On August 03 2015 13:20 rsoultin wrote:
we only have one blue role (hopeless) without onegu

half the other players here have nearly been lynched without ever claiming anything

the likelihood that onegu isn't named vt is pretty small imo, and we can be fairly certain after 3 nights without a shot that there's no vig. he's being lazy and not playing but that's not really any different than most of the town games i've seen him play

gb, hopeless died n2 after clarity/slam and ft were both dead. killing him actually makes it more likely that there's no gf or anything to interfere (rb) with the cop role, rather than less

i'd argue that there's nothing balanced about named vt/cop against framer/miller (lots of cop hate) and any form of a second mafia role, but that's setup wifom mixed with personal opinion

the fact of the matter is hopeless was shot and he wasn't really a great target unless his role was dangerous...or the move was specifically to deny information that would be given by shooting a more prominent player

it's just so very unlikely that scott is scum?

You mean you believe Mafia has just one role (framer)?

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

August 03 2015 11:14 GMT

#1745

ye

assuming oneg isn't lying, ye. that was our scum team make-up in horn of africa, a framer and two goons, which was an hts-run game, and that game had a cop/2-shot vig (granted we did inform hts that this wasn't particularly balanced afterward, but with what we know or can assume of the current setup, it would work just fine)

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

August 03 2015 11:15 GMT

#1746

are you guys saying you're all greens or what

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

August 03 2015 11:20 GMT

#1747

...

that wasn't the main point, bf. but usually there aren't more than 2 blue roles in a game and i've seen nothing to indicate otherwise in this one

surely you have more to contribute than a question that could be misconstrued (or properly construed?) as bluehunting -_-

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

August 03 2015 11:26 GMT

#1748

How am I bluehunting if the two power roles are known in Onegu who claimed and a cop? Could you stop subtly making up reasons to lynch me?

Rsoul imagine I was dead and I flipped green. Who would you scumread of all players alive?

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

August 03 2015 11:29 GMT

#1749

If I remember correctly, Kelsier scumread rsoul for a tone thing, didn't he? He dropped that totally, in favor of me and snickers. So wouldn't a scum rsoul pick a kelsier NK? I mean it would be awesome, people would think that I'm scum since kelsier just voted snickers and I had to fear that he'd vote me the same way, eh? Plus it would kill the person who'd probably go for a rsoul lynch, too.

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

August 03 2015 11:29 GMT

#1750

Like, everyone, just answer this: without taking me into consideration, who are your top scum reads and why? This is the question you guys gotta answer once I'm dead anyways.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

August 03 2015 11:40 GMT

#1751

-_- you do realize that gb, ows and i are all voting for palmar?

are you reading at all? i made a case on palmar. care to comment on that? care to comment on your own scumreads? ksc has been reading me town practically all game cause he's not a moron, and i've been confirmed town to him ever since d2. if you think i'd nk him...i don't even know -_- but that's wifom and i don't generally use shit like that to defend myself

you do realize that i'm about as confirmed town as ksc was? i find it mind-boggling that people would even consider that i'd start shenanigans on a partner when i could have just insisted on you instead since snickers was insisting he was blue and so few people seemed to want to lynch him

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

August 03 2015 11:41 GMT

#1752

On August 03 2015 20:15 boxerfred wrote:
are you guys saying you're all greens or what

what is the purpose of this question, bf?

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

August 03 2015 11:49 GMT

#1753

On August 03 2015 20:41 rsoultin wrote:

Show nested quote +

what is the purpose of this question, bf?

it's a rethorical question since I did not have the idea that everyone is VT at this point. I was fond of the idea of having a GF around but I'd expect another blue role then besides a named town.

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

August 03 2015 11:50 GMT

#1754

On August 03 2015 20:40 rsoultin wrote:
-_- you do realize that gb, ows and i are all voting for palmar?

are you reading at all? i made a case on palmar. care to comment on that? care to comment on your own scumreads? ksc has been reading me town practically all game cause he's not a moron, and i've been confirmed town to him ever since d2. if you think i'd nk him...i don't even know -_- but that's wifom and i don't generally use shit like that to defend myself

you do realize that i'm about as confirmed town as ksc was? i find it mind-boggling that people would even consider that i'd start shenanigans on a partner when i could have just insisted on you instead since snickers was insisting he was blue and so few people seemed to want to lynch him

tbh I didn't check the voting thread. I'm posting from work, and I'm stuck at "let's lynch bf". while I caught up on the thread, I didn't expect people to actually vote palmar :x.

Okay, I'll be back later, actually playing the game instead of just shitting up the thread which I am admittingly doing right now.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

August 03 2015 11:57 GMT

#1755

actually playing the game, not asking "rhetorical" questions and flinging shit everywhere to see where it sticks would be nice -_- i've got class

everyone in this game with the exception of onegu has been kinda clear on where they stand with multiple scumreads. you want to whine? at least read first

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

August 03 2015 13:48 GMT

#1756

Hi guys, just a friendly reminder I'm not mafia this game.

I like how you guys think that it's even remotely possible I would bus my entire team (remember, back on day 1 I was trying to lynch clarity who was also mafia before consolidating on FT).

Even if you believe I would bus my entire team, the thing that makes it absolutely 100% certain I am not mafia is that I would never bus/hammer my team and then just do nothing to capitalize on that situation. Everyone who knows how I work also knows that I have a very strong sense of duty towards my team when I'm mafia. It's literally impossible that I would have this drop off after killing my team off and feel okay about it. I would be letting them down in such a shitty way.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

August 03 2015 13:56 GMT

#1757

Also sometimes I just can't be arsed arguing with stupid.

When snickers got brought up as possible mafia this game I just quit playing. Sometimes I'll scream and yell when people are being complete imbeciles, but sometimes I just don't have the willpower to do so.

I don't know if I'll be doing much at all today, I think I've said just about everything needed to be said this game.

scott is 100% town.
bf doesn't sound like mafia
gb is insane and terrible, but that can be a towntell for him, seeing as he's generally insane and terrible.
Onegu has the claim, there really is nothing else tbh. The rest of you have made sure we can't deal with him.

this leaves

OWS
rsoultin

I don't really care which one it is. I kinda think it's rsoultin.

Regarding Onegu. Generally he'd be a good lynch because he's been absolutely worthless throughout the game. However thanks to two moronic decision from town (and potentially three, assuming you lynch me), there simply aren't enough resources to deal with him.

Moronic decision #1: Hopeless claiming on day 2 as cop with a single green check. I think this is the second game hopeless ruins by being literally the worst fucking cop on the face of the earth.

Moronic decision #2: Instead of lynching the people who can possibly be mafia, you all lynched snickers. GJ!