
LMAO -squints at- I thought it was funny. A lot. Sup? Like we all have names and EVEN IF I'm telling the truth, what benefit is that for mafia? What benefit is it for town? Me joking about my name is hilariously not alignment indicative and Decon was very specific in clarifying that "the only thing that REALLY bothers me is VE joking about his name"....like for real dude? you're very all capsy in odd places, seems forced
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Cool story! When you think you've found something that makes me mafia let me know though. :D
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I didn't like his posts and he felt mechanical.
Now he feels more like saying whatever regardless of consequences. Meh just looks more like his town fame.
Though I'm not saying he's town for messing up.
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On August 12 2015 04:48 Damdred wrote:
I didn't like his posts and he felt mechanical.
Now he feels more like saying whatever regardless of consequences. Meh just looks more like his town fame.
Though I'm not saying he's town for messing up.
The question for me is: Why didn't this further stir your curiousity? You preferred to stay on the sidelines during the exchange, nothing really suggesting you had a real interesting into figuring out more.
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Vote Count
Trfel (2): Chezinu, VisceraEyes
Hopeless1der (2): raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, ruXxar
ruXxar (2): raynpelikoneet, Vivax
Not Voting (7): Artanis[Xp], Trfel, Damdred, Palmar, prplhz, deconduo, Hopeless1der
Currently No One is set to be lynched.
Day 1 ends on August 12 02:00 GMT (+00:00) in
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On August 12 2015 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ruxxar is there a reason i should call you town at this point?
Yes, I've been trying to solve the game.
I've been throwing scum on some, asked for opinions, and pointed out things that I didn't like.
I've been having some original reads that was not sheeping others, not afraid to make myself look bad and besides the one post where I said "I read his filter etc etc", which was a terrible post made on a false premise, everything else I've done adds up to town trying to find mafia.
I've done more than some people that I'm sure you are aware of, but I'm not going to compare myself yet.
If I'm mafia you'll be able to find mafia motivation behind my actions(which unfortunately there are none).
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On August 12 2015 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Chez
Everyone knows about the Chezinu rule. Have for a long time. Does this alter your perception of its validity?
No.
It has never failed. ever. I can't even recall how many times it has worked. I really started to notice the Chezinu Rule when I played with Blazinghand for the first time.
I didn't realize this, but others pointed out that Damdred attacked me first. He has played with me before.
The Chezinu Rule states that the first person to accuse Chezinu is mafia if that person never played with Chezinu before. In this case, Truffle was the first person who never played with Chezinu to attack Chezinu. Now, I haven't analyzed my previous games to see if there is a pattern with the second case. It could be possible...
Last time I was town, the first person to accuse me was mafia. However, I played a game with said person before so I didn't follow through with Chezinu Rule. This person was a username that looked like pplrpr... don't feel like looking it up.
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I think Ruxxar, Vivax and Rayn are town. Ruxxar because he's going all gung-ho on this Artanis/Palmar thing on Vivax and I've rarely seen mafia makes posts like this:
On August 12 2015 04:06 ruXxar wrote:
Ok so I mixed up the order of things and made me look like ass.
I know that.
So I'm going to put this fuckup behind me and look ahead.
You can hang on in the past and vote me and look like ass when I flip town, or you can move on and we'll find the real mafia.
It's the kind of martyring confidence that only comes from town.
Vivax because he's too upfront with all his opinions and pretty carefree. This post especially
On August 12 2015 02:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 02:07 ruXxar wrote:On August 12 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote:
maybe both :/
You also said one of us is scum, why not both? Very possible. What do you think of hopeless? I hate the way he plays cause of past experiences, but right now he's the enemy of my enemy so I'm cutting him a big chunk of slack until I know what you are. I'm still wondering what these random questions are supposed to achieve. Didn't your opinion on me change in our entire convo?
How he's so open about cutting the enemy of his enemy slack for that reason is something I don't think scum Vivax would feel comfortable to say.
Rayn because he's hard townreading me when there was little reason for a hard townread. I think a scum Rayn would soft town me at best, but it's clear he sees something and it feels like he's trying to figure out the game rather than throw salt around.
I think VE might be mafia. First reason is:
On August 12 2015 01:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh I wanted to be the very first to throw scum on Artanis just for being good at being scum. He's scary as fuck and if he lives longer than 3 days we kill him no questions period k? Thx.
I don't recall VE being someone that fearmongers this much. I'm far from the best mafia player around as well. I've had two good mafia games and the rest have been washes. It also achieves scum objectives in the sense that it throws suspicion on me without actually quantifying it with anything. Vivax did something similar, but he's Vivax.
Secondly, he clearly wasn't reading the thread.
On August 12 2015 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
The real question is: why isn't anyone else suspicious of Trfel if he's NOT mafia. That's the real question.
Plenty of people indicated townreads on Trfel at that point, and I had called his play suspicious as well before coming back to it later.
I don't feel that this VE is the town VE.
##Vote VisceraEyes
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On August 12 2015 05:27 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 03:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
@Chez
Everyone knows about the Chezinu rule. Have for a long time. Does this alter your perception of its validity? No. It has never failed. ever.
lie
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On August 12 2015 04:23 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 04:13 ruXxar wrote:
See, here's how our games go rayn.
I play like trash. You call me scum.
Scum somehow manages to fuck it up and look even worse than me, and then we lynch the scum.
I'm just waiting for you to realize who the real scum is. I'm sure you'll find out before the end of day. I don't get how you can be so passive in your actions if you're so sure who scum is. Can you give us a few reads besides me and hopeless? Clearly you townread rayn by now. I'd agree on that. But I don't know how you were able to say you liked Palmar when he didn't even play and has just been doing the Palmar thingy of not doing anything on purpose? Then you said that you didn't say he's town if I recall correctly. On top of it you put the conditional that one of me or hopeless is scum but you can't explain why it has to be one. Then you say you liked somebody's posts while rest of town discussed which of me or hopeless you actually meant (didn't see you eager to drop input on that either). Then you said you somehow found me better. You accused me first and then asked questions. You accused me but didn't pursue it when I dropped stuff for you to pick up on (like me saying I have fun lynching town), you didn't really change your opinion on me in the process of me calling you scum. Generally in our conversation you lacked adaptation to what we were talking about. It was still all about Palmar and Artanis while not considering the accusations I was bringing against you. They are just as worth of analysis to a townie that isn't mafia, yet not for you, and that's scummy. General tone of your posts has been to keep it minimalistic, revealing as little as possible while trying to keep the appereance of your original reasoning (me not pushing Art and pushing Palm). I think this sums up why you are a very viable lynch for today.
1) I'm not sure who scum are. If I knew then you'd see me tunneling them to hell and back.
I have some ideas, and I'm willing to explore them and see how people react when attacked.
2) Reads :
Town:
- Rayn
- Damdred
- VE gets a daypass.
- RS gets a daypass.
Scum:
-Trfel
- Vivax / hopeless. Leaning more towards hopeless.
3) It doesn't have to be ohnly one, but I had a feeling that at least one of you are scum.
Like I said, attacking palmar for reasons other than him being scummy is rubbing me the wrong way.
Hopeless said it would be "funny to lynch him"
You gave some reason for why you would lynch palmar and not artanis that I still don't understand(waiting for a re-explanation).
4) I thought it was obvious when I replied to damdred, I didn't realize that it was unclear that I was talking about you.
5) See #4
6) Yes I accused you because of #3, suddenly you both seemed to zero in on palmar for whatever unknown reason. It was suspicious to me.
7) The question wasn't for you, I had other questions to determine your alignment.
8) I must've missed the accusations, I was busy responding to rayn.
You can repost them if I didn't answer them.
9) If something is unclear, ask. When I sit on the phone it's a damn chore to write big posts, so I write small posts.
When I'm home after work I get on the pc and can write more indepth.
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artanos artanis artanis....
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Rayn, Ruxx is town. Stop tunneling him.
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On August 12 2015 05:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, Ruxx is town. Stop tunneling him.
No, let him keep going.
I think it's healthy for him to get it out of his system.
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On August 12 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 03:34 deconduo wrote:
Just getting into the swing of things. The VE post is the only thing that bothered me really. It felt a bit like a 'Hey guys, lets drop hints about our storm names' which is bad obviously.
Why does that matter?
It just doesn't feel like something a sensible towny would say in a game like this, given the setup. Maybe I'm reading too much into but given his response:
On August 12 2015 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Decon you really think the most alignment indicative thing in the thread is me jokin gabout my hurricane name? LMAO
LMAOOOOOO
LMAO
Quite a bit of an overreaction really tbh.
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Why do people just say stuff without even reading what i write?
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On August 12 2015 05:43 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2015 03:34 deconduo wrote:
Just getting into the swing of things. The VE post is the only thing that bothered me really. It felt a bit like a 'Hey guys, lets drop hints about our storm names' which is bad obviously.
Why does that matter? It just doesn't feel like something a sensible towny would say in a game like this, given the setup. Maybe I'm reading too much into but given his response: Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 03:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Decon you really think the most alignment indicative thing in the thread is me jokin gabout my hurricane name? LMAO
LMAOOOOOO
LMAO Quite a bit of an overreaction really tbh.
It's because it literally doesn't mean anything even if all the players in the game claimed their Hurricane names.
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Artanis, what do you think of vivax explanation here?
I don't understand what he meant, can you explain it?
On August 12 2015 01:46 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2015 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 12 2015 01:41 ruXxar wrote:
I don't understand why you don't want to push artsnis. Explain why it makes you comfortable when he does nothing even if he's scummy? yes this Vivax. I also want an answer to this. My current benchmarks for him are Imperial (mafia) and Guardians (town). Simply put, for him it's indicative if he tryhards or not. If I want him to tryhard or else, he will tryhard, if he's mafia. I want him to feel comfortable doing nothing if he's mafia, cause then I can see if he's mafia.
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