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On July 28 2015 10:34 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 10:29 GlowingBear wrote:On July 28 2015 10:26 rsoultin wrote:On July 28 2015 10:23 GlowingBear wrote:On July 28 2015 10:18 rsoultin wrote:
8/80
yeah of course scum is going to say sheep town!rayn on town!rsoul
you better fucking come up with your own reason for scumreading me or you're next when i flip town ^^ This is your worst post in the game tbh 10/80 lynch me, then and when i flip town lynch fucking hopeless and clarity and if they're not scum look to palmar i know i'm town town may well play the part of stupid sheep, but his complete and utter lack of reasoning beyond rayn saying so is scummy as hell, and considering i wasn't townreading him before, i really could care less what you think about that post So lynch palmar? Why are you so defeatist instead of pointing out why palmar is scum and ACTUALLY trying to lynch him? You're wasting your breath just to defend yourself and call people bad, dear. Let's catch scum instead? 12/80 the worst part is i'm not sure that this even makes palmar scum? though admittedly his dropping the clarity read like a load of bricks doesn't look good -_- i don't know anymore i have a really hard time reading people when they're scumreading me because my natural reaction is to think they're scum, especially if the reasons are this stupid i've made my case on clarity and i'm pointing out why i think hopeless is scummy for this i'm not being defeatist? mostly i'm just kind of frustrated that i have to deal with fucking bullshit when i'm trying to figure out this game
I find it amusing that the case against clarity is almost identical to the case against me. Clarity might actually be scum.
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On July 28 2015 10:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 10:29 Hopeless1der wrote:On July 28 2015 10:26 GlowingBear wrote:On July 28 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you're shit at reading Palmar but i am wrong on him? lol you guys love to focus in on this i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_- I ma very good at reading Palmar. proof or it didn't happen i trust myself i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town? here is why rsoultin is mafia. I said this before and i say this again. I don't care to google the english words for what this is, look at foolishness' post about "book of bad arguments". "I cant trust your other reads because you cant even read me here". I am serious i have never seen rsoultin say anything this stupid in a game of mafia. She is scum, i dont care what she posts. This is enough. Palmar is also scum. Here, hopeless. yeah, my quote was earlier. good try bud. Lets move on. On July 27 2015 04:43 FirmTofu wrote:
Calling this game now. Mafia team is Clarity, scott, and Kelsier. It's just so perfect. Who thinks there are scum in that list? I think those are all townies. Because?
reasons....but i just read your filter and you're townier than clarity and kelsier...so much for that.
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On July 28 2015 10:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 10:40 Hopeless1der wrote:On July 28 2015 10:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 28 2015 10:29 Hopeless1der wrote:On July 28 2015 10:26 GlowingBear wrote:On July 28 2015 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:54 rsoultin wrote:On July 27 2015 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 27 2015 04:48 rsoultin wrote:
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lol you guys love to focus in on this
i've told you why i think he's town and i've admitted i could be wrong cause i know i'm not good at reading him. so what? like, do you have a case on palmar i didn't see? i'm not just going to sheep you on him when i think he's town and i have no clue if i should trust your read over mine because i don't know how good you are at reading him. i suspect not very. he's fucking palmar -_- I ma very good at reading Palmar. proof or it didn't happen i trust myself i trust certain players on particular other players if i'm townreading them i trust a townread palmar's d1 reads to some extent if i at least get a similar feel like, seriously, how can you expect me to trust you when you're not even sure and you're scumreading me in the same breath for god knows what reason?i suspect association, personally, which just makes me want to facepalm. maybe you're right on tofu but i really think clarity is the better lynch today because i see scum there where tofu could just be bad town? here is why rsoultin is mafia. I said this before and i say this again. I don't care to google the english words for what this is, look at foolishness' post about "book of bad arguments". "I cant trust your other reads because you cant even read me here". I am serious i have never seen rsoultin say anything this stupid in a game of mafia. She is scum, i dont care what she posts. This is enough. Palmar is also scum. Here, hopeless. yeah, my quote was earlier. good try bud. Lets move on. On July 27 2015 04:43 FirmTofu wrote:
Calling this game now. Mafia team is Clarity, scott, and Kelsier. It's just so perfect. Who thinks there are scum in that list? I think those are all townies. Because? reasons....but i just read your filter and you're townier than clarity and kelsier...so much for that. I was talking about how you came to the conclusion as to how FT's scumlist was all town.
I told you, "reasons".
scott for cop check shennanies, kelsier for filter, clarity because he seemed to care too little about what happens to him over the night. The latter 2 are pretty weak, especially with me doing the analysis.
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On July 28 2015 10:49 Snickers wrote:
Yea Obi time to explain ur scummy play during the night buddy
wait wut?
Does the post restriction apply to a given day or does each cycle add 80 posts? i.e. do I have 80 posts for Day2 or (Whatever was left from Day1) plus 80?
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snickers:
obiwans reads changed from his cop recommendations to calling those recommendations town. Now shut the fuck up and move on.
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On July 28 2015 12:34 Snickers wrote:
so i go from top two scum to top two town....
righttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
when i was specfically trying to be scummy in the night to not get night killed lol
You're an idiot. Like how could you possibly think you were getting killed?
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No, he's replying to boxerfred who skimmed your spam session about obiwans night posting and saw "I want to lynch clarity or hopeless". It wasnt a current thought and it confused boxerfred because obiwan is currently voting palmar.
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man i dont want to have to try. you guys suck 
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On July 29 2015 09:41 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 09:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 29 2015 09:40 Snickers wrote:
I like how onegu implies he has done something townie since his claim lol But he claimed though!  This is also true
Snickers gave your credit for claiming. Its everything after the claim that he is questioning....reading comprehension, does anyone have it anymore?
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i guess theres no leveraging my scumminess when everyone wants to lynch me. o welp, i'll have to tryhard at some point.
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Snickers, keep whatever posts you want in a notepad file, i'll give you a couple posts tomorrow so you can avoid spamming the thread with your usual garbage. One concentrated dose that we can easily ignore would be just great though.
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On July 29 2015 13:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 13:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
Snickers, keep whatever posts you want in a notepad file, i'll give you a couple posts tomorrow so you can avoid spamming the thread with your usual garbage. One concentrated dose that we can easily ignore would be just great though.
No pls.
How the fuck is this productive in any way? Are you kidding me?
##vote: boxerfred
+ Show Spoiler [reasoning] +I am certain that one of boxerfred/GB are mafia, if not both. I'm much more inclined to lynch boxerfred atm. On July 27 2015 07:05 Half the Sky wrote:Night 1(edited for vote tracker) Final Day 1 Vote Count FirmTofu (6): raynpelikoneet, Onegu, KelsierSC, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, scott31337, GlowingBear, Palmar scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofuclarity_nl (1): rsoultin, Palmar, rsoultin, SnickersHopeless1der (1): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337boxerfred (1): Snickers, Snickers KelsierSC (0): Snickers, GlowingBear, FirmTofuraynpelikoneet (0): Palmarrsoultin (0): Onegu, Snickerspalmar (0): FirmTofu
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On July 29 2015 21:34 KelsierSC wrote:
We should consolidate
Anyone who voted ft is off the table
I don't want to lynch rsol at all I think she's town.
So hopeless,GB or Bf are your choices,
I think Bf is town though.
Hopeless has done absolutely nothing and his play is uninspiring. Fits scum profile.
Le go
Fits profile, isn't scum. I'm the poster child for scummy town.
why do you have bf as town? I'd like to lynch him
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On July 29 2015 23:37 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 23:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 29 2015 22:34 Hopeless1der wrote:On July 29 2015 21:34 KelsierSC wrote:
We should consolidate
Anyone who voted ft is off the table
I don't want to lynch rsol at all I think she's town.
So hopeless,GB or Bf are your choices,
I think Bf is town though.
Hopeless has done absolutely nothing and his play is uninspiring. Fits scum profile.
Le go Fits profile, isn't scum. I'm the poster child for scummy town. why do you have bf as town? I'd like to lynch him Can't quote but I liked his tone and his response to some questions. Plus his exasperation is understandable. No its not its way over the top
yeah i am in full agreement with onegu on this one.
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ughhhhhhh i dont know which of boxer and gb i want to lynch first
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nah i like GB's thought process on scott. I want boxer dead.
On July 29 2015 02:43 boxerfred wrote:
I'm not too sure on a Palmar lynch however. Would still prefer Clarity. The flip would probably give us a lot of information.
No indication as to what information, just...information? How about, because you think he's scum?
On July 29 2015 05:25 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:46 Onegu wrote:
You are all Dumb or me and rayn were the only town this game. YOU WANT TO FUCKING LYNCH ME?!!! LYNCH FUCKING ONEGU? THE CONFIRMED TOWN. YOU EVEN ALL SAY YOU BELIEVE MY CLAIM BUT WANT TO LYNCH ME ANYWAY. THE GUY WHO WAS THE FIRST TO SAY HE DIDNT LIKE FT AND THE SECOND PERSON TO VOTE HIM?
end rant
I guess palmar looks ok, not good for putting it out there
BF looks terrible for agreeing with it.
"im confirmed town and won't bother playing the game now and simply lurk" gtfo, back to your lurk grounds.
Super not townie demeanor dealing with onegu. And onegu is like 95% town off the claim alone.
+ Show Spoiler [Look how much work I did you guys, I w…] +On July 29 2015 17:04 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 12:55 Snickers wrote:GLOW BEAR IS MAFA
gb is mafia because he hard defended firm tofu day one and did not push scott. if you asked gb he would say snickers is a fucking dumbass and he pushed scott but lets look at the details.
gb comes with an interesting time with his kelsier push. it could be seen as a time to start a kelsier wagon in order to protect firm tofu. but thats not too scummy.
as the day goes on gb votes fly everywhere from keslier to firm tofu to scott. he also talks about wanting to lynch clarity.
at the end of the day here are the final votes
On July 27 2015 07:05 Half the Sky wrote:Night 1(edited for vote tracker) Final Day 1 Vote Count FirmTofu (6): raynpelikoneet, Onegu, KelsierSC, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, scott31337, GlowingBear, Palmar scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu clarity_nl (1): rsoultin, Palmar, rsoultin, SnickersHopeless1der (1): raynpelikoneet, Clarity_nl, scott31337boxerfred (1): Snickers, Snickers KelsierSC (0): Snickers, GlowingBear, FirmTofuraynpelikoneet (0): Palmarrsoultin (0): Onegu, Snickerspalmar (0): FirmTofuAs the wind blows, FirmTofu is staring death in the face.
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before the final votes gb claims he pushed scott hard but in reality he defended firm tofu. Why?
because this is a list of the people he asked to not vote firm tofu and to go to scott.
Rayn, Palmar, kelsier
he also told rayn to vote clairty earlier and he told palmar to vote kelsier earlier. all over the place with who to lynch but not who to not lynch.
ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY
he never asks me, clarity or rsoultin to switch are votes to scott. Why wouldnt he if he wanted scott to be lynched?
gb also claims kelsier can not be scum because firm tofu pushed him. but firmtofu also pushed scott.
i think this was a way to not seem like for it to be scummy to ask kelsier to switch to scott. cause why ask scum read from day one (who you posted a huge post on) to go to scott. Like, really? Not like that is what I brought up earlier. + Show Spoiler +On July 28 2015 02:39 boxerfred wrote:I actually think we should go for someone who tried to stop the scum train: scott31337 (4): boxerfred, Hopeless1der, FirmTofu, GlowingBear, FirmTofu That would include me. So, regarding me: - I'm town. Har har, I can tell from my role PM. - I was the first on scott so technically, I didn't jump a train but instead stayed on who I chose to vote for. Hopeless1ider: Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 08:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
Anyone interested in contesting the claims or are we going to just ignore that? For reference, my thoughts are onegu good, rayn indifferent.
I also don't get how Palmar literally claiming Mafia is conducive to being "blunt and to the point" as town.
Or kenpachI ruling people. Someone teach me how to kenpachI rule.
This is really a concerning post. Like "interested in contesting" - the usage of this word implies that the claim is not legit. Also while it appears like a proactive thing, trying to raise interest, there is no follow up to it when such thoughts didn't get much grip. Reading his filter: He says something on palmar, then on scott (casts his vote on him), a bit on Onegut ("Null/town lean") and a bit of blabla ("can't read him") on Rayn. Lots of flailing, nothing that's really helpful for town, not in the slightest tbh. GlowingBear: Well he did a huge case on Kelsier D1, biggest argument being Show nested quote +4) HE IS VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT
HE IS FUCKING VOTING TOFU INSTEAD OF SCOTT. SCOTT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO ANNOY HIM (AND KELSIER WOULD LYNCH PEOPLE DOING THAT)! Why he doesn't prefer a scott lynch? Hell, a lot of people thinks he is mafia! Instead of going against the guy that certainly looked as mafia for him, he is going against questionmark!Tofu. More than that, he wasn't advocating for a lynch on Scott, but opened a range of possible lynches he would go against (tofu, scott, obi, clarity).
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, PEOPLE! COME ON!!! Well. That'd be a bit of way-too-hardcore bussing wouldn't it? Although I think KSC actually is capable of doing it, he bussed and double bussed in Gaiden, too. However how likely is it to role scum twice in a row? Not too likely. I know this is not bullet proof but it's another indicator of KSC being town. However, his case doesn't get grip. But by that time, Tofu has 5 votes upon him and it becomes rather likely that he'd be the lynch! GB knows that, he already soft defends Tofu: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 04:33 rsoultin wrote:
@ GB
1. he's used his posts to contribute and make reads - point is wrong
2. could be if the point is the very last sentence...but i interpreted it as him saying that (scott? i think it was?) shouldn't be shutting down my reads just because he thought ksc was "scummiest"
3. yeah, null read is null here still - point is wrong
4. you're still stuck on "annoyance" meaning that ksc thinks you're scum - point is wrong
the only point that holds any water here, gb, is the second, just as rayn said, and frankly i can still easily see it coming from town so it doesn't outweigh all the things that i think makes ksc town this game Well, I think point 2 is damning enough. I can get what you're saying about the others. But, as I stated, he repeatedly deflected pressure. It wasn't only on that post. He never answered my other pushes on him, he shut snickers down too. I think it's very damning I don't see the points on tofu. I do see the point on scott Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:00 GlowingBear wrote:
Rayn we have so much information to deal with tofu tomorrow. Scott and clarity are way better lynches Then, he joins the train: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Nah actually I'm voting tofu
I just saw that he is clearly voting every other wagon other than him.
##vote: FirmTofu He does that, being the 6th vote. He brings up a totally NEW reason though, like as if he had to justify why he jumps the train on Tofu. However 20 minutes later, he again starts soft defending Tofu, indirectly: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, lynch Scott
Or, if you want to do the correct thing, lynch keksier Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Town isn't bad, any of these options are okay lynches, I just think we have better targets other than tofu (I.e. Scummy lurkers)
The possibility of having a Mafia between one of those is high Also, note how he says "scummy lurkers" without any follow up though. Like, 0 follow up. Next up, scott: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. I must say I also think it could be possible Scott, who are the Mafia doing that? So the guy he wants to hang (of course along with KSC) says something about an obscure feeling and GB simply asks who scott is referring to? Well, GB (as quoted above!) actually says quite a lot of times that Tofu is not a good lynch. That clarity is better. Kelsier is better. Scott is better. How is he so sure? He then goes on with some words on mafia trying to get another train than tofu running. And BOOM, GB tries to get another train starting: Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:28 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:40 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 04:44 KelsierSC wrote:
I thought scott was scummy, I posted a quote of his that was scummy.
Yes superb evidence, it really makes me look "terrible"
can we lynch tofu already. [red]Why do I get this feeling we are right on Tofu and mafia are trying to get us to swap? On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. [red]Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. On July 27 2015 05:57 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:51 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 05:49 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 05:25 Snickers wrote:
unless you have a very very very very strong read as scott mafia get off of him and vote clarity.
unless you have a very strong read on tofu get off of him.
if you have a smidgen of thought that clairty could possibly be scum vote him. Tofu is waffling pretty badly right now and I get this mafia feeling to try to pull off of him - so I do have a pretty strong (or strongest) at this time on him. I must say I also think it could be possible Scott, who are the Mafia doing that? I do not know if you are mafia but you seem to be fighting his lynch pretty strongly (posted your case on Kelsier a couple hours ago when it looked like Tofu's getting the noose when maybe it would be better for day 2, asked rayn to vote me, asked palmar to vote me, etc.) On July 27 2015 06:14 scott31337 wrote:
I have just re-read Clarity's filter, never mind it's really bad - a vote on me and a comment on Hopeless's post (although Hopeless did a bit better) and nothing much else.
I could vote for him too. Thought process does not compute. You think Tofu is Mafia Then you say Mafia is trying to take people out of the tofu wagon. The alternate wagon is clarity. I suppose you may think Mafia could be there. But you call Mafia people that were in other wagons and does not consider people that moved to the clarity wagon. You even raise suspicions on me but you don't call me Mafia (?), what's the point then? Then you dive clarity and suddenly he is bad? What about Mafia protecting tofu by forming another wagon????? Your thought process makes no sense and it completely fits Mafia perspective GUYS VOTE SCOTT PLEASE Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, if you THINK Mafia is trying to take votes off of Mafia!Tofu you MUST consider they are forming the alternate wagon INSTEAD of ignoring people forming the alternate wagon and placing votes somewhere else. There is no other option
EVEN if you believed in what you just said, it would make me completely Mafia, and not just something you would say "I don't know you're Mafia". Then other Mafia are boxerfred (?) and PROBABLY A VET? Why a vet, which vet, why not me.
Then you simply say you could lynch clarity, man. You just said Mafia was taking votes off of tofu.
You can't me town.
PEOPLE PLEASE, SCOTT CAN'T BE TOWN Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:On July 27 2015 06:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah we don't have the people to switch to scott.
Even then I still want to lynch FT.
Let's go with that. This is bullshit, we only need 3 more votes on scott Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:
God!!! It's so clear his thought process is fabricsted!!!!! Fucking vote him!!!!! So yeah. I'm pretty convinced that GB is scum.
But I'm not going to vote for the player I made this super awesome case on.
On July 29 2015 17:11 boxerfred wrote:
I missed the Hope wagon starting but I joined it.
nowait i changed my mind
On July 29 2015 18:34 boxerfred wrote:
oh yeah and #vote gb
On July 29 2015 18:39 boxerfred wrote:
lynch gb + onegu, probably we'll be fine then
I have no problem with GB's push against scott though. Look at snicker's case on GB and how he says he "never pushed scott". (The spoiler above has snicker's and bf's case). BF's case is built on the fact that GB WAS pushing scott super hard to defend FT. They are completely contradictory but BF doesnt give a shit what snickers said, just that it was on a target that he already made a (imo bad) case on. Look at where his votes went today. I dont get the feeling he cares who gets lynched or that he actually wants GB to die. He just keeps quoting the same post he made on "people who tried to stop the scum train".
Like I consider GB trying to get his target (scott) lynched way more townie than boxer (and myself) parking our votes and afking the rest of the day.
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On July 30 2015 00:47 Palmar wrote:
also your vote count analysis thing is awful. Go back and look at a few games, if you're gonna accuse anyone of being mafia based on the votecount it'd have to be clarity, rsoultin or snickers for failing to do shit with their votes.
i assume this is for me. Am I completely wrong in thinking mafia made SOME attempt to save FT?
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so snickers just burns through posts because he doesnt care...wtf, why dont we have a vig.
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I'm the Breshke.
Scott is town.
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On July 30 2015 01:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hopeless, what do you think of what Gb just said about your green check?
Makes me want to lynch him
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