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On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him?
lol you guys love to focus in on this
i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_-
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On July 27 2015 04:45 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:44 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 04:40 KelsierSC wrote:On July 27 2015 04:39 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 04:36 KelsierSC wrote:On July 27 2015 04:34 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 04:29 KelsierSC wrote:On July 27 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote:.:Case on KelsierSC:. 1) Constantly whining about having to waste posts with bad things without actually using his remaining 50+ posts for anything else+ Show Spoiler +On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? On July 25 2015 19:39 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote:
what is with you defending yourself more than anything else See the better question would be , do you have any reads yet? Because that might be something interesting, instead your question looks to misrepresent what has actually happened in the game. unfortunately everyone is playing like shit so I have absolutely no one as town. On July 25 2015 20:10 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 19:57 Snickers wrote:On July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? okay so lets start with this. One simple post. ur talking about wasting ur post which most people would find slightly scummy. your post has a complaining tone to it even though we are not even a 20 posts into the game. "two people" mention it but you think it is enough to get angry about. one of the two people you say has a silly post? so following your thought process one person is enough to make you angry and have to fill a post with weird stuff. Also one person making you mad when there is three scum..... yes one person is enough to annoy me If he is so worried about wasting posts with useless stuff, WHY DOES HE WASTE POSTS TO KEEP SAYING HE IS ANNOYED? "Yes, one person is enough to annoy me", really? Why is he so annoyed, man? "Everybody is playing like shit". No, nobody is playing like shit in this game. This game is pretty concise and to the point. His annoyance is unjustified, it's ridiculous. Looks like mafia trying to fake being emotional. 2) Deflecting any early suspicions brought on him + guilty conscienceOn July 25 2015 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:It's a real shame that I have to waste one of my posts on this but I guess...time? is something people have trouble with. After I died in Gaiden I played in a newbie game and in lost but not forgotten, I rolled vt in both. bf perhaps you have an excuse of being overeager but scott you were in the newbie game with me. scott has been pretty wasteful so far, this comment is rather silly On July 25 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:
Hmm, cuz I thought Kei's post was the scummiest so far. considering there is more than one scum, so if I make an allegedly scummy post no one else can be scum? THIS IS HIS SECOND POST IN THE GAME! This is an unnatural reaction to what scott posted. In town mindset, the reaction I would expect would be "then you're stupid because I'm town" and not "ok, you think I'm scum, am I the only one lol". It reveals mafia's guilty conscience. More than that, and more important, it is a deflection of early pressure. He sees someone calling him scum and softly tries to shift pressure to someone else. If you ask "am I the only one?" a common response would be "no, I didn't like X as well" and if they keep talking about X, the pressure is shifted. The same reaction can be seen here: + Show Spoiler +On July 25 2015 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 19:50 Snickers wrote:
complains about shit play continues shit play This isn't going to lead to anything productive so I think it's best to just end it here. It can be interpreted in both ways: town not wanting to shit the thread, or scum deflecting pressure. Since Kelsier already displayed the deflection behaviour, the second option is more likely. 3) Wanting to lynch me then backtracking when having no reasons to+ Show Spoiler +On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote:On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote:On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote:This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes
but guys, guys, guys...
rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME!
Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 03:03 FirmTofu wrote:On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote:On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote:On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote:On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote:This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes
but guys, guys, guys...
rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME!
Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. If what Palmar is doing could be considered contribution, I wouldn't have a problem here. Like I said, he hasn't done anything of substance. What exactly has Palmar contributed? Also, why do you think Palmar is town? Do you agree with his reads? well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 02:00 Snickers wrote:
let me defend myself then say im not defending myself
let me bitch about people not doing anything and then proceed to do prty much nothing and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote:
what is with you defending yourself more than anything else Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 19:41 Snickers wrote:
whoa u didnt fall for the trap of defending urself again. the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid On July 26 2015 03:18 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 03:17 GlowingBear wrote:On July 26 2015 03:13 KelsierSC wrote:On July 26 2015 03:03 FirmTofu wrote:On July 26 2015 03:00 KelsierSC wrote:On July 26 2015 02:56 Palmar wrote:On July 26 2015 02:55 FirmTofu wrote:On July 26 2015 02:50 Palmar wrote:This is kinda scummy. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i am also a cop. On July 25 2015 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i mean detective fuck OP's are hard to read. The reason being is that the latter post tries too hard to make it obvious his claim is bullshit. It's more likely that mafia would semi-waffle on their claim or make it weaker than a townie who is just trolling. On July 25 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:On July 25 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
beautiful warm day
birds chirping
bugs chirring
the chlorine didn't burn out my eyes
but guys, guys, guys...
rayn is scuuum ^^ he totes just scumslipped and i'm totes 100% serious ^^ guys! guys! guys! listen to me... lol more seriously, i dunnae, bf...that's a bit too obvious to really mean anything, don't you think? -fades back into the ether- This is also kinda scummy for almost the same reason. The overemphasis that it's a joke. I'm not going to try to hang either of them based on only this, but at least it's something. On July 25 2015 07:50 GlowingBear wrote:
OH IS A POST RESTRICTED GAME!
Don't worry, we still have a storage with Onegu This is more likely to be townbear, I can't explain exactly why and it's super weak. Just to give you an idea if everyone starts at 50/100 on the mafia scale, the people I've mentioned so far are just a few points above or below null. If I reach a strong read this readthrough I'll be sure to let you know. Speak of the devil. Translation: "Hey, this guy looks a little scummy and this guy looks a little towny. Don't lynch me and let me go back to my mafia corner." Why are you giving us your town reads? How does that help us find mafia? This post you made here was completely pointless. There is nothing of substance here. Shut up Lol I think palmar is town I want to ask snickers why he thinks defending yourself makes you mafia? I was going to say I like the new guy early on but his like second attack on palmar after he posted felt really forced. you scum read palmar for having a "skimpy" (awesome word) filter, now he is here to contribute going crazy on him feels like an overcompensation. I don't like Glowingbear so would happily lynch him. If what Palmar is doing could be considered contribution, I wouldn't have a problem here. Like I said, he hasn't done anything of substance. What exactly has Palmar contributed? Also, why do you think Palmar is town? Do you agree with his reads? well he is here reading the game and giving leans either way on quite a few players. your contribution so far has been to attack palmar for a small filter, and now he is here to attack him again. Like I said it didn't really make sense. From my perspective if I had someone as scum for being skimpy i'd give them more of a chance to post and maybe read some other players, not just tunnel the shit out of them. The way you acted, didn't feel correct. @snickers - You called rsoul mafia for defending herself On July 26 2015 01:59 Snickers wrote:
lol youve done so much scummy shit On July 26 2015 02:00 Snickers wrote:
let me defend myself then say im not defending myself
let me bitch about people not doing anything and then proceed to do prty much nothing and you seemed to have a problem when you thought I was doing it On July 25 2015 19:27 Snickers wrote:
what is with you defending yourself more than anything else On July 25 2015 19:41 Snickers wrote:
whoa u didnt fall for the trap of defending urself again. the fact you even asked me to qualify that statement is suspicous. so tell me why does it make people scummy. GB - because I read your posts and they felt stupid Tell me what's stupid in them. Also, tell me why stupidity is a sign that I'm Mafia. for you it's not I'd still lynch you though On July 26 2015 05:39 KelsierSC wrote:
simple reason why rsoul is angry? probably the same reason i appear "annoyed"
idiots and snickers. but i repeat myself On July 26 2015 21:14 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why does he say his spreadsheet is shitty?
Why would anyone keep a shitty spreadsheet?
Also why does he say there are scummy voters on Hopeless? Who is scummy on Hopeless?
i am apparently not, so it has to be Clarity. I don't know how he ends up in Clarity being mafia when he is voting for the same person (Hopeless) and Clarity thinks Hopeless is mafia. It doesn't make any sense. It also doesn't make any sense he uses a plural on "voters", because it is impossible he thinks more than one person on Hopeless is mafia.
Unless he is lying about his read on me or his read on himself. This is a really good post. Snickers I think you're town and I love the energy you're bringing but Onegu is not the lynch today. I'd lynch Scott or Tofu. Scott is partly because of his early play which I questioned him on and I think rayn's point about his spreadsheet is good. Tofu, his second "push" on palmar felt bad. his secondary scum also felt like he didn't really give a shit "rayn's been quiet"...yeh well it's a post restricted game but rayn had stepped up by that point. Then a throw away bf has a small filter. I don't like obi either People I think are town rayn, rsol, snickers, onegu, palmar there are others that I should try to work out; hopeless, clarity, obi, bf. I want to read more from them. GB you can just say nothing and that would be fine. The progression is this, for people that doesn't want to read the posts: Kelsier says he doesn't like me and he would lynch me happily. I ask him why he doesn't like me. He says everything I post looks stupid. I asked him what is stupid in them and why does that makes me mafia. He said it doesn't make me mafia but he would lynch me anyway, and that he is annoyed because idiots (like me) are annoying him, but never says what are the problems with my posts. He then comes to the thread and says he wants to lynch "hopeless, clarity, obi and bf", not wanting to lynch me. It's simple: he said he didn't like me hoping to have me as an option for mislynch. When I confront it, he says I look stupid but he forgets it's something he doesn't believe is alignment indicative for me. Then he says he would lynch me anyway implying that I annoy him. Well, I wasn't raising suspicions on him since that time. Now I've being pressuring him for the rest of day1 and he doesn't want to lynch me anymore LOL. He is not annoyed with it. What I mean with this is: his actions does not follows his discourse, which is mostly a scum trait. Add to this the fact that he answers almost NOTHING of my posts directed to him. He just deflects them, adding to point (2) of this case.4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTTHE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity). IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!! + Show Spoiler [WIFOM] + Points on Kelsier were brought many times and no one quickly jumped on it, not even Scott, who was suspicions on Kelsier in the first place. The quick and unreasonable town reads Kelsier got points out that scum didn't want him as a possible mislynch. I am POSITIVE Kelsier is mafia. Vote him with me. ##Vote: KelsierSC 1. I didn't "constantly whine about wasting posts" I made one comment because it was a stupid point and boxerfred couldn't look up a game from last week. At the time I posted "everyone was playing shit" I didn't have one single person as town because people kept posting stupid things. 2. I thought scott had posted scummy things, I quoted something he posted that didn't make sense. I'm giving scum leans snickers posting wasn't productive so I ended that whole argument 3. You are an idiot, that is why I would lynch you, it doesn't matter your alignment. If you are mafia I would happily lynch you. If you are town, you are a complete imbecile who will spout nonsense and actively harm town, for example , making terrible cases against people who are town. so I would happily lynch you. 4. I would lynch tofu or scott, at the time I was in the thread I thought tofu was the better lynch and voted him. you can sit down and be quiet now. Then do work and lynch me. Lynch the imbecile. You fail to point out ONE STUPID ARGUMENT I've brought. And no, I'm not falling for the shit fight invite, I'm sorry. Even if you're town here, you're not worth it. I don't care about lynching you today because I have scum reads. Just assume that everything you post and will ever post in any future game is stupid. Safe bet You are just disrupting town with terrible cases as usual. So be quiet So, another excuse to deflect pushes on you  We are agreed then. You ignore me and I'll advocate your lynch until the end of the game. I answered your "push" with a bullet to the head But go ahead and waste more of town's time. No, you defended yourself against a case that convinced some people that you could be Mafia. They started discussing you so you saw the need to defend yourself. But when I talked to you directly, you never answered. You just asked me to be quiet. And you see, I'm open to listen to why my case is wrong, because I'm not a douche. People are pointing out problems in some points and I'm okay with it. You could simply help me realising I'm wrong, but you decide to antagonise me without any reason. And I don't remember you being acting this douchey to anyone since your first game here. Which makes me think you are either Mafia or having serious IRL problems you're just a massive twat with no brain so discussing anything with you is pointless. I answered your case and you are still trying to push it.
ksc
can you please just answer gb's question? if he still pushes it just put him on mute like i did with snickers ^^ until he says something worth commenting on
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On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him? lol you guys love to focus in on this i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_- I ma very good at reading Palmar.
proof or it didn't happen
i trust myself
i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them
i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel
like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?
i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town?
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On July 27 2015 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him? lol you guys love to focus in on this i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_- I ma very good at reading Palmar. proof or it didn't happen i trust myself i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town? here is why rsoultin is mafia.
yeah you're just bad, okay -_- no i don't trust your palmar half read based on association
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On July 27 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Me being whatever (i am actually good) at reading her is not a reason to doubt my read on Palmar.
Those two things are unrelated. She is using an argument that has nothing to do with what i say about Palmar to discredit me.
if you're town you will listen to me
if you are not town you may succeed in mislynching me again which would be fucking infuriating, but everyone else will take note
yes, you are or at least keep insisting that you are actually good at reading me...i actually have seen no evidence of this apart from titanic since you rolled scum in all 3 of the last 3 games we played together
but if you're this fucking wrong on me who you're supposed to actually have an inkling of how to read, and i think that palmar is objectively much harder to read than i could ever be, then clearly your reads can't be trusted
ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT SCUMREADING US BECAUSE WE WANT TO LYNCH CLARITY OVER TOFU?!
because if you are you're being fucking idiotic
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On July 27 2015 05:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Let's settle on Scott. I really think he might be Mafia
##Vote: Scott
explain why over clarity and make it good
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-_- tofu you'd do better to shut up; that post makes me want to lynch you on principle
eh i get what you're saying, ksc, but the difference is clarity is the only one i strongly feel is scum...i don't even really want to lynch scott? like that whole oh he did a list post thing...so fucking what? he just did it in gaiden? you know? i dunnae -_- i won't stop a lynch on scott or tofu but i really want clarity
i think there's very little chance clarity flips town
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On July 27 2015 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:00 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Me being whatever (i am actually good) at reading her is not a reason to doubt my read on Palmar.
Those two things are unrelated. She is using an argument that has nothing to do with what i say about Palmar to discredit me. if you're town you will listen to me if you are not town you may succeed in mislynching me again which would be fucking infuriating, but everyone else will take note yes, you are or at least keep insisting that you are actually good at reading me...i actually have seen no evidence of this apart from titanic since you rolled scum in all 3 of the last 3 games we played together but if you're this fucking wrong on me who you're supposed to actually have an inkling of how to read, and i think that palmar is objectively much harder to read than i could ever be, then clearly your reads can't be trusted ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT SCUMREADING US BECAUSE WE WANT TO LYNCH CLARITY OVER TOFU?! because if you are you're being fucking idiotic I am scumreading you because you aren't doing shit and saying dumb things and/or using dumb narratives to discredit my thoughts. I am being, like i have been, honest here, i lynched you in the other game because you were scummy. You were. Obviously you were town, but you weren't doing shit. Obviously that was because you were playing two games at once and didn't have time but it does not change the fact you didn't do shit. You are not doing shit here. I don't find any intelligent comments from you. I just fucking don't. Palmar goes to same pile. I actually hold you two in the highest regards in the players in this game. I cannot understand why netiher of you cannot fucking see why what FirmTofu is doing is scummy as fuck and i cannot understand how you can possibly think Clarity is a better lynch than FT just because he is inactive. Like feel free to go ahead and lynch Clarity, i am telling you he will flip fucking town. FirmTofu will not. Kelsier will flip town. I have no idea what Scott will flip. So yeah. It doesn't help i have to wake up at 4 am so i REALLY gotta go in like 15 minutes.
yeah screw you ^^
i'm a tonereader. you have to wait a cycle cause i don't trust fucking inconsistency arguments that you so love to make because HALF THE TIME THEY MEAN NOTHING
i ASKED you to explain your read better and you couldn't. try
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On July 27 2015 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:10 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 05:00 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Me being whatever (i am actually good) at reading her is not a reason to doubt my read on Palmar.
Those two things are unrelated. She is using an argument that has nothing to do with what i say about Palmar to discredit me. if you're town you will listen to me if you are not town you may succeed in mislynching me again which would be fucking infuriating, but everyone else will take note yes, you are or at least keep insisting that you are actually good at reading me...i actually have seen no evidence of this apart from titanic since you rolled scum in all 3 of the last 3 games we played together but if you're this fucking wrong on me who you're supposed to actually have an inkling of how to read, and i think that palmar is objectively much harder to read than i could ever be, then clearly your reads can't be trusted ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT SCUMREADING US BECAUSE WE WANT TO LYNCH CLARITY OVER TOFU?! because if you are you're being fucking idiotic I am scumreading you because you aren't doing shit and saying dumb things and/or using dumb narratives to discredit my thoughts. I am being, like i have been, honest here, i lynched you in the other game because you were scummy. You were. Obviously you were town, but you weren't doing shit. Obviously that was because you were playing two games at once and didn't have time but it does not change the fact you didn't do shit. You are not doing shit here. I don't find any intelligent comments from you. I just fucking don't. Palmar goes to same pile. I actually hold you two in the highest regards in the players in this game. I cannot understand why netiher of you cannot fucking see why what FirmTofu is doing is scummy as fuck and i cannot understand how you can possibly think Clarity is a better lynch than FT just because he is inactive. Like feel free to go ahead and lynch Clarity, i am telling you he will flip fucking town. FirmTofu will not. Kelsier will flip town. I have no idea what Scott will flip. So yeah. It doesn't help i have to wake up at 4 am so i REALLY gotta go in like 15 minutes. yeah screw you ^^ i'm a tonereader. you have to wait a cycle cause i don't trust fucking inconsistency arguments that you so love to make because HALF THE TIME THEY MEAN NOTHING i ASKED you to explain your read better and you couldn't. try he isn't making any sense his reads do not progress logically his read on Palmar is shit nstead of trying to find/lynch mafia he wants to lynch whoever he can (see fucking Kelsier - Palmar reads of his)
meh i'll filter-dive him, okay? and if i think he's as likely to flip scum as clarity i'll push him myself for the info
mostly because of that shit post at the top of the page lol ><
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On July 27 2015 05:20 FirmTofu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 05:17 FirmTofu wrote:On July 27 2015 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 05:10 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 05:00 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Me being whatever (i am actually good) at reading her is not a reason to doubt my read on Palmar.
Those two things are unrelated. She is using an argument that has nothing to do with what i say about Palmar to discredit me. if you're town you will listen to me if you are not town you may succeed in mislynching me again which would be fucking infuriating, but everyone else will take note yes, you are or at least keep insisting that you are actually good at reading me...i actually have seen no evidence of this apart from titanic since you rolled scum in all 3 of the last 3 games we played together but if you're this fucking wrong on me who you're supposed to actually have an inkling of how to read, and i think that palmar is objectively much harder to read than i could ever be, then clearly your reads can't be trusted ARE YOU OR ARE YOU NOT SCUMREADING US BECAUSE WE WANT TO LYNCH CLARITY OVER TOFU?! because if you are you're being fucking idiotic I am scumreading you because you aren't doing shit and saying dumb things and/or using dumb narratives to discredit my thoughts. I am being, like i have been, honest here, i lynched you in the other game because you were scummy. You were. Obviously you were town, but you weren't doing shit. Obviously that was because you were playing two games at once and didn't have time but it does not change the fact you didn't do shit. You are not doing shit here. I don't find any intelligent comments from you. I just fucking don't. Palmar goes to same pile. I actually hold you two in the highest regards in the players in this game. I cannot understand why netiher of you cannot fucking see why what FirmTofu is doing is scummy as fuck and i cannot understand how you can possibly think Clarity is a better lynch than FT just because he is inactive. Like feel free to go ahead and lynch Clarity, i am telling you he will flip fucking town. FirmTofu will not. Kelsier will flip town. I have no idea what Scott will flip. So yeah. It doesn't help i have to wake up at 4 am so i REALLY gotta go in like 15 minutes. yeah screw you ^^ i'm a tonereader. you have to wait a cycle cause i don't trust fucking inconsistency arguments that you so love to make because HALF THE TIME THEY MEAN NOTHING i ASKED you to explain your read better and you couldn't. try he isn't making any sense his reads do not progress logically his read on Palmar is shit nstead of trying to find/lynch mafia he wants to lynch whoever he can (see fucking Kelsier - Palmar reads of his) bitch please. I know I'm town. I know I'm probably going to get lynched. I am basically forced to vote for anyone other than me. yeah and you jsut fucking said you don't care if you get lynched.... It's fine if I get lynched, just not optimal. Do you want me to vote for myself? The only way I survive is to vote for the biggest wagon that isn't me at this point.
see my problem with you before i even open your filter is it was clear palmar wasn't going to be the lynch when you returned to the thread. now, granted, maybe you really did just happen to start thinking he was town right then but it was awfully convenient timing to suddenly find someone else who actually could be lynched scummy and drop the palmar push
it makes me wonder if you made up the townread just to pull off palmar, which a townie wouldn't even feel the need to do, or shouldn't, because it's obvious that they need to lynch the best lynch of the wagons...or push the shit out of their own scumread if it's different
so if in reading your filter i see whatever it was has rayn's panties in such a bunch, yeah, we're gonna lynch you
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On July 27 2015 05:32 Palmar wrote:
Mehh I don't really care.
Logically I shouldn't fight FT's lynch. If he is even a remotely viable human being he is definitely mafia because his entire storyline regarding me is trash and bullshit.
I'm just not sure he is a viable human being.
So whatever. I think clarity has a better chance of flipping scum and my vote stays there, but I'm not gonna defend FT when the only defense to be made for him is "he barely counts as a sentient life-form".
rofl >< you know when i started townreading you? when you said i was town for a post that had "reasoning" by my standards. such an asshole <3 made me laugh
but really i haven't seen a ton to doubt you on anyway
regardless
obviously not moving my vote now...and i really hope clar flips scum and i'm not wrong on my townread on rayn just so i can thumb my nose at him for calling me an idiot and saying i'm not doing anything -_- ass
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hrum ye nvm the thing about not lynching tofu...still gonna take a look at that filter when i can get a spare moment
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lol
ye i still think clarity is more likely to flip scum
i'll lynch ft over scott
look, obi...yeah he's afkish
but he literally comes in without a read on rayn, says he'll sheep him (yes it can be assumed he's townreading rayn there cause otherwise it makes no fucking sense) and jumps on the hopeless wagon who, if i recall, was the only real non-retarded push at the time. sheeping implies he has no read on the guy yet he starts "championing" this push on hopeless while snickers is tunneling me which felt really off...like seriously if hopeless ever flips scum it's highly likely clar is scum for that alone
then he comes back in with that big post on why he thinks hopeless is scum (which essentially is really no different from what he first said, just that hopeless' first post felt "forced") like, if the guy isn't going to be around today, you really think he puts in NO WORK, sheeps someone who he may or may not have even have had a townread on, then pretends his read on hopeless was strong by parroting what he said in the first place, which was essentially parroting what RAYN said in the first place?
we all just got out of a game with clarity. you really think this is his town game? i don't
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okay? so what makes you so confident? i glanced through your filter (admittedly not very thoroughly) and couldn't find it, obi
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On July 27 2015 06:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Anyways I'm going to vote FT.
My biggest issue with him was that he came up with all of these reasons to vote Palmar, but disappeared after throwing his vote down. Not only did it feel very token, but he did so at a time where the VC looked really terrible in terms of vote spread.
I'm also willing to switch to scott but I don't know how much more I can say about him that hasn't already been done to death.
thanks. ye, true, his filter was very palmar focused up until the point thread sentiment swung against him. i'm just able to see most of that coming from town, just the same? won't try to argue you out of it though i'd be happier lynching clarity lol
@bf
ye, snickers is hard to swallow a lot of times. unfortunately that doesn't make him scum; in fact i'm fairly confident he's town
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i'd rather hear scott's explanation first
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good god gb ><
he only had clarity at null/slight scum and said his vote was suspicious -_-
On July 27 2015 06:11 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. I must say I also think it could be possible Scott, who are the Mafia doing that? I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.) Cool What about the people you think are Mafia? Boxerfred - His vote/post on me was pretty bad, I don't see his town direction - and he wants the Clarity lynch, who I think is town (or at least townier than these two, tofu and boxer) The third I have no idea on - prby a vet. I'd switch to boxer instead of Tofu - I'm just not seeing the Clarity points others are showing.
then this, and he goes into clarity's filter and changes his mind? that doesn't seem so horrible?
scott, what was townie about clarity when you said the post i quoted?
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On July 27 2015 06:35 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him? lol you guys love to focus in on this i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_- I ma very good at reading Palmar. proof or it didn't happen i trust myself i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town? here is why rsoultin is mafia. Man my and rayn's reads are in fucking sync this game
then you're both awful or mafia ^^ probably awful
do something useful
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On July 27 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:36 rsoultin wrote:good god gb >< he only had clarity at null/slight scum and said his vote was suspicious -_- On July 27 2015 06:11 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. I must say I also think it could be possible Scott, who are the Mafia doing that? I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.) Cool What about the people you think are Mafia? Boxerfred - His vote/post on me was pretty bad, I don't see his town direction - and he wants the Clarity lynch, who I think is town (or at least townier than these two, tofu and boxer) The third I have no idea on - prby a vet. I'd switch to boxer instead of Tofu - I'm just not seeing the Clarity points others are showing. then this, and he goes into clarity's filter and changes his mind? that doesn't seem so horrible? scott, what was townie about clarity when you said the post i quoted? It is horrible when he says Mafia is taking votes off of tofu but does not consider people forming the clarity wagon? It is horrible because if he thinks tofu is mafis he should instantly believe clarity is town under that circumstances, but he dives and say he could lynch clarity but does not reevaluate his read on tofu?In a vacuum, his flip isn't horrible. What is problematic is his thought process
ummm why does him thinking clarity could be mafia mean he has to think tofu is town? i get the other way around but it's like you took this an extra step without thinking it through
if he thinks clarity could be mafia then it doesn't matter who is trying to lynch clarity, and it doesn't mean he can't think that tofu is scum, too? it just means it doesn't make sense to pursue who is "scum" trying to switch the lynch to clarity?
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