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BTW dude you should play dota with us. | ||
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On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote: On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you. what a shitpost | ||
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On August 06 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote yamato77 I really want you to elaborate why the best possible approach to an all vanilla game is a shitpost? I was being sarcastic | ||
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On August 06 2015 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: brrr.... idk... why? i can't possibly think why? because I wanted to poke at iGrok? | ||
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##Vote: Rsoultin | ||
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On August 07 2015 05:23 ruXxar wrote: Yamato, why did you call igroks first post shit? What are your reads? gonna read today in between TI games I will say, you asking me about that makes me less likely to read you town >_> | ||
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In another time, my best contributions in any given game were my analyses of the setup and the best way to play such a setup. Many of these posts went ignored. This one probably will too, but hey, I feel like writing it. Mountainous setups present a unique challenge for town. Unlike many other setups, town has no roles to fall back on should they play horribly. Therefor, it is important every day to take the lynch as seriously as possible, using it in the best possible way to continue to figure out the game. How is this different from the typical mini mafia game, you ask? I'll be glad to answer. In the average game, town wastes at least one lynch killing a player who has disrupted the game by being an idiot. In this game, this sort of lynch is really, really bad because the town gains little information, as these players are often town and often incredibly misguided in everything they are saying. It is imperative, then, that these ragey sort of player be kept at bay and summarily ignored if they go off the handle in a genuinely town way (*cough* rayn *cough*) One advantage of this setup having no roles is that none of you noobs can claim like retards and fuck up the game! :D So at least in that regard, town has a safeguard against fucking itself over, hahaha. I would expect mafia to be forced to be relatively active in a setup like this as being lurky and lazy is just going to make them too easy to single out. Outside of a particular meta-activity read on a player, I'd generally be wary to just go "lurker = scum" given that many town players are quite lost when they don't have informative roles and don't understand how to play D1. I'll give my thoughts on the game by skimming for opening posts I find interesting, and looking at player interactions and reactions that feel forced or contrived. | ||
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On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote: lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP this question is silly, though ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol >< damdy!whisperer This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read. On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote: My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game. Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta: If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win. If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them. This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town. I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however. On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote: i can actually he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little capice, rayn? @ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all let me be lazy ;o; This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment. On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order. I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot. Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him. He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok. On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote: I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin. Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible. Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles. I'm trying to understand ruxxar I don't like how Kelsier aproach me Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn. Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice. | ||
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On August 08 2015 02:27 Rels wrote: Yamato coming back the second switch to him starts happening is super scummy. It could be a coincidence, or it could be a mafia content with Edgar's lynch. I just fucking woke up. | ||
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On August 08 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote: 1) Why are you still voting for rsoultin? 2) what's your opinion of eddgar? 3) You actually appeared to be lurking and reading the thread since you responded to rsoultins "challenge" and voted for her, but somehow you're "only on page 12" doesn't make any fucking sense. My joke with tina was before the game started. I haven't even read edgar. I suppose that's a suggestion of someone to read? Thank you for being clear. | ||
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On August 08 2015 02:53 ruXxar wrote: Also a tip for you yamato. Today the vote is going to be between you and eddgar, so you better make the best scum case you can on eddgar or you're going down. If I don't think he's mafia, then...? It's like you think I have to find the other guy scummy. What if I want to lynch you? | ||
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1) He has a plan of how to play mountainous. I would expect him to. As mafia I doubt he comes up with this plan and follows through. 2) He finds tina quite scummy because of his metric of "active-lurking", and then gets into a tunnel when she calls him mafia. I don't agree with his read of her but it's fairly easy to see how he gets there. 3) He attacks ruxxar for horrible posts. Thus far I'm in agreement about this as well. Will read ruxxar's fitler next and show the horrible posts about which I speak. | ||
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On August 08 2015 02:58 ruXxar wrote: 1) Nope. 2) Well you better get to reading eddgar cuz you're running out of time. HOW DO YOU EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE JOKE I HAD WITH TINA? SHE POSTED ABOUT IT? I WONDER HOW SHE KNOWS I MADE A JOKE?! MAYBE BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT PREGAME? Literally wtf. | ||
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On August 08 2015 02:59 ruXxar wrote: Then you're fucked since I'm town. K, so basically you're scum confirming that eddgar is town. GJ, now I feel better. I see that responding to you is becoming less and less fruitful will cease communication. | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:05 Damdred wrote: So Yamato is this bouts of inactivity for grok usual for him? I mean, I know he has a job that has largely kept him from playing mafia for a while. He was never a high-activity player. | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:09 ruXxar wrote: That's not how you get town read by me my friend. Other people tried to do that and they paid for it with blood. #rip n00bking. so it's a trend that you're an absolute tool and people don't want to talk to you there's a common factor in these interactions... | ||
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Is ruxxar mafia or just actually a fucking idiot? | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:19 ruXxar wrote: Welcome to the club as numeber #212323 to call me an idiot. You'll have to stand in line to cash in your membership card. Do keep in mind that my track record of hunting scum is pretty good so you better fucking answer my questions. What questions haven't I answered? You want me to read edgar, yet you seem to have your own opinion on his alignment? I don't understand why you think my read on him has any bearing on your read on either of us. | ||
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On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters. I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse. ##vote iGrok I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier. I begin to see how ruxxar is so "split" on edgar's alignment he agrees with the shitty iGrok read but also doesn't like ruxxar himself. hmmmmm | ||
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On August 07 2015 07:46 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: I do not care why you are voting me. We are going to lynch igrok today. Every post he makes contains things that look like he is a person that is trying his hardest to formulate coherent reads to fit in but instead they look really flawed and based on silly things where he pushes false dichotomies such as someone being silly-town or mafia but we should lynch them anyway. None of these things are a towny thought process. Coupled with his coaching and cheerleading earlier and his inablity to answer basic questions then he is an excellent lynch. I don't like his read but wrong =/= mafia. What are people's issues with him, exactly? I get the low activity thing but that's just a meh thing | ||
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meh complaining that no filters = hard to play game is a poor excuse | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:34 CopCake wrote: ##Yamato Cake, I've posted a lot since you voted I'd say you should reconsider that read | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:33 KelsierSC wrote: what do you think of the case rels brought against him? I'll read it now | ||
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On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote: This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning. PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post: 1 - whining about filters 2 - reads 3 - vote igrok 4 - will no be active 5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread. PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird. PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup. Is this the case? I mean, saying you're not going to be around makes no one mafia. But yes, I don't like the one-off mentions of damdred and Kels that he doesn't follow up on. | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:37 CopCake wrote: why didnt you post tons yesterday when i know you were online but now btw? We were playing voice, and then I played dota, and then Tina >_> | ||
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She hasn't directly talked about anything I've actually posted Much like you, who seems solely to focus on the most irrelevant things concerning people's alignment. | ||
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edgar never mentions damdred or kels again in his filter | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:41 CopCake wrote: Yamatto i go by facts but ok, fair enough with your answer, i voted you yesterday because you were like "omg im going to post tons" but you didn't gave shit nor posted at all, and rayn said you hate to be mafia and you avoid posting when you rol that. Well I'm not avoiding posting, so...? | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:41 KelsierSC wrote: no i mean rels expands on the case somewhere Does it say anything different from what I understand here? I mean, there's no way to make a meta-evaluation of edgar because he's a smurf. Based on his play he's entirely lynchable given his single-minded focus and poor reaction to pressure. | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:44 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: I also feel that your reads on Kelsier are misplaced. He seems antagonistic and aloof and he seems to forget things that occur in the thread. He takes stances but he has no drive which I am used to from him. Can somebody explain why they think otherwise? So now you follow up with an explanation of the kelsier read. I will say, he seems rather disconnected with the thread currently. You say your general impression of him is that he has a "drive"? Could you elaborate? | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:49 ruXxar wrote: ++. Edgar give other reads besides rsoiltin. What do you think of Yamato? I find it difficult to believe you still actually think I'm mafia. Before, sure, people had the "scum meta-activity" read of me going on I'm not really going to argue with but now? Why am I mafia now ruxxar? | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:53 KelsierSC wrote: yamato who is town for you? tina, igrok maybe rayn, damdred not much else | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:55 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Inactivity and misplaced caps lock post earlier suggest mafia (his giant mechanics post too). His last post quizzing me about Kelsier seems entirely out of place and robotic from a Yamato who just doesn't care (as town). I think he's quite likely to be mafia but it wouldn't entirely shock me if he wasn't for this moment. You now have to reveal your identity if you're going to give a shit meta-read on me | ||
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On August 08 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote: well whyever not?!?! we all remember what we forgot, scum! ##vote edgar why are you certain igrok is town, yama? i get thinking this doesn't make him scum per se, but not the hard townread I just don't think mafia iGrok plays this way. I know I said it was possible he was mafia and had some sort of convoluted idea of how to play but it's quite easy to see how he just got caught up in arguing with you over some silly early read he had on you. I'd really like to lynch ruxx over edgar >______> | ||
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~50 minutes to decide. Much fun. | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:07 rsoultin wrote: ruxx is prob town yama trust the rsoul! why do you think he's town, tina? | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:08 ruXxar wrote: Go for it. Show the world what you're made of. See, the problem is, apparently no one is similarly inclined | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:09 Damdred wrote: ##unvote ##vote scott31337 I'm not entirely sure this is the right lynch but eod is sorta confusing for me a bit... ...? damdred? | ||
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unless you've never played with me (or rarely done so), I'm really inclined to just lynch you | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:11 ruXxar wrote: Btw, how about you answer the questions I asked you. I did, you obstinate fuck | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:11 rsoultin wrote: well, kyle there's this thing called ew mafia ruxx posting town rally ideal townie blah de blah sounds like a politician posts and then this thing called town ruxx posting like a jumping bean ^ play matches town ruxx zzzz I do remember mafia ruxx replacement posts from himalaya's fine, tina ##Vote: edgarallanpoe | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:15 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: And in what way is it alignment indicative? If I am mafia I am speaking from my opinion of your meta knowing your alignment and in that case it would make you mafia too and if I am town I am speaking from my opinion of your meta and it's either wrong or right. If you are going to call me mafia then I hope you are prepared for the consequences. What consequences, exactly? If you're mafia, you're posting bullshit and none of it means anything about my actual alignment If you're town you're fucking bad and no one is going to listen to you | ||
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Mafia don't fabricate horrible meta on townies? bullshit | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:19 ruXxar wrote: I asked you how you said in your post you were only in page 12, yet you somehow managed to read the thread and respond to rsoultin and me yesterday. So either you're lying and weren't on page 12. Or something is fucking off and i want you to explain how that makes sense. I read the last page of the thread at the time and responded lazily currently I'm fairly caught up with most of the important parts of this game as it pertains to this lynch why the fuck does it matter? | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:23 ruXxar wrote: Because the way you were posting indicated that you hadn't read anything, which means you weren't qualified to comment on anything. I'm going back to not responding to you if you think I'm mafia, have fun trying to lynch me I'll spend my time elsewhere | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:26 rsoultin wrote: stop ignoring me! i think edgar is artanis. what does that mean to you vets who have posted with him more? -throws things at yama, damdy- I doubt this is artanis artanis is not this bad | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:26 Damdred wrote: I really hate being ignored I'll just go play some games instead and let you guys shit up the thread I'll read the scott case, damdred | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:41 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: Is anybody actually going to link Scott's posts or are you all going to blindly lynch him without discussion? I am entirely not convinced with Kelsier's case on him. He has 6 posts dude the case is most of them | ||
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shouldn't you be happy people are sheeping your case...? | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:45 rsoultin wrote: itches yamato, itches i'm not convinced he's not scum but the itch must be satisfied! \o/ and there isn't time to do that right now lol >< he's not going to tell us, tina if there's anyone to actually give more time to it would be the guy who said he wouldn't be around | ||
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well it sort of begs the question | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:47 ruXxar wrote: Why are you so concerned with scott getting lynched? Why do I care who gets lynched? Oh, I dunno, maybe because I have a scumread I'm actually pushing? | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote: i don't expect him to tell us? i'll figure it out. i always do I don't have the faith you do. | ||
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On August 08 2015 04:52 CopCake wrote: how do you multiquote here? or do i need to copy paste all the posts? yes | ||
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At this moment I prefer edgar for reasons I've stated. | ||
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stop fucking posting until the hosts post this is fucking borderline cheating right now | ||
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fucking posting | ||
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On August 08 2015 05:40 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: If you wish to preserve the integrity of the game instead of whining then you should follow both the OP's time and the day post's countdown, both of which ended 39 minutes ago and has subsequently been posted. there is no integrity to this game any longer you acting like a mod fucking kills it I am going to crusade for your ban, whoever the fuck you are | ||
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On August 08 2015 05:45 EdgarAllanPoE wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/491051-desert-center-mini-mafia?page=65#1293 I have done the flip and night post for you + votes, feel free to just copy and paste it if you wish to make it "official" as some people seem to have qualms that me doing it is somehow game altering for some God awful reason despite me being confirmed dead. you are not a fucking host acting like a host as a player in the game, even if supposed to be dead, is fucking cheating are you fucking retarded? | ||
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On August 08 2015 06:04 Alakaslam wrote: Not gonna format the post. I have way too little conn to say much. Since it seems China just has a hard on for 1:00, I am changing the deadline after this nightshade to a nighttime deadline. Probably +6 hours, but this is not set in stone. Usually, when a host is gone inexplicably, the player can decently flip themselves and be excused. Apparently, we can't quite handle that, for some reason I literally can't read for a while. So, I will deal with it when I can. Shatto place is psycho. No, slam, that is not usual. We usually wait for the host to flip the player. | ||
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