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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:27 GMT
#521
On August 07 2015 00:26 Rels wrote:
@Shining when you come back:
I would like to have your read on iGrok.

No, the first thing he does he posts his reads on ruxxar and FF.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 06 2015 15:28 GMT
#522
On August 07 2015 00:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:20 rsoultin wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


first, rayn, for people who actually care and value my reads (rels, for instance) relative certainty does mean something. and the second quote means i'm about equally certain on you and ruxx being town

secondly, i already responded to the shining question? i can go back and look at the specific reads, but it was a gut reaction to what he said. i liked the thought process behind the reads and i thought he could be town for them

to the second part;
okay so what do you find good on these reads?
- a townread on Damdred, for the same reasons basically everyone else townreads him? A good read? Points towards town?
- a scumread on Cake, for the reasons ruxxar should be a scumread awell. Funnily enough he apparently has read ruxxar's posts before this but for some reason this is not a reason to scumread ruxxar (they both gave examples of how they would play as mafia - in fact ruxxar overplayed it way more than Cake did. Cake was bragging, ruxxar was like "look at me how town i am because i don't do this stuff as mafia"). why is this a good read?
- he literally has no other reads


it's not the same reasons on damdred?

and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn

ye, there's a reason i'm least sure on him, but i still don't think he's the scummiest player

in all honesty, i haven't been a fan of cake's play this game. i don't think she's doing anything productive either

why are you townreading her? all you've said is you don't agree with people's scumreads, but i have a hard time seeing why anyone thinks she's actually town. can you explain it to me?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:28 GMT
#523
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:30 GMT
#524
On August 07 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
it's not the same reasons on damdred?

and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn

ye, there's a reason i'm least sure on him, but i still don't think he's the scummiest player

in all honesty, i haven't been a fan of cake's play this game. i don't think she's doing anything productive either

why are you townreading her? all you've said is you don't agree with people's scumreads, but i have a hard time seeing why anyone thinks she's actually town. can you explain it to me?

yes it is.

i am not scumreading cake because of what i just explained. cake brags, ruxxar overplays it.

but Cake is town.

because of moonlogic in one post.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:31 GMT
#525
to elaborate more (while i have already explained this if you cared to read my posts).
They are not acting the same. iGrok has a town motivation behind his posts. So does Cake. Ruxxar does not.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:32 GMT
#526
Like there is no reason you should as town play like shit wneh you know you can do better than "shit".
table for two on a tv tray
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 15:32 GMT
#527
On August 07 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?


I don't think my play is shit.
Day 1 is my fun day.
I play less serious and start conversations.
I get more serious as the days go by.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 06 2015 15:34 GMT
#528
Skimming through on my tablet.

Rels gives me super town vibes, I like everything he has said so far and his approach.

Eap entry wasn't good. See what else he got.

I admit I missed this shining case but it's kind of hard to go back and check it properly, I'd probably trust damaged on it though.

I think grok is just a mafia dinosaur who isn't used to how rso plays /posts.

I thought cake would be pushing or trying to interject more, as reps pointed out, maybe, no one has told her why they are town but she hasn't really cared. Be interested to see what reads she has.
Zerg for Life
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:34 GMT
#529
On August 07 2015 00:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?


I don't think my play is shit.
Day 1 is my fun day.
I play less serious and start conversations.
I get more serious as the days go by.

bullshit
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:34 GMT
#530
On August 07 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?


I don't think my play is shit.
Day 1 is my fun day.
I play less serious and start conversations.
I get more serious as the days go by.

bullshit

Like at the start of the game you literally said your play is shit.
table for two on a tv tray
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 15:35 GMT
#531
On August 06 2015 08:50 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:43 Damdred wrote:
Only one of your scum reads could be scum o think at this point.

Why are you ignoring almost everything and just jumping on rux without even trying to get others alignments? What even makes rux bad or rs


His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post) and then says you and rsoul are 100% towns and doesn't even mention rayn, myself, etc. I don't like it.

Wow that is so bad.

First, ruxxar had a reason to 100% townread rsoul and Damdred (relaxed town), and scott jumps on this without even asking about it.

Second, @ruxxar @scott, is this true ?

His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post)

Did ruxx stopped townreading scott before that post ? Cause I can't remember a post where ruxx does that.
If scott is right, my bad.
If scott is lying, I'm pretty sure he's scum.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 06 2015 15:37 GMT
#532
On August 07 2015 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
it's not the same reasons on damdred?

and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn

ye, there's a reason i'm least sure on him, but i still don't think he's the scummiest player

in all honesty, i haven't been a fan of cake's play this game. i don't think she's doing anything productive either

why are you townreading her? all you've said is you don't agree with people's scumreads, but i have a hard time seeing why anyone thinks she's actually town. can you explain it to me?

yes it is.

i am not scumreading cake because of what i just explained. cake brags, ruxxar overplays it.

but Cake is town.

because of moonlogic in one post.


ye i must've missed it and i still can't find it -_-

what is moonlogic?

eh, rayn...

so you think that shining can't have some sort of "this is town-motivated and this isn't therefore they're different" reason, too? cause you have it. i have it. we may not agree on which players those line up on but clearly it's possible to see these things differently when compared to how the player is playing overall

i think you're a bit too quick to decide "bad" is "scummy" and i'm not even sure i completely agree with you on what actually is bad lol >< i'm not going to play like you do because it doesn't work for me

why must everyone play like you do, rayn?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:38 GMT
#533
On August 07 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn

rsoultin i have to say one thing.
when i have a read, please never anymore discredit my read based on something completely irrelevant to the read.
table for two on a tv tray
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 15:39 GMT
#534
On August 07 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?


I don't think my play is shit.
Day 1 is my fun day.
I play less serious and start conversations.
I get more serious as the days go by.

bullshit

Like at the start of the game you literally said your play is shit.


Don't remember saying that. Quote please.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:39 GMT
#535
On August 07 2015 00:37 rsoultin wrote:
so you think that shining can't have some sort of "this is town-motivated and this isn't therefore they're different" reason, too? cause you have it. i have it. we may not agree on which players those line up on but clearly it's possible to see these things differently when compared to how the player is playing overall

If he does he will explain it reasonably and then i will change my vote. It's simple.
There is no reason to assume he does because he did not say it.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 06 2015 15:40 GMT
#536
On August 07 2015 00:39 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?


I don't think my play is shit.
Day 1 is my fun day.
I play less serious and start conversations.
I get more serious as the days go by.

bullshit

Like at the start of the game you literally said your play is shit.


Don't remember saying that. Quote please.

"i didn't read the thread very well and just posted at random things"
table for two on a tv tray
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 15:40 GMT
#537
On August 07 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:50 scott31337 wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:43 Damdred wrote:
Only one of your scum reads could be scum o think at this point.

Why are you ignoring almost everything and just jumping on rux without even trying to get others alignments? What even makes rux bad or rs


His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post) and then says you and rsoul are 100% towns and doesn't even mention rayn, myself, etc. I don't like it.

Wow that is so bad.

First, ruxxar had a reason to 100% townread rsoul and Damdred (relaxed town), and scott jumps on this without even asking about it.

Second, @ruxxar @scott, is this true ?
Show nested quote +

His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post)

Did ruxx stopped townreading scott before that post ? Cause I can't remember a post where ruxx does that.
If scott is right, my bad.
If scott is lying, I'm pretty sure he's scum.


I never dropped my town read on Scott.

I just didn't mention him in one if my lists and he thought I dropped him cuz of that.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
August 06 2015 15:41 GMT
#538
On August 07 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:39 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:32 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:27 ruXxar wrote:
On August 07 2015 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I wanted to leave early today so I just got home.
Three questions i want answered and i'll do some stuff to make the environment proper, then we go.
iGrok is not mafia.

First; rsoultin:
On August 06 2015 23:49 rsoultin wrote:
so

not lynching:
damdy
ruxx
rayn
rels
ksc
shining

yes those are in order of relative certainty

preferred lynch currently is edgar

On August 06 2015 23:50 rsoultin wrote:
though ruxx and rayn are basically interchangeable lol ><

Why would anyone ever care about "relative certainty" when you have three mafia to find and you have six townreads you do not want to lynch? Like who cares? And what does the other quote even mean?

Second; rsoultin i still want you to explain what i asked you about Shining.

third; ruxxar - do you prefer more playing as mafia or as town?


Town forever and ever.
I thank the based rng gods for rolling me town again.

so why did you decide to play like shit?


I don't think my play is shit.
Day 1 is my fun day.
I play less serious and start conversations.
I get more serious as the days go by.

bullshit

Like at the start of the game you literally said your play is shit.


Don't remember saying that. Quote please.

"i didn't read the thread very well and just posted at random things"


? And ?
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 06 2015 15:42 GMT
#539
On August 07 2015 00:40 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:50 scott31337 wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:43 Damdred wrote:
Only one of your scum reads could be scum o think at this point.

Why are you ignoring almost everything and just jumping on rux without even trying to get others alignments? What even makes rux bad or rs


His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post) and then says you and rsoul are 100% towns and doesn't even mention rayn, myself, etc. I don't like it.

Wow that is so bad.

First, ruxxar had a reason to 100% townread rsoul and Damdred (relaxed town), and scott jumps on this without even asking about it.

Second, @ruxxar @scott, is this true ?

His town read that he seemed to have dropped (I felt genuine in my post)

Did ruxx stopped townreading scott before that post ? Cause I can't remember a post where ruxx does that.
If scott is right, my bad.
If scott is lying, I'm pretty sure he's scum.


I never dropped my town read on Scott.

I just didn't mention him in one if my lists and he thought I dropped him cuz of that.

Alright, my bad then.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
August 06 2015 15:42 GMT
#540
On August 07 2015 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
and iGrok? what do you call his LaL thing? by the same reasoning, why aren't you scumreading cake and igrok since you're scumreading ruxx for it? this isn't a good argument, rayn

rsoultin i have to say one thing.
when i have a read, please never anymore discredit my read based on something completely irrelevant to the read.


i was contesting your reasoning because it was faulty, and demonstrating how it was faulty by giving you an example of your own play. that is not discrediting. please try not to be so sensitive

i have no issue with you pressuring shining
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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