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Should have my computer back by tomorrow
Tentative /in
I am god at mountainous
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Any deadline is fine I can't make any of them consistently anyway
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I HAVE COMPUTER
PREPARE FOR SPAM
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I get to lynch iGrok?! Awesome!
BTW dude you should play dota with us.
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On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.
what a shitpost
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On August 06 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote yamato77
I really want you to elaborate why the best possible approach to an all vanilla game is a shitpost?
I was being sarcastic
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On August 06 2015 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
brrr.... idk...
why?
i can't possibly think why?
because I wanted to poke at iGrok?
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I was challenged.
##Vote: Rsoultin
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On August 07 2015 05:23 ruXxar wrote:Yamato, why did you call igroks first post shit? What are your reads?
gonna read today in between TI games
I will say, you asking me about that makes me less likely to read you town >_>
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My Thoughts on Mountainous Setups
In another time, my best contributions in any given game were my analyses of the setup and the best way to play such a setup. Many of these posts went ignored. This one probably will too, but hey, I feel like writing it.
Mountainous setups present a unique challenge for town. Unlike many other setups, town has no roles to fall back on should they play horribly. Therefor, it is important every day to take the lynch as seriously as possible, using it in the best possible way to continue to figure out the game. How is this different from the typical mini mafia game, you ask? I'll be glad to answer.
In the average game, town wastes at least one lynch killing a player who has disrupted the game by being an idiot. In this game, this sort of lynch is really, really bad because the town gains little information, as these players are often town and often incredibly misguided in everything they are saying. It is imperative, then, that these ragey sort of player be kept at bay and summarily ignored if they go off the handle in a genuinely town way (*cough* rayn *cough*)
One advantage of this setup having no roles is that none of you noobs can claim like retards and fuck up the game! :D So at least in that regard, town has a safeguard against fucking itself over, hahaha.
I would expect mafia to be forced to be relatively active in a setup like this as being lurky and lazy is just going to make them too easy to single out. Outside of a particular meta-activity read on a player, I'd generally be wary to just go "lurker = scum" given that many town players are quite lost when they don't have informative roles and don't understand how to play D1.
I'll give my thoughts on the game by skimming for opening posts I find interesting, and looking at player interactions and reactions that feel forced or contrived.
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I blame Tina for not getting caught up last night.
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I will post as much as I can before deadline.
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I'll start with the stuff I had last night before things happened that I now regret.
On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.
Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain. rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town? lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP this question is silly, though ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol >< damdy!whisperer
This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read.
On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you. Ugh this post. So much try hard, I get tired just reading it. #1 scum so far. ##Vote iGrok Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide. i actually believe that you are scummiest so far. npnp, brush it off, you can take it. you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made? what is wrong with his posts all being serious? it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it. bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game. gave me a scum vibe. My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.
Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta: If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win. If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.
This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.
I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however.
On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2015 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/
the activity fixation is real
you can't be serious? i can actually he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little capice, rayn? @ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all let me be lazy ;o;
This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment.
On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order.
I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot.
Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him.
He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok.
On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote:
I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin.
Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible.
Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles.
I'm trying to understand ruxxar
I don't like how Kelsier aproach me
Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn.
Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice.
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On August 08 2015 02:27 Rels wrote:
Yamato coming back the second switch to him starts happening is super scummy. It could be a coincidence, or it could be a mafia content with Edgar's lynch.
I just fucking woke up.
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On August 08 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 02:42 yamato77 wrote:I'll start with the stuff I had last night before things happened that I now regret. On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.
Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain. rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town? lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP this question is silly, though ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol >< damdy!whisperer This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read. On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you. Ugh this post. So much try hard, I get tired just reading it. #1 scum so far. ##Vote iGrok Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide. i actually believe that you are scummiest so far. npnp, brush it off, you can take it. you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made? what is wrong with his posts all being serious? it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it. bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game. gave me a scum vibe. My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.
Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta: If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win. If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.
This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town. I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however. On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/
the activity fixation is real
you can't be serious? i can actually he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little capice, rayn? @ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all let me be lazy ;o; This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment. On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order. I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot. Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him. He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok. On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote:
I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin.
Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible.
Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles.
I'm trying to understand ruxxar
I don't like how Kelsier aproach me Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn. Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice. 1) Why are you still voting for rsoultin? 2) what's your opinion of eddgar? 3) You actually appeared to be lurking and reading the thread since you responded to rsoultins "challenge" and voted for her, but somehow you're "only on page 12" doesn't make any fucking sense.
My joke with tina was before the game started.
I haven't even read edgar. I suppose that's a suggestion of someone to read? Thank you for being clear.
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On August 08 2015 02:53 ruXxar wrote:
Also a tip for you yamato.
Today the vote is going to be between you and eddgar, so you better make the best scum case you can on eddgar or you're going down.
If I don't think he's mafia, then...?
It's like you think I have to find the other guy scummy.
What if I want to lynch you?
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So I've skimmed iGrok's filter, and I find it quite easy to explain.
1) He has a plan of how to play mountainous. I would expect him to. As mafia I doubt he comes up with this plan and follows through.
2) He finds tina quite scummy because of his metric of "active-lurking", and then gets into a tunnel when she calls him mafia. I don't agree with his read of her but it's fairly easy to see how he gets there.
3) He attacks ruxxar for horrible posts. Thus far I'm in agreement about this as well. Will read ruxxar's fitler next and show the horrible posts about which I speak.
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On August 08 2015 02:58 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 02:56 yamato77 wrote:On August 08 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote:On August 08 2015 02:42 yamato77 wrote:I'll start with the stuff I had last night before things happened that I now regret. On August 06 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Rayn actually feels towny because he's looking for reasons to put people into town instead of nit picking and slowly trying to tilt players.
Scott feels different from his scum game feels excited and ok to play. As scum he sorta feels angry and not excited which is horrible well you did say they were going to be bad reasons so I guess I can't complain. rsoul if you have no emotes at all does that make you super town? lol nope it makes me scum forgetting to emote xP this question is silly, though ooooh yes and damdy is like town squared? or don't touch him town...ooooorrr i'm probably right as hell but i'll definitely be right as hell by the time d1 is through lol >< damdy!whisperer This sort of post is what I would expect from town Tina, fortunately. Nothing else I've read really stands out at me too much (I'm only on p12) but her "damdy!whisperer" thing made me laugh. Scum tina just makes me mad to read. On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
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Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.
#1 scum so far.
##Vote iGrok Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide. i actually believe that you are scummiest so far. npnp, brush it off, you can take it. you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made? what is wrong with his posts all being serious? it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it. bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game. gave me a scum vibe. My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.
Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta: If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win. If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.
This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town. I would expect iGrok, coming from a less-spammy time, to post things like this. Obviously it's not impossible that he's scum and trying to look like he's put thought into the game but I like this post from him, and even the post I poked fun at. It will be interesting to see how he follows up with his reads, however. On August 06 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote:On August 06 2015 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 06 2015 06:41 rsoultin wrote:
meh i may actually vote iGrok too :/
the activity fixation is real
you can't be serious? i can actually he's taken something arbitrary and is hounding it like a bulldog...super easy thing to hide behind if he's scum the reasoning may be sound but lol >< how he's going about it makes me twitch a little capice, rayn? @ruxx...just finished and blew it away lol...a sane, healthy person would be celebrating :/ i'm here talking to y'all let me be lazy ;o; This analysis of iGrok is poor. So early in the day, Tina claims that iGrok is somehow scummy for coming out of the gates with an enthusiastic plan for how to structure his play. Why? If he does nothing and just hides behind his anti-lurker campaign, sure, he becomes worse off, but she seems to preempt that with this. For the record, me disagreeing with early game reads by Tina does not really have any impact on my opinion of her alignment. On August 06 2015 07:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
reason is he is not reading the thread in a chronological order. I believe this was in reference to ruxxar. I had something to say about this post by rayn but I forgot. Instead I'll use it as a segue to my opinion on ruxxar, which is that I'm not wholly impressed by him. He continually questions my approach to iGrok's play throughout the game despite it being abundantly clear and accepted by everyone that I was poking fun at him. I don't understand why this has any bearing on my alignment, really, given that I hadn't given any real opinion on iGrok's play until just now. Also, I question his assessment that iGrok's play is somehow scummy, because I obviously disagree with this at this juncture. granted, I will need to read the rest of his filter to make a more accurate judgement, but at this time I would be more in favor of lynching ruxx than iGrok. On August 06 2015 08:03 CopCake wrote:
I can talk for sure of the people I know, which is rayn and rsoultin.
Rayn is being town in his "oh look, why dont you do this, why do you call that thing "this" but you do "another" cop mode and not just like looking for small things to blame people, people like "in general" aka he isn't looking for faults as many people as possible.
Rsoultin, let's do this analogy, we are cute lambs, mafia are wolves and rsoultin is the cute dog running in circles.
I'm trying to understand ruxxar
I don't like how Kelsier aproach me Lastly, I noticed this post from Cake about her two townreads. I don't mind the townreads so much as I don't really like her "not-townreads" in this post, in that she barely spends any time trying to explain her reasoning unlike her long-winded take on rayn. Moving forward, I'm going to take a look at iGrok, Ruxxar, and Cake. Any other recommendations for filters important at this time would be nice. 1) Why are you still voting for rsoultin? 2) what's your opinion of eddgar? 3) You actually appeared to be lurking and reading the thread since you responded to rsoultins "challenge" and voted for her, but somehow you're "only on page 12" doesn't make any fucking sense. My joke with tina was before the game started. I haven't even read edgar. I suppose that's a suggestion of someone to read? Thank you for being clear. 1) Nope. 2) Well you better get to reading eddgar cuz you're running out of time.
HOW DO YOU EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE JOKE I HAD WITH TINA? SHE POSTED ABOUT IT? I WONDER HOW SHE KNOWS I MADE A JOKE?! MAYBE BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT PREGAME?
Literally wtf.
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On August 08 2015 02:59 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2015 02:57 yamato77 wrote:On August 08 2015 02:53 ruXxar wrote:
Also a tip for you yamato.
Today the vote is going to be between you and eddgar, so you better make the best scum case you can on eddgar or you're going down. If I don't think he's mafia, then...? It's like you think I have to find the other guy scummy. What if I want to lynch you? Then you're fucked since I'm town. K, so basically you're scum confirming that eddgar is town. GJ, now I feel better.
I see that responding to you is becoming less and less fruitful
will cease communication.
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