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Onegu
United States9699 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
and i'm like, fully aware how difficult doing that is likely to be and i'm likely to get mislynched in the process cause you know green check and shit but...i dunnae i kinda think everyone else is town? like, i need to reread the lynch around ft to see if oneg really had much of a choice, but i know i don't want to lynch gb/ows so...ye | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Rayn said that you looked bad because he thinks you're smart and you couldn't react a certain way. I partially agree with this (I think you're smart but you COULD react the way you reacted to him) You've been arguing that the game doesn't have a godfather but probably a goon goon. You said this most of the time. Now that Palmar is dead you want to push scott. But you just said a lot that he is probably town for the green check. And here what bothers me: I usually go for my scum reads even if I face a lot of counter-arguments. I rely on WIFOM scenarios, sometimes. For instance, I think scott could be the godfather. That's me. I've NEVER seen you going through that direction. You're usually more like "GB, you know this is WIFOM". You're just saying to me that a green check from a confirmed cop is less reliable than a named VT claim. You're also saying that OWS is so town to you that a confirmed green check is less reliable than having OWS lynched. Revisit the reasons why you call OWS town. I've been thinking it myself and I can actually remember it well. It was something that I said "okay, I can't see OWS saying this as Mafia", and I actually started townreading you after you had the same opinion. That mind meld was so real that I couldn't see you coming from Mafia perspective at that time. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Mafia rsoultin: over agressively tone, weird reactions, odd voting patterns and shift of reads after clarity lynch. All I remember is that you wanted to lynch clarity but I don't remember you trying to find Mafia after that. Not like how you did regarding clarity. Actually, I can easily see you going after you useless AFK scum partner just to have him dead and get townread for that. The fact that you never read me as mafia day1 is also weird because when you have me a town pass it was before I was giving my town tell (voting like a popcorn). I remember this clearly. Town rsoultin: effortful, reevaluating reads, not going through the path of least resistance (you had no reason to read me as town and you had no reason to read OWS as town either), pushing a Mafia since day1. <hr> Mafia OWS: just asking questions and not actually putting town on the right track as he normally does as town (I expected more posts like: "Mafia never does this", "this is WIFOM" and other stuff). He basically ask questions without follow ups here. For example, when I brought suspicions on him, he asked my intention, I answered "I think we should discuss every player" and his interest in this stopped here. He never pushed that matter any further. I also never saw obi this game having a strong scum read on people. All I saw was him sheeping (as far as I remember). Town OWS: some posts felt like that could only come from town. I can't remember them, though. <hr> Mafia scott: all my points against him still stands to this point Town scott: he has a green check. Period <hr> Mafia Onegu: he is Onegu. Town Onegu: he parked his vote on a scum partner and never changed it. I clearly remember Onegu, as scum, saving a scum partner to hammer town. <hr> In other words, dear, I have better reasons to believe Onegu and scott are town instead of you and OWS are town. So the lynch must be between you. Palmar's death actually implicates OWS. But that looks too easy. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On August 05 2015 10:33 rsoultin wrote: ye so we have a problem i have a collection of townreads and a scum to find, and i'm more inclined to trust the strength of the reads based on behavior over claims/role actions y'all aren't going to like me for bringing this up, but i think we may have to seriously consider scott independent of the green check and take into account that ft may have bussed a scummate for the wifom if nothing else is true, it's certainly true that scott's investment in this game after getting "confirmed" has been practically nill onegu's as well, but the difference is onegu's claim will eventually come to kick him in the ass if he's scum (making it even more unlikely for him to make it) and he's not exactly known for investment even as town -_- eh i'll consider palmar, gb, and ows but only if someone has something i'm missing, something powerful, that makes them scum? that's where i'm at before the reread i may or may not get to before EoN. with palmar it's tonal and i'm def not 100% on it but at some point i just have to...stop...waffling back and forth on the what-ifs this was my first post of real content immediately following the lynch, gb you say i haven't "scumhunt"? like, are you serious? i wrote the case on snickers everyone sheeped i wrote the case on palmar and yes i wrote a case on bf as well what's more relevant than any of that is when bf started posting things that made me doubt he was scum d2, i'm the one who said, can we still lynch slam? i started the shenanigans on scum if you're town, gb, and i think you are, you know that i could have left the wagon between two town mislynches and my "scum partner" would not have been lynched. you know that you know that i saved both your asses to lynch scum. you can call this wifom if you want, but i am too fucking smart to sit here and instigate a lynch on my last partner when town isn't lynching him anyway. and fuck anyone who thinks otherwise because you're completely insulting my intelligence to even suggest it -_- i've been the most active scumhunter this entire game i lynched scum y'all want to lynch me anyway? okay. be awful. you want to know what pissed me off so much? i've been working my ass off to try to figure out and win this game while most of the rest of y'all laze about, and you guys still want to lynch me for it? it's frustrating and insulting. you. insulted. me. i thought you were town for the first reason i thought you were town, and that was your reaction to ft. i don't think you tell him he's not in the game after his first post if you're sharing a qt together, and ye, since then you've done other things. but if you think the only way i read you is by how you vote? how many fucking times are you going to insult my intelligence this game? i mean, honestly...i caught your smurf not by your votes but by your filter, genius. i don't need something that superficial to make reads or be confident of them and i mentioned this thing about scott before! it's not new! no, i don't think you or obi are scum. and yes, i could go the fucking easy way out and say let's lynch oneg, knowing that people would be more open to it and even if i'm wrong at least i won't get mislynched in lylo by the tard but i didn't because i honestly think the reason this game is so hard, and the reason my poe scumreads keep being town, is that we're giving someone a free pass and have been most of the game which players meet those criteria? onegu and scott if you remove the claim and the green check and look at their actual play, i know that onegu can play this way as town scott doesn't have that luxury this is why i want to lynch scott. i know it's low percentage and i get it, but it's not wifom. it's the opposite of wifom. it's fucking looking at the info available and saying something doesn't fit. why doesn't it fit? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
and damn it, gb you are saying that me and my supposedly "smart" self as scum isn't getting rid of practically "confirmed" town because i'd rather push their mislynches in an uphill battle and instead kill ksc - hard townreading me until eternity because he's not a moron and knows what it means when i start shenanigans on slam and palmar - who just started townreading me and we just started trying to figure out the game together why the fuck would i kill my support base and try to go after "confirmed" town just for the challenge? i think scott is scum. he's done nothing all game. his reads aren't explained/don't make sense. he doesn't care about this game. yeah he has a green check do what y'all want but when i flip town, know how blindingly stupid you all are being i only partly forgive you because i realize that if i'm right and scott is scum he got a free ride from our cop but only partly it doesn't make it any less moronic for y'all to try to kill me over other players this game | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Day 5 Vote Count Not voted (5): scott31337, Onegu, rsoultin, ObiWanShinobi, GlowingBear As the wind blows, no one is staring death in the face. Day 5 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. The live voting tracker is located here. Please FORMAT YOUR VOTES CORRECTLY in the voting thread or the script will not pick your vote up! | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
I have all the reasons to call you Mafia And I have all the reasons to call you town. If I use Occam's razor, you're town. And you have been so effortful that although I have this imo telling me you're mafia, I'll let you live simply because if you're Mafia you deserve it. That leaves me scott and OWS Presumably, OWS would be the best lynch. But scott has been SO scummy that I prefer to lynch him anyway. + Show Spoiler + I'm still with this idea that, as you have been hard defending me and OWS and townreading Onegu, you chose to go against scott because he was your only option. Let's do this | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
i'm fully capable of changing my mind. did it on palmar. there's nothing preventing me from doing it now as town or scum but ye i want to lynch scott. could i be wrong on like ows/oneg ye, i could i don't think i am? i'm really gambling anyway here, cause i know that if oneg's scum...or even if he's town and it's you or ows i'm wrong on...i'm probably getting lynched in lylo | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On August 06 2015 23:06 rsoultin wrote: lol gb i'm fully capable of changing my mind. did it on palmar. there's nothing preventing me from doing it now as town or scum but ye i want to lynch scott. could i be wrong on like ows/oneg ye, i could i don't think i am? i'm really gambling anyway here, cause i know that if oneg's scum...or even if he's town and it's you or ows i'm wrong on...i'm probably getting lynched in lylo Actually, obi and I are your top supporters. Going against me or him could mean your death (since both Onegu and scott are willing to vote you). On the other hand, if you would take the easiest path you would never shoot palmar here as scum, but rather Onegu. You could put me against him and make the thread look like shit. With the shot implicating obi but you going against the weirdest lynch, I don't know... Makes you probably town? Yeah, I don't know. I don't actually care anymore since the rest of the players are equally not giving a shit | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
ows i'd imagine is either scum or a viable ml so him being around makes sense...palmar and ksc were much less likely to get lynched. regardless it's not terribly relevant at this point | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On August 07 2015 00:01 rsoultin wrote: well you're more like a whirlagig...where he lands nobody knows! ows i'd imagine is either scum or a viable ml so him being around makes sense...palmar and ksc were much less likely to get lynched. regardless it's not terribly relevant at this point Here I am! Rock you like a hurricane! | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
/shrug | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
who your townreads and scumreads are and why. in detail i know that you probably have already mentioned these things a million times, but indulge me cause no filters? thanks! | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
It'll take a little bit though. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On August 07 2015 00:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Yeh I don't know why you think the kill only benefits me. /shrug Palmar townread rsoultin and scumread you. With him dead, there is no one else pushing you. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On August 07 2015 02:28 GlowingBear wrote: Palmar townread rsoultin and scumread you. With him dead, there is no one else pushing you. No he didn't. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Yes he did | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
No, he didn't. | ||
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