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ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 21:34 GMT
#865
What is scott like when he plays scum?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 21:39 GMT
#870
On August 07 2015 06:38 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 03:07 ruXxar wrote:
I liked how Yamato called out I groks first post, so he ranks a little higher.

Do you seriously believe that ?


It was sort of the same opinion as me, but maybe he meant something different about it.
Without his answer i had to interpret it my own way.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 21:41 GMT
#871
On August 07 2015 06:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
What is scott like when he plays scum?


scummy i guess


no more like, what does he do.
any traits about his posting style?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 21:43 GMT
#872
I can sorta recognize towny scott,

but this scott seems a little bit overaggressive of what i'm used to from town scott.

It doesn't feel as standard town scott in a way.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 21:48 GMT
#874
On August 07 2015 06:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 06:39 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 06:38 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:07 ruXxar wrote:
I liked how Yamato called out I groks first post, so he ranks a little higher.

Do you seriously believe that ?


It was sort of the same opinion as me, but maybe he meant something different about it.
Without his answer i had to interpret it my own way.


WTF. Yamato clearly stated his post was a joke:

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 05:28 yamato77 wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote yamato77
I really want you to elaborate why the best possible approach to an all vanilla game is a shitpost?

I was being sarcastic


And you KNOW about it since KSC asked you to check yamato's 3 posts:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 07:32 KelsierSC wrote:
ruxxar did you read the interaction between rayn and yamato, tell me what you think

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 07:33 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:32 KelsierSC wrote:
ruxxar did you read the interaction between rayn and yamato, tell me what you think


sec ima go read.

all i remembner was yamato calling igrok post shit and i asked him why but he's gone now so dno, gimme a min

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 07:38 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:32 KelsierSC wrote:
ruxxar did you read the interaction between rayn and yamato, tell me what you think


k so i looked at yamato's interaction with rayn,

didnt really like the way yamato responded, seemed angry ish.

also looked at your first post ksc, kinda liked it actually, slight townread for u!



I don't believe you say something like that just as a joke
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 21:56 GMT
#877
On August 07 2015 06:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 06:48 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 06:46 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 06:39 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 06:38 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:07 ruXxar wrote:
I liked how Yamato called out I groks first post, so he ranks a little higher.

Do you seriously believe that ?


It was sort of the same opinion as me, but maybe he meant something different about it.
Without his answer i had to interpret it my own way.


WTF. Yamato clearly stated his post was a joke:

On August 06 2015 05:28 yamato77 wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote yamato77
I really want you to elaborate why the best possible approach to an all vanilla game is a shitpost?

I was being sarcastic


And you KNOW about it since KSC asked you to check yamato's 3 posts:
On August 06 2015 07:32 KelsierSC wrote:
ruxxar did you read the interaction between rayn and yamato, tell me what you think

On August 06 2015 07:33 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:32 KelsierSC wrote:
ruxxar did you read the interaction between rayn and yamato, tell me what you think


sec ima go read.

all i remembner was yamato calling igrok post shit and i asked him why but he's gone now so dno, gimme a min

On August 06 2015 07:38 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:32 KelsierSC wrote:
ruxxar did you read the interaction between rayn and yamato, tell me what you think


k so i looked at yamato's interaction with rayn,

didnt really like the way yamato responded, seemed angry ish.

also looked at your first post ksc, kinda liked it actually, slight townread for u!



I don't believe you say something like that just as a joke


Really ? Because 1 minute ago you said you didn't know what was the meaning of yamato's post:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 06:39 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 06:38 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 03:07 ruXxar wrote:
I liked how Yamato called out I groks first post, so he ranks a little higher.

Do you seriously believe that ?


It was sort of the same opinion as me, but maybe he meant something different about it.
Without his answer i had to interpret it my own way.

And now you're changing your story to say you know the meaning of yamato's post but you don't believe it.


I wasn't sure why he called it a shitpost, if his reason was the same as mine.
I don't believe it was as a joke, which is why want him to confirm his opinion on igrok.

If he confirms it was really a joke then he falls back down in the scum well.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 21:57 GMT
#878
On August 07 2015 06:54 Rels wrote:
OK ruxxar. Did you know before just now that yamato said his post was sarcastic ?


Yes I knew he said that.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 21:58 GMT
#879
And I have a very hard time believing he just picked a random post from igrok and called it shit for no reason, then backs off when challenged without actually trying to get anything from it.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 21:59 GMT
#880
Imagine rayn hadn't questioned him about it, you think he would've kept pushing igrok or you think he was just gonna leave it at that 1 post?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:00 GMT
#881
Feels very unnatural to just call something a shit post and then not following up right?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:02 GMT
#883
On August 07 2015 07:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote:
Feels very unnatural to just call something a shit post and then not following up right?

Yeah but both igrok and yamato explained why it was a joke so I don't know why you're still attached to the idea of him not joking.


How was it a joke? I don't understand.
Joke as in haha funny joke or what?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:04 GMT
#886
The only thing he did today was come in, pick a random post from igrok call it shit, but then it wasn't actually shit he was just being sarcastic for what reason?

I don't understand why he did that whole thing and i'm trying to understand.

"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:06 GMT
#888
On August 07 2015 07:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:02 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:01 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 07:00 ruXxar wrote:
Feels very unnatural to just call something a shit post and then not following up right?

Yeah but both igrok and yamato explained why it was a joke so I don't know why you're still attached to the idea of him not joking.


How was it a joke? I don't understand.
Joke as in haha funny joke or what?

It was yamato poking fun at igrok, just after igrok has warned yamato the game has started. So super NAI.


Ok maybe if they know each other from before it could explain it.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:07 GMT
#889
I still want yamato to explain it though since it didn't make much sense to me.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 22:20 GMT
#892
On August 07 2015 07:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:06 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 06:35 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 02:36 The Shining wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.


Probably my least sure scumread out of Edgar, ruxxar, igrok. I'm not really seeing scum in anyone else, except maybe Scott, but I'm only suspicious because of activity. I'm on page 27 right now and still haven't caught anything but rayn defending igrok(with good logic, let him play since the pressuring could make him useless) and I still don't see any reads from iGrok outside of RSo. He even had a post regarding the split between LAL and the dissenters but hasn't made a post about any other scumreads. And with him having RSo at only 50% scum as top read, it seems he's very weary of committing to any one way of thinking outside of LAL

OK good.

What did you think of this post ?

On August 06 2015 06:55 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:47 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:39 iGrok wrote:
On August 06 2015 06:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 05:14 iGrok wrote:
On a serious note, I will be pushing to lynch lurkers hard this game. Particularly in mountainous setups, activity is all we have to read you on. You lurk, I'm coming for you.


Ugh this post.
So much try hard, I get tired just reading it.

#1 scum so far.

##Vote iGrok

Yeah, I get that you're just doing this because you want to look like you have some activity, but at least this is some activity? I don't think you really believe what you said, so I'll let it slide.


i actually believe that you are scummiest so far.

npnp, brush it off, you can take it.


you still haven't explained why try harding makes you scum , or what was wrong with the post he made?
what is wrong with his posts all being serious?


it felt like he put too much thought into it and spent too much time writing it.
bolding text and polishing it to make it look real nice as if he was like "yo look at me I'm super town and I'm gonna be like super scum hunter 1000%" <--- town actions town cred GG ez game.

gave me a scum vibe.

My 2-line post came off as having too much effort? Hoo boy, are you in for a treat this game.



Since many of you have not played with me before (and I have not played with many of you), a brief point on my meta:
If I'm scum, I'll fake claim a 3rd Party Neutral Assassinating Survivor, draw multiple vigi hits and medic saves, and ultimately die but set my team up for the win.

If I'm town, I'll approach the game from a mechanics-focused angle, analyzing any and all known information about the game in order to break the setup, or at least make it town favored. On day 2 or 3, I'll write up a hyper-analysis of someone I find scummy, and either convict them or clear them.



This setup is Mountainous, which means no power roles at all. Some might think that this makes it impossible to approach from a mechanics standpoint, but the secret is that, as I said in my OP, Mountainous setups rely entirely on activity between players. There is no reason to lurk to avoid notice as town, because there are no power roles trying to avoid mafia notice. Play loud, play proud, play nice, and we'll all have a good game. Lurk, and you're clearly scum, either as mafia or bad town.



Not really sure what to make of this post. I want to immediately throw it into the same pile of Cake and ruxxar doing these self metas that just don't sit well with me. Like yes, meta can be used to find scum but you have to play the game, as well. This is a really big fluffy post where iGrok tells us what he thinks he does as town as scum. These always have to be taken with a grain of salt. Like obviously if you know you do xyz as scum and ABC as town, then you know enough to try and consciously change said meta.

He also reaffirms his stance on LAL.

One thing I did notice was he set that post up to say that in no way could he be scum here. We don't have 3p so he can't claim that like he would as scum. No vigi shots or medic saves to draw. He indirectly painted a scenario where there is no way he can be scum just because it's an all vanilla game and he can't do his normal scum things.

I'm not sure if that was intentional but if he's scum, that's a very interesting way to self-meta without giving away your alignment.

OK wanted to know if that was comparable to ruxxar / cake or no. Your remark about him setting up his meta in a way he cannot be mafia is super interesting.


I think it's town indicative for shining, it's town mentality to think about the post like that.
I had some similar thoughts too.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 23:28 GMT
#908
On August 07 2015 08:19 rsoultin wrote:
i don't hate it either, frankly

i do hate that for whatever reason people absolutely refuse to talk straight with me this game

am i speaking swahili again, damdy?


you actually are making sense this game rsoul
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 23:29 GMT
#910
On August 07 2015 08:17 Damdred wrote:
I actually kinda like edgars post...

Like it sorta resonates with me


mm. He's rising in my ratings after his lasts posts.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 23:29 GMT
#911
On August 07 2015 08:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
i could sheep scott or yamato


this is a really bad post
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 23:33 GMT
#915
On August 07 2015 08:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
nice

lay it on me


If you are town you don't want to align yourself with scott or yamato right now.

I especially don't see what town cred yamato has that you could possibly want to sheep him.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 23:35 GMT
#916
On August 07 2015 08:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
nice

lay it on me


Quote me something from yamato that made you go "aha this guy is town with really good reads, I need to sheep this guy"
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
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