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On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote:
Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:
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noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.
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Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill. Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker. ??? I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding.
Really want an answer on this from n00b.
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On July 27 2015 20:54 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote:
Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:
1
noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.
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Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill. Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker. ??? I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding. Really want an answer on this from n00b.
I can not comment objectively, but I think Tiktock spoke the truth. We should concentrate on other people that noobking or myself. We're both pretty angry, so nothing productive will happen if we're pushed.
Any thought on Sulfurus ruxxar ?
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On July 27 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 20:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:26 Rels wrote:
Wow this is ridiculous. That is WIFOM, not worse than WIFOM. Look at these possibility:
1
noobking is a mafia (not GF). Rels said he was going to check noobking. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoid a red check.
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Flexes is mafia. Rels said he was going to shoot Flexes. The mafia team has to roleblock Rels to avoir a mafia kill. Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker. ??? I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding. Really want an answer on this from n00b. I can not comment objectively, but I think Tiktock spoke the truth. We should concentrate on other people that noobking or myself. We're both pretty angry, so nothing productive will happen if we're pushed. Any thought on Sulfurus ruxxar ?
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Why do you not want an answer to this question?
I don't think his "answer" made ANY sense at all.
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On July 27 2015 21:05 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 20:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:47 n00bKing wrote:
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Those are not reasonable "possibilities." If Flexes is Scum, and knows there is a Vigilante in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be shot by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Vigilante, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town). If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town).
The second scenario is particularly ludicrous, because you're trying to tell me that after I spent Day 1 and Night 1 painting you as a suspect, I then up and ROLEBLOCKED you, in a game where there is a guaranteed Scum roleblocker but no possibility of a Town roleblocker.
??? I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding. Really want an answer on this from n00b. I can not comment objectively, but I think Tiktock spoke the truth. We should concentrate on other people that noobking or myself. We're both pretty angry, so nothing productive will happen if we're pushed. Any thought on Sulfurus ruxxar ? ?? Why do you not want an answer to this question? I don't think his "answer" made ANY sense at all.
Yesterday I was in his shoes. I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it. I mean, read his last posts. He got progressively angry and started using majs. Mafia are usually calmer than that.
I too don't understand this sentence, but I decided to ignore him for the day and let him and I get more calm. We'll continue this tomorrow. IMO you should do the same.
Maybe I won't be like that if we didn't have other solid leads. But I feel Sulfurus and Flexes are very suspicious, and TT and MD are worth talking about.
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On July 27 2015 21:13 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 21:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 20:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:50 Rels wrote:
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I agree that if you are mafia, it's bad for you to roleblock me (or kill me). BUT if you know there is a cop in the setup, you have no choice but to do that. Bad situation but wifomable > red check. lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."? I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding. Really want an answer on this from n00b. I can not comment objectively, but I think Tiktock spoke the truth. We should concentrate on other people that noobking or myself. We're both pretty angry, so nothing productive will happen if we're pushed. Any thought on Sulfurus ruxxar ? ?? Why do you not want an answer to this question? I don't think his "answer" made ANY sense at all. Yesterday I was in his shoes. I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it. I mean, read his last posts. He got progressively angry and started using majs. Mafia are usually calmer than that. I too don't understand this sentence, but I decided to ignore him for the day and let him and I get more calm. We'll continue this tomorrow. IMO you should do the same. Maybe I won't be like that if we didn't have other solid leads. But I feel Sulfurus and Flexes are very suspicious, and TT and MD are worth talking about.
No, it's a simple question with simple answer.
He can answer it today.
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On July 27 2015 21:14 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 21:13 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 21:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 20:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 17:57 n00bKing wrote:
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lol, NONSENSE. What didn't you understand about "If n00bKing is Scum, and knows there is a Cop in the game, he can be very confident that he will not be checked by Rels (even on the off chance that Rels is that Cop, which is already unlikely for reasons that I can't explain without damaging the Town)."?
I don't understand. You are saying: - I'm probably not the cop - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding. Really want an answer on this from n00b. I can not comment objectively, but I think Tiktock spoke the truth. We should concentrate on other people that noobking or myself. We're both pretty angry, so nothing productive will happen if we're pushed. Any thought on Sulfurus ruxxar ? ?? Why do you not want an answer to this question? I don't think his "answer" made ANY sense at all. Yesterday I was in his shoes. I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it. I mean, read his last posts. He got progressively angry and started using majs. Mafia are usually calmer than that. I too don't understand this sentence, but I decided to ignore him for the day and let him and I get more calm. We'll continue this tomorrow. IMO you should do the same. Maybe I won't be like that if we didn't have other solid leads. But I feel Sulfurus and Flexes are very suspicious, and TT and MD are worth talking about. No, it's a simple question with simple answer. He can answer it today.
Hahaha he's going to be soooo angry =D can't wait to see that.
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On July 27 2015 21:18 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 21:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 21:13 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 21:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 20:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:On July 27 2015 17:59 Rels wrote:
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I don't understand. You are saying:
- I'm probably not the cop
- On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you
I don't understand why you are saying that. Especially the second part. HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?? I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding. Really want an answer on this from n00b. I can not comment objectively, but I think Tiktock spoke the truth. We should concentrate on other people that noobking or myself. We're both pretty angry, so nothing productive will happen if we're pushed. Any thought on Sulfurus ruxxar ? ?? Why do you not want an answer to this question? I don't think his "answer" made ANY sense at all. Yesterday I was in his shoes. I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it. I mean, read his last posts. He got progressively angry and started using majs. Mafia are usually calmer than that. I too don't understand this sentence, but I decided to ignore him for the day and let him and I get more calm. We'll continue this tomorrow. IMO you should do the same. Maybe I won't be like that if we didn't have other solid leads. But I feel Sulfurus and Flexes are very suspicious, and TT and MD are worth talking about. No, it's a simple question with simple answer. He can answer it today. Hahaha he's going to be soooo angry =D can't wait to see that.
I can't wait.
@reads, I'll give you an answer little later, need to work in front of boss 
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On July 27 2015 21:20 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 21:18 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 21:14 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 21:13 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 21:05 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 20:58 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 20:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 19:56 ruXxar wrote:On July 27 2015 18:09 Rels wrote:On July 27 2015 18:03 n00bKing wrote:
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HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT??
I still don't get why you are saying this: - On the off-chance I'm the cop, I won't check you This is going nowhere. Let's stop here. Let's not stop here, I want an answer to this. Why would rels not check n00nking if rels is cop. Explain like I'm 5. You already called me dumb so I need extra spoon feeding. Really want an answer on this from n00b. I can not comment objectively, but I think Tiktock spoke the truth. We should concentrate on other people that noobking or myself. We're both pretty angry, so nothing productive will happen if we're pushed. Any thought on Sulfurus ruxxar ? ?? Why do you not want an answer to this question? I don't think his "answer" made ANY sense at all. Yesterday I was in his shoes. I wrote a big post saying how he was mafia for a tons of reasons, and when I reread it before posting I realize most of it was nonsense. I'm pretty happy I did not post it. I mean, read his last posts. He got progressively angry and started using majs. Mafia are usually calmer than that. I too don't understand this sentence, but I decided to ignore him for the day and let him and I get more calm. We'll continue this tomorrow. IMO you should do the same. Maybe I won't be like that if we didn't have other solid leads. But I feel Sulfurus and Flexes are very suspicious, and TT and MD are worth talking about. No, it's a simple question with simple answer. He can answer it today. Hahaha he's going to be soooo angry =D can't wait to see that. I can't wait. @reads, I'll give you an answer little later, need to work in front of boss
Sneaky!
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@Breshke
On July 26 2015 19:49 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2015 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I still think Flexes is mafia.
There is no reason a townie would say "i am writing a reads post right now" if they are not doing so.
I find that impossible.
Like this game is pretty straightforward. People who do scummy things are usually scum. If someone thinks they themselves did a scummy thing they are scum. rofl. Saying you are doing something you actually aren't is a scummy thing.
Flexes is lying, as proven by the thread. It doesn't matter if it "makes sense for him to do that as mafia". It matters that no townie ever says they are DOING something they actually aren't.
Simple things are simple. I want to lynch flexes more than moosey now. Also i don't see why people assume that barakos scum mates would have known he was going to stop playing. If he was around to tell them he wouldnt be posting it is very likely he would have just posted in the thread instead. I also like noobking even more now for his post on we should be looking for the most scummy people not the people most likely to bus because the later is stupid.
Q1 Reasons for lynching Flexes ?
You had quite a few posts defending Sulfurus. See spoiler.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 25 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
Yeah sulfurus is town On July 25 2015 13:24 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 12:16 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 25 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
Yeah sulfurus is town Reasoning? His like third? post in the game was him posting an auto list. On July 25 2015 14:28 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:19 Tictock wrote:
Damdred is... probably town? I don't know I am getting a weird feeling from him right now. My only game with him I was mafia and he was town so I'd rate my ability to read him as a "meh"
I kinda agree about Mossy, I'll get to my read of him a little later. I did give him a card earlier for a reason.
As for the Tarot... Well you should recall that I enjoyed batsnacks little I-ching read that game. I've been wanting to do something similar.
Mostly people decided to ignore it, which is possibly the correct response ^.^ It does kinda force me to stop, not that I ever intended to be that useless all game.
So Bre, tell me. Why do you seem so off this game?
Like, you don't seem to be trying very hard to get reads. The first half of the day you really only talked about ruXx or MD, now your suddenly jumping on board this Bara wagon (which I'm not sold on) and are giving away a town read on sulf for basically nothing. Ok that makes sense I guess. If you are comparing this to our mason game it isn't going to be the same, there i was more enthusiastic partly because i felt like i owed it to you. This phase is also over friday/saturday for me which is not good for me. Was there much more to talk about? I'm fairly sure i also said i thought noobking was town. The bara wagon is good, even if it isn't I think bara is skilled enough to convince me/others that he is town so there isn't really much more to look into about him at the moment if he doesn't come back. The sulf read might seem like nothing but tell me if he is mafia why does he put out an auto list. He even has said that he will discuss the reads when people ask. Like why does mafia do this especially when they are usually an inactive player. It just feels so out there that sulf as mafia with perfect imformation thinks to himself yeah i will put out a list where ive solved the game in my third post. On July 25 2015 14:46 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:37 Tictock wrote:
@ Bre
Struck me as odd that you ignored the nonsense I was doing with no comments, and yea just in general weren't really engaging a lot.
Based on your responses to me here I'm willing to shrug it off for the time being.
As for Sulf... He's really just floating doing his own thing?
This "auto" list seems somewhat towny, but it's timing is weird. Also his PoE list looks too much like the majority sentiment of the game right now. I could be wrong but especially after that last post about Bara I really have the sense he might just be trying to show effort without really doing anything. I thought it might have been going somewhere i wasn't going to interrupt. Also if it didn't go somewhere and you continued that would have been good info as well. How is the timing weird? What did you expect him to have on bara though other than what is already out there. I wouldn't say it is scummy that he has no "new" things about bara if anything it is scummy that he chose to explain that read first and in so many words instead of just saying like "what rayn said was good" but i think it is possible that he thinks it wouldnt be appropriate giving that response. Sulf can you explain your Noobking scumread, that is the one I am most interested in. On July 25 2015 14:49 Breshke wrote:
Also general things like thread sentiment can be a bit meh like for example im scumeading moosey and bara. That is thread sentiment and ive taken less hard stances than sul did in that one post yet you havn't said you thought it was scummy that im following thread sentiment.
Yes i get that other than that point mine and sulfs play has been different but having that as one of the main things you don't like about him is very general and it is easy to scumread an inactive player for stuff like that. On July 25 2015 15:01 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:55 Tictock wrote:
Like, if sulf had posted nothing else we policy lynch him... for sure.
Posting this auto-lynch concept and selling it could very well be a last ditch effort of doing "something".
I don't like it because a lot of my scum reads are in his town pile ^.^
Also I have at least 2 maybe 3 solid town reads in his PoE list so that makes me nervous as well... Then ask him specifically about those people? You most recently asked him about damdred and flex and from what i can tell you agree with him that damdred is town so leave that for now and ask specifically about the reads you disagree with.. If sulf is town he wants to engage with people about his list and if it is a "las ditch effort" from a sulf mafia then it will be hard for him to back his list up with reasoning
Q2 Are you still town reading him ?
In particular, you adviced to ask Sulfurus for more infos on his list.
On July 25 2015 15:01 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 14:55 Tictock wrote:
Like, if sulf had posted nothing else we policy lynch him... for sure.
Posting this auto-lynch concept and selling it could very well be a last ditch effort of doing "something".
I don't like it because a lot of my scum reads are in his town pile ^.^
Also I have at least 2 maybe 3 solid town reads in his PoE list so that makes me nervous as well... Then ask him specifically about those people?
Disformation did a few times and never got an answer.
Q3 What do you think of that ?
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On July 27 2015 08:09 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I gotta go to bed.
shoot Fexexs.
check tictactoe.
i think they are the last mafia.
i think moosy is not mafia.
be aware of sulf and breshke, mayyyybe NM.
i don't think anyone else has a chance of flipping mafia. Tictock seems really weird from what I've read of his filter - I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it - was Barakos that scummy? It's a lot to read all the pages again. Can anyone point to any big points I may have missed?
Two questions.
Why is TT really weird ?
rayn said "be aware of sulf and breshke"
You answer "I just don't see Breshke being mafia with such an early vote and not moving it"
But Sulfurus voted 8 minutes after Breshke and didn't move it. Why do you mention Breshke and not Sulfurus ?
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I'm back and (obviously) catching up. First things first - glad to see we got scum d1 and no one died d2. Couldn't get any better.
First few comments just reading a few filters, so I can understand some arguments better -
Moosy's set the standard for himself that he would follow up with reads. He has since provided 5 town reads and one scum read which is consistent with the way he said he'd go about things here. Unless I missed it somewhere in reading, is anyone else voting for him other than Sulfurus (which I take issue with for reasons I state later) if so, why? Something to do with where he voted on the wagon?
I wasn't fully convinced d1 he was the vote at all given his tone and he followed up since. But I'm not sure how order/placement of votes affects someone's alignment so if someone could give me a crash course on the whole bussing thing in 1-2 sentences, I'd appreciate it.
Anyhow, I also really don't like Sulfurus' vote on him, which brings me to Sulfurus.
Sulfurus, I already stated my position on his list post. But then he just throws his vote on MoosyDoosy, again with no reason. MoosyDoosy has posted a bit in the time that Sulfurus has posted, so that him not looking at him again and just voting him as being second on the list is pretty terrible.
I'd vote Sulfurus today, looking into others at the moment as I can.
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To add - I know what bussing means, but I'm trying to grasp the relationship between where someone is on a voting wagon and the likeliness of that person being scum. I remember Damdred made some comment around or after end of day 1 on the last people on the wagon being scum, but I didn't understand the argument behind it.
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On July 27 2015 22:31 NocturneMage wrote:
I wasn't fully convinced d1 he was the vote at all given his tone and he followed up since. But I'm not sure how order/placement of votes affects someone's alignment so if someone could give me a crash course on the whole bussing thing in 1-2 sentences, I'd appreciate it.
In general, mafia A will not vote for mafia B if nobody else thinks that mafia B is suspicious.
But as mafia B gets more and more vote, mafia A will feel compeled to bus him to be in the thread sentiment and appear townie.
So usually, the first few people voting on a mafia are townie. After that, it's way less alignment indicative.
Could you answer this ? No trap or anything like that! Just curious.
On July 27 2015 16:57 Rels wrote:@NocturneMage: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 03:49 NocturneMage wrote:
Having read other games, seems like some people lose their heads in this game? What other games did you read ?
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Guys stop being bads, we shouldn't lynch people who were on the wagon to lynch scum tomorrow.
There are a few people who aren't really playing and weren't on the wagon.
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On July 27 2015 22:42 Damdred wrote:
Guys stop being bads, we shouldn't lynch people who were on the wagon to lynch scum tomorrow.
There are a few people who aren't really playing and weren't on the wagon.
I don't care if people were on wagon or not. Being late on Barakos' wagon is neither town nor scum indicative.
I'm lynching scummy looking people.
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Rels, sure.
Read parts of the following games - Gaiden, Mafia in the Himalayas - my fear on people's conduct primarily stemmed from these two games, people acting out. The moderators of both games seemed to be pretty strict so that might have biased me there.
Read others - Not Themed Mafia, Carnaval, and maybe the first half of the last newbie.
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On July 27 2015 22:45 NocturneMage wrote:
Rels, sure.
Read parts of the following games - Gaiden, Mafia in the Himalayas - my fear on people's conduct primarily stemmed from these two games, people acting out. The moderators of both games seemed to be pretty strict so that might have biased me there.
Read others - Not Themed Mafia, Carnaval, and maybe the first half of the last newbie.
Alright! Was wondering how you knew ruxxar rolled scum in his last games. Now I get it. (=
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On July 27 2015 22:35 NocturneMage wrote:
To add - I know what bussing means, but I'm trying to grasp the relationship between where someone is on a voting wagon and the likeliness of that person being scum. I remember Damdred made some comment around or after end of day 1 on the last people on the wagon being scum, but I didn't understand the argument behind it.
Okay, trying to explain the idea behind the argument. Scum would avoid lynching scum. So often they are not fond of voting for a teammate, who is in some danger. But when the lynch of a teammate becomes unstoppable they will hop on the wagon to get some town credibility "hey I voted for scum". This often happens rather late, since they might try to wait and see if they can get somebody else lynched instead. Often this is accompanied by a poor and/or unoriginal reason to vote for their mate.
Of course we do not know how early Barakos gave up and what was discussed in scum QT, the plan to bus Barakos might have been formed early, but the possibility of 1 scum hopping on the Barakos wagon rather late is rather plausible.
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