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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 06 2015 21:35 GMT
#867
On August 07 2015 06:34 ruXxar wrote:
What is scott like when he plays scum?


scummy i guess
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 13:04 GMT
#1007
Rels casd is good. Happy to lynch Eap or scott at this point.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 15:32 GMT
#1020
I don't want to lynch grok

I don't think his early play is scummy, people have different styles and his is mechanical , his thing about rsol...well he isn't really the first to have issues with how rsol posts/plays. It's probably a clash of styles or ideas. I've been in his position where it just looks like she is spouting nonsense into the thread and until you get used to it it just looks nonsensical.
He has been around giving thoughts and I agree with some of it. and there are better lynches
Scott or Eap are good lynches
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 15:39 GMT
#1023
On August 08 2015 00:31 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay now i gtg.
see you guys on sunday and occasionally before

lynch edgar, or yamato.


ye i'm still onboard with this

@ruxx

what exactly is good about edgar's posting?


I liked his rebuttal against rsoultin because it makes sense.

rsoultin shouldn't try to lynch people that agree with her opinion.
If she's confident in her ability to find scum, then she shouldnt want to lynch those that agree with her because they're helping her push through her lynches.

So what if it's a bus? a dead mafia is a dead mafia, bus or no bus.


Because no one is ever 100% right, it's good if a town read supports your opinion .
if someone just agrees with you but provides no additional thoughts or reads or way to read them it isn't helpful and just adds doubt.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 15:44 GMT
#1028
He made that big mechanic post so I'm waiting to see if he adds anything.

I know you and rayn have a good read on him and this activity is low even for him. so if you would both lynch him that's fine. I would prefer scott or ep though.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 15:47 GMT
#1030
On August 08 2015 00:44 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 00:39 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 08 2015 00:31 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 22:41 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay now i gtg.
see you guys on sunday and occasionally before

lynch edgar, or yamato.


ye i'm still onboard with this

@ruxx

what exactly is good about edgar's posting?


I liked his rebuttal against rsoultin because it makes sense.

rsoultin shouldn't try to lynch people that agree with her opinion.
If she's confident in her ability to find scum, then she shouldnt want to lynch those that agree with her because they're helping her push through her lynches.

So what if it's a bus? a dead mafia is a dead mafia, bus or no bus.


Because no one is ever 100% right, it's good if a town read supports your opinion .
if someone just agrees with you but provides no additional thoughts or reads or way to read them it isn't helpful and just adds doubt.


It's not warranting a town-read that they sheep you without a reason, but i'd let them live if they help me push my stronger scum reads.
Also, sometimes people like your opinions and agree with them. doesn't mean they're scum for that.


So we agree that someone just agreeing with you doesn't make them town.

So if you find them scummy why can't you lynch them?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:07 GMT
#1099
I still think scott is a really good lynch

scummy behaviour, lurks, "oh my work blocked TL i can play after the day is finished."

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:10 GMT
#1105
On August 08 2015 03:08 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I still think scott is a really good lynch

scummy behaviour, lurks, "oh my work blocked TL i can play after the day is finished."



Kelsier if you had to pick to lynch 1 of Igrok, eddgar and yamato, who would you lynch?


def not igrok

i'm still deciding on the last two.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:15 GMT
#1110
On August 08 2015 03:14 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 08 2015 03:08 ruXxar wrote:
On August 08 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I still think scott is a really good lynch

scummy behaviour, lurks, "oh my work blocked TL i can play after the day is finished."



Kelsier if you had to pick to lynch 1 of Igrok, eddgar and yamato, who would you lynch?


def not igrok

i'm still deciding on the last two.



Ok, to help you along here's what I want you to do:

pose questions to yamato and edgar that would help you determine their alignments.


...

shut up?

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:20 GMT
#1115
On August 08 2015 03:17 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 03:15 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 08 2015 03:14 ruXxar wrote:
On August 08 2015 03:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 08 2015 03:08 ruXxar wrote:
On August 08 2015 03:07 KelsierSC wrote:
I still think scott is a really good lynch

scummy behaviour, lurks, "oh my work blocked TL i can play after the day is finished."



Kelsier if you had to pick to lynch 1 of Igrok, eddgar and yamato, who would you lynch?


def not igrok

i'm still deciding on the last two.



Ok, to help you along here's what I want you to do:

pose questions to yamato and edgar that would help you determine their alignments.


...

shut up?



NOPE.

If you are town you WANT to know who to vote for today so you better put in some work my friend.


yamato and Ea[ are actually giving thoughts and reads now, i'm reading them

i'm concentrating on that rather than having you prattle on.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:20 GMT
#1116
On August 08 2015 03:18 yamato77 wrote:
So kelsier, am I insane here?

Is ruxxar mafia or just actually a fucking idiot?


can't he be both?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:33 GMT
#1128
On August 08 2015 03:31 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 07:46 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I do not care why you are voting me. We are going to lynch igrok today. Every post he makes contains things that look like he is a person that is trying his hardest to formulate coherent reads to fit in but instead they look really flawed and based on silly things where he pushes false dichotomies such as someone being silly-town or mafia but we should lynch them anyway.

None of these things are a towny thought process. Coupled with his coaching and cheerleading earlier and his inablity to answer basic questions then he is an excellent lynch.

I don't like his read but wrong =/= mafia.

What are people's issues with him, exactly?

I get the low activity thing but that's just a meh thing


what do you think of the case rels brought against him?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:39 GMT
#1138
On August 08 2015 03:37 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.

I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.

##vote iGrok

I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier.

This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning.

PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post:
1 - whining about filters
2 - reads
3 - vote igrok
4 - will no be active
5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier
Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread.

PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird.

PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup.

Is this the case?

I mean, saying you're not going to be around makes no one mafia.

But yes, I don't like the one-off mentions of damdred and Kels that he doesn't follow up on.


he follows up on it later somewhere
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:41 GMT
#1144
On August 08 2015 03:40 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 03:39 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 08 2015 03:37 yamato77 wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.

I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.

##vote iGrok

I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier.

This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning.

PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post:
1 - whining about filters
2 - reads
3 - vote igrok
4 - will no be active
5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier
Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread.

PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird.

PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup.

Is this the case?

I mean, saying you're not going to be around makes no one mafia.

But yes, I don't like the one-off mentions of damdred and Kels that he doesn't follow up on.


he follows up on it later somewhere

edgar never mentions damdred or kels again in his filter


no i mean rels expands on the case somewhere
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:46 GMT
#1156
On August 08 2015 03:43 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 03:41 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 08 2015 03:40 yamato77 wrote:
On August 08 2015 03:39 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 08 2015 03:37 yamato77 wrote:
On August 06 2015 17:35 Rels wrote:
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.

I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.

##vote iGrok

I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier.

This post is super scummy. The vote does not make sense with the reasonning.

PLUS, it is the first post of EAP. And he talks about different things, as if he didn't know what to post in his first post:
1 - whining about filters
2 - reads
3 - vote igrok
4 - will no be active
5 - wary of Damdred and Kelsier
Talking about different subjects in his first post is scum indicative, 'cause it means EAP had difficulties entering the thread.

PLUS he does not explain why Damdred and KSC are weird.

PLUS setting up to not be active in a all vanille setup.

Is this the case?

I mean, saying you're not going to be around makes no one mafia.

But yes, I don't like the one-off mentions of damdred and Kels that he doesn't follow up on.


he follows up on it later somewhere

edgar never mentions damdred or kels again in his filter


no i mean rels expands on the case somewhere

Does it say anything different from what I understand here?

I mean, there's no way to make a meta-evaluation of edgar because he's a smurf. Based on his play he's entirely lynchable given his single-minded focus and poor reaction to pressure.


This is the case with elgar's response

On August 08 2015 03:08 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 16:43 Rels wrote:
It doesn't make sense.

1 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is scummy
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing


2 - Edgar thinks ruxxar is right though: igrok is pushing for rsoul's mislynch
Edgar is voting igrok based on ruxxar's read, which is that igrok is pushing rsoultin's mislynch:
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.


He reaffirmed here that was part of the reason of his vote:
On August 07 2015 07:51 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
my read on igrok was based on mine + ruxxar's opinions


3 - Edgar thinks rsoul is happy pushing for his mislynch
And now he's saying rsoultin may be mafia pushing for a mislynch:
On August 07 2015 16:17 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
There is a breakdown in thought process here and it looks like you [rsoul] were just happy to jump onto a mislynch wagon.


So he believes at the same time:
- ruxxar is scummy
- ruxxar is right, igrok is scummy for pushing rsoul's mislynch
- rsoul is pushing for edgar's mislynch

This guy is mafia.



This is exactly what my first post says and what I think, yes. Every game that I have seen Ruxxar in he was quite happy to bus his team anyway and so I simply did not discount that they could be both mafia together since independently they were scummy.


Basically I want to hear more from EAP that isn't a fight with rsoultin.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:49 GMT
#1158
On August 08 2015 03:44 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
I also feel that your reads on Kelsier are misplaced. He seems antagonistic and aloof and he seems to forget things that occur in the thread. He takes stances but he has no drive which I am used to from him.

Can somebody explain why they think otherwise?


i forgot what i forgot, please remind me

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:53 GMT
#1164
yamato who is town for you?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 18:58 GMT
#1174
I still can't remember what I forgot

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 19:07 GMT
#1182
btw since my case on scott

On August 07 2015 06:21 KelsierSC wrote:
I'd def like a scott lynch

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:41 scott31337 wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
idk i don't like ruxxar that much


Are you going to actually do something about it though? I haven't liked much of his posting at all - just like this one of yours.

Damd/Rayn town reads so far.

Not liking

## Fecalfeast / Rsoultin / Ruxxar

##Vote Ruxxar


first contribution. has people he doesn't like with no reasons, says he doesn't like FF for a throw away comment on ruxar? even though scott also thinks ruxxar is scum and gives no explanation at this point.

Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:43 scott31337 wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 06 2015 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote ruxxar

Here is the thing. He calls out iGrok's post. Okay let's say he thinks it's scummy (which it isn't - it's non-alignment indicative). Then he has random townreads on rsoultin and Damdred (which he should not). Let's still say he somehow manages to have those reads. Then he claims he did not read the thread chronologically (which he should not do if he is town). Okay let's still believe he does that.

Then he has NO FUCKING read on me, on me, who is defending iGrok's (his ONLY scumread) post. No, instead he treats me like a townie with his "hey rayn i wanna help find scum yoyo" post.

dude is mafia.



my reads on rsoultin and damdred are rock solid.

100% they are town, you can quote this post post-game kek


Is this because you have TMI?


the whole ruxxar being scum feels very much like opportunistic play and just going with the thread at the time.

Then he gives the explanation of his scum read on ruxxar . I already gave my thoughts on this.

Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:54 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:40 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:50 scott31337 wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:43 Damdred wrote:
Only one of your scum reads could be scum o think at this point.

Why are you ignoring almost everything and just jumping on rux without even trying to get others alignments? What even makes rux bad or rs


His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post) and then says you and rsoul are 100% towns and doesn't even mention rayn, myself, etc. I don't like it.

Wow that is so bad.

First, ruxxar had a reason to 100% townread rsoul and Damdred (relaxed town), and scott jumps on this without even asking about it.

Second, @ruxxar @scott, is this true ?

His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post)

Did ruxx stopped townreading scott before that post ? Cause I can't remember a post where ruxx does that.
If scott is right, my bad.
If scott is lying, I'm pretty sure he's scum.


I never dropped my town read on Scott.

I just didn't mention him in one if my lists and he thought I dropped him cuz of that.

Alright, my bad then.


You're not bad I asked Scott the same thing

To me it looks like an attempt to jump on ruxx , rux has a town lean on Scott from his first post. Now because rux doesn't have Scott explicitly town every time he mentions someone else could be town that makes him suspect?
Bull shit reasoning.




Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 01:07 scott31337 wrote:
On August 06 2015 16:57 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Unfortunately this game will not work for me without filters.

I like FecalFeast's/Raynpelikoneet's points that Ruxxar is looking like a forced kind of silly while self-metaing but then I also like Ruxxar's last post about iGrok pushing rsoul with a bad case and iGrok's posts in general seem very coachingesque so I'm at quite a bit of an impasse.

##vote iGrok

I will not be very active at all. I'm also going to note that I'm a bit wary of Damdred and Kelsier.


This post is pretty bad. I'm working without them as well - it kind of sucks, but.. You can always get TL+

FF has looked better, describing his Ruxxar read in so my words.
KSC has looked slightly better - he gets a slight lean.



My townies are townreading Rsoul though - a pass today for sure when EAP and Ruxxar look a lot worse.

I have more pages to go thru and work as well.

That's right I have to revote
##Vote: Ruxxar


takes a bit of time to poke at EAP and then continues the ruxxar hate.

random throwaway comments about me and FF but no additional input on anything ruxxar has done.

##Vote scott31337


this is all he has

On August 07 2015 14:17 scott31337 wrote:
My work installed a new firewall and TL is blocked. :/ I'm sad - but I'll have plenty of time to play this weekend. I'm 20 pages behind and have to get up in six hours.


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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 07 2015 19:19 GMT
#1204
On August 08 2015 04:15 EdgarAllanPoE wrote:
Can somebody link a collection of Scott's post into a spoiler for me?


I made a case against him last page
the important posts are there.
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