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On July 29 2015 03:37 Tictock wrote:Ok, so if you think I'm scum here, then I want to know why you all think I'm the worst scum player ever? Why would I soft defend Bara, while still admitting the case on his was decent? Why push rayn who was one of the more vocal advocators of the Bara lynch? Why would I start to reevaluate my scum reads halfway through today and start making cases on new people and move my vote there? Like seriously, only way I'm scum here is if I'm going for the "Worst Scum Play 2015" award. No way do I push myself out into the limelight as scum like this. So if you really think I'm that bad of a scum player and would risk taking any of these actions that have made me look so weird and suspicious then you should take a quick look at my last scum game and explain why I've suddenly become terrible at playing as scum. My Filter that game: Holy Guardians
On July 29 2015 02:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 02:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 29 2015 02:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 29 2015 02:51 ruXxar wrote: Heres a fact:
TT is not scum with Scott or moosy. TT tried hard to lynch moosy, and Scott is first vote on TT today. If TT flips Mafia, I am not town. If TT flips town, I am not Mafia. I already explained this in a previous post of mine, but your statement that it's one or the other is completely false. If TT flips mafia you are town in my eyes. If TT flips town you could be either alignment. He's going to flip town.
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I'll trust you Damdred...
##unvote ##Vote scott31337
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On July 29 2015 04:34 n00bKing wrote: Well, that escalated quickly. Very quickly.
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*shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info.
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On July 29 2015 04:43 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:41 MoosyDoosy wrote: *shrugs* For me this is a good test to sniff out alignments through reactions of all parties involved. To be truthful I was reluctant to switch and with this quick change in voting, things do seem a bit off. But I think this lynch will at least give us a ton of info. subtly setting yourself up for a "told ya so"?  Yes. 
Nah, just saying the obvious. We're all thinking the same thing but not saying it.
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On July 29 2015 04:46 Damdred wrote: This is interesting.
Everyone who has moved why did you move to the Scott wagon. Because I trust you and if you're wrong I want to grab my tinfoil and lynch you.
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On July 29 2015 04:52 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:04 NocturneMage wrote: Just got home from work.
So people don't want to lynch Sulfurus - reading his last few posts and I have some questions.
- why is he looking at disformation (between him and Breshke) - one issue I have with him is why his read on Moosy isn't changing when Moosy's done a bit (he's saying his lynch list isn't changing except for the two names he's brought up) - Moosy has done some things that appear towny to me (read on) so I don't know how he's making a determination why he's still scummy (and less so disformation)
Sulfurus if you can answer these it would be great.
Reading a few filters...
I already voiced a few potential scum issues with Breshke (the ruxxar read drop, not getting anywhere on Sulfurus despite discussing noobking) but I need to read the Moosy/Breshke convo again, it looks really difficult to read at first glance...
Right now, the only real argument I've seen all game against Moosy is the question dodging although I thought he answered at some point why his read on Breshke evolved, mainly based on lurkiness. He has provided town reads and a scum read d1, and his response to Rels regarding the Barakos wagon "in the event it was wrong....would I have achieved anything" I thought was pretty towny.
I really don't think Moosy is the choice to go to lynch today, still townlean, and although it would appear that Tictock has moved on to a Scott/Breshke scumteam, he still has Moosy in his bottom three so unless it's buried in this thread somewhere, I'm curious as to why Tictock wasn't moved once Moosy provided those questions other than the argument "he's active and he's posting but still not that great."
And actually that's another point against Breshke - Breshke cited question dodging against Moosy as well when he returned to the thread, and Moosy had before resolved the questions I'm pretty sure.
I checked the meta read on Breshke and the argument holds, even accounting to equal the number of days, since he didn't last long in his scum games. I think mages is scum here actually YES this is EXACTLY what I thought.
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On July 29 2015 04:55 Damdred wrote: I think the most interesting thing to me, is that mages thinks breshke is the most suspicious and wants to lynched I believe.
But just a few minutes after breshke consolidates on scott, he votes scott with a really meh reason without any suspicion with his top scum read on him. Not to mention he has solid town reads on people like me that are continuous almost as if he already knows the alignments beforehand.
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But I still think that lynching scott is a better idea. Mage becomes REALLY suspicious only when scott flips town. Even then he has a solid case of busing on him.
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##unvote ##vote NocturneMage
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Tictock or Mage? I've been reading Mage as mostly townie until this most recent post so I'm still not sure.
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On July 29 2015 05:37 ruXxar wrote: Why don't we listen to our veteran and cop and let them lead the lynch? I'll sheep whereever rayn + scott goes. rayn wants TT, scott wants to live.
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Damdred, your vote is on nocturnemages not NocturneMage btw.
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On July 29 2015 05:53 disformation wrote: The three remaining ppl should also switch of scott... not really happy right now. =/ Why are you not voting? Your vote is not counted if you did too.
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If there is a real cop, they should definitely counterclaim. n00bKing, you also quoted my post about how scott might be a PR. Can you explain your rationale behind it and respond to it? It might be important here.
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Woah woah we need to think about this. What if scott planned this from the start? Say he read what I posted or what Rels posted about him possibly being a PR and he breadcrumbed on purpose. From there he's relying on this claim to stay alive to gain town cred.
If there is a PR they need to speak up NOW.
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On July 29 2015 10:06 Sulfurus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 09:22 disformation wrote: @Sulfurus: Any changes to your POE due to the developments of D2? Not really. The green check does make Moosy townier but he still needs to die before the game ends. Also a lot more people should have town reads on me since I was the only player to town read our cop back when it was unpopular. *dons hipster shades* BTW have you rolled mafia before Dis? Unfortunately you're wrong in everything else so your credibility goes back to 0.
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On July 29 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote: I had a really nice theory about who was scum and I still want to stick to it.
The list included:
TT - town. Flexes - mafia. Nocturne - ? Moosy - ?
I want to add n00bking to that list as well as breshke.
Tomorrow I want to lynch moosy.
Moosy is the mafia godfather 100%. It's the only logical explanation I can find for his play. His play was baiting a cop check so hard it's insanely obvious when you go back and look at it.
Yeah. I'm lock voting moosy tomorrow. Only a miracle will convince me otherwise. Flame me all you want.
Likely mafia in order:
Moosy - mafia godfather. N00bking - mafia role blocker. Nocturne / breshke.
Game over, town wins. I am Mafia Godfather can confirm 200%.
ruXxar is g0d, ruXxar is life. How'd you find out mahn I should l2p 2gud2betru
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smh this Day ruined my fucking mood. Tictock was such a townie I don't know how anyone saw otherwise. scott is still suspicious af, ruXxar is 9000+ town because he's still spewing garbage, Breshke needs to give a fuck, rayn needs a slap in the face, disinformation needs to help me out here because he's the only one making sense to me rite now.
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I made this looong post where I drew up lists from all the voting times, people on me and other townies, my blanket list from earlier, and Damdred's thoughts that we shouldn't lynch people on the Barakos wagon. The list of people I was left with was Tictock/Breshke/scott/Sulf/ruXxar/Mage.
I read Tictock as town, scott claimed, ruXxar is 9000+ town, leaving us Breshke/Sulf/Mage.
I can post the post which I made before everyone started flip flopping through votes like fish if you guys want to see it but I decided not to post it and see how things turned out. Either way, it looks like the list is still good to go and my thoughts were only further confirmed by this mislynch.
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