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On July 27 2015 22:35 NocturneMage wrote:
To add - I know what bussing means, but I'm trying to grasp the relationship between where someone is on a voting wagon and the likeliness of that person being scum. I remember Damdred made some comment around or after end of day 1 on the last people on the wagon being scum, but I didn't understand the argument behind it.
Okay, trying to explain the idea behind the argument. Scum would avoid lynching scum. So often they are not fond of voting for a teammate, who is in some danger. But when the lynch of a teammate becomes unstoppable they will hop on the wagon to get some town credibility "hey I voted for scum". This often happens rather late, since they might try to wait and see if they can get somebody else lynched instead. Often this is accompanied by a poor and/or unoriginal reason to vote for their mate.
Of course we do not know how early Barakos gave up and what was discussed in scum QT, the plan to bus Barakos might have been formed early, but the possibility of 1 scum hopping on the Barakos wagon rather late is rather plausible.
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On July 27 2015 22:42 Damdred wrote:
Guys stop being bads, we shouldn't lynch people who were on the wagon to lynch scum tomorrow.
There are a few people who aren't really playing and weren't on the wagon.
Meh.
Kinda waiting on scott to post some more stuff before I reevaluate the flexes spot.
I think MoosyDoosy looks a lot better as of N1.
That leaves me with TT and ruxXar. Skimmed TT's filter earlier and aside from the super wrong read on rayne he at least looks better than Sulfurus imo. That leaves ruxXar, who I have a town lean on. Though...
Well I will reread ruxXar and TT's filter properly when I am at home.
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@Damdred:
Are your bottom 5 still:
Moosey
Sulf
Breshke
Tt
Flex
?
Has the order changed recently? Which of those would you prefer to lynch today? I assume it is one of MD, TT and Flex since they are the 3 from the list that weren't on the Barakos wagon? Any preference for one of those?
Also I am somehow super unaware of the accusations against TT. I remember him being super nice to me, though... pocket/buddying attempt? Anyway can someone rehash the stuff against TT for me? Yeah, I now I am a lazy cunt. xD
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On July 28 2015 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
We do not lynch sulfurus.
If you think whrn every single person in the game is okay with lynching him except for me and Damdred, will he flip mafia?
Lynch tictock. Unless you cant see why he is mafia, especially with this retarded push on sulfurus, then at least vote for scott, who is also mafia.
Meh. Will read TT's filter again. Willing to switch to scott, if he doesn't show up with good. Still would like at least some pressure on Sulfurus.
Random note: super tired, couldn't sleep for 2hours after going to bed and have slept only 4h as a result. So this stuff might happen some time tomorrow, since it might colapse into bed soonish.
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Sleep deprived rant time:
@Damdred, @Ryan:
Could explain again why you think lynching someone who did vote barakos is so much worse than lynching one of the guys who didn't? I feel like I am missing something, or my brain refuses to accept certain information, or I forgot a key post or something. Sry for being not very helpful today. =/
Explain it to me like like I am a sleep deprived baddie, that is pretty damn bad at this game. Which is pretty much what I am anyway. =p
Will prolly go to bed soon, so I'll read answers tomorrow. THanks in advance.
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On July 28 2015 05:23 n00bKing wrote:And are you voting for anyone?
Do we have a decent counterwagon? Lack of countersomethings would be somewhat concerningly.
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*sigh* Okay. Sry, for being pretty useless today. =/
##unvote
Will go to bed now.
Top priority for tomorrow is TT. MD after that.
If scott doesn't up his game I will be willing to vote for him.
Random note: Breshke is awefully MIA.
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On July 28 2015 21:05 Rels wrote:
If anybody else can comment on TT, Breshke, Moosy and scott that would be super kind, 'cause I'm kind of overthinking it right now.
Still thinking TT is the best shot for mafia though for now.
Plan to look into those four later. Horrible day at work, no time atm. Sry. =/
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Random notes:
I agree that there is most likely not a very experienced vet on the scum team (rayn/breshke/damdred). Though that is just a gut feel I have.
Read Scott's filter. Don't like him jumping on every decent case he sees but I don't mind his attempt at VCA that much. Though overall his contribution so far is kinda lacking. Tempted to maybe give him another day. But also depends on how much more/less likely I judge ruXxar/TT/MD to be scum.
Might sneak out a 30min break to read TT next.
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Read ruXxar instead. Do not think he is scum at all.
Leaves me with MD and TT.
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MD:
Uh... if I put it to paper it kinda looks worse than I thought.
- Puts out some meta stuff on different ppl.
- Admittedly tries to pocket some ppl to form a "town circle".
- No visible reads D1. Only a town lean on ruXxar.
- Did not vote at all D1.
- Spend most of D1 yelling at ruXxar. Partly in a horrible tone...
- Starts to put out some reads/lists starting N1, consistent with his plan of forming a town circle first. I kinda like/agree with the list... but it kinda looks like thread consent, so he might have been waiting for that to form before putting out a list...
- "Claims" mafia.
Still I quite like some of his interactions
E.g.
On July 28 2015 21:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2015 21:55 Rels wrote:
Alright I thought about it more. Only three teams are likely in my mind:
TT + NM
Moosy + scott
Moosy + NM
Even though I hated his "I am mafia" posts, I had a town feel for D1 for moosy. So for the moment my vote stay on TT.
I can switch to any of the other three, and will consolidate with my town reads if needed (rayn, Damdred, ruxxar, disfo, noobking). ...Your town feels should be from my N1 and not D1. D1 was me crushing ruXxar.
I don't think mafia would be happy to point out something like this. Especially since there is some danger of MD being the lynch today... yet him not caring much getting lynched, can it be town?
So. This looks super bad on paper. Yet something feels off. Did I miss something?
Like I could vote for him since this looks pretty bad, but I am not convinced he has a high chance of flipping scum... =/
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On July 29 2015 01:29 Damdred wrote:
I'm never voting sulf today I think. I'm torn on tt, bresh, moos
Hm. Breshke was on the barakos wagon wasn't he?
I thought we wanted to keep the lynch off the wagon today... though I am sleeping a bit on Breshke.
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Looking a bit through TT's filter at first I liked a bunch of his recent posts.... then...
On July 27 2015 12:44 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2015 12:33 Sulfurus wrote:On July 27 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:On July 27 2015 10:37 Sulfurus wrote:
I did NOT get roleblocked last night.
And if you did I recommend claiming cause it's kinda like a green check. Who do you think are the last two mafia? My reads are pretty much the same as I listed them here. Now that Barakos is dead Moosy is next up. ##Vote: MoosyDoosy Just FYI If Mossy is actually mafia like I think he is... then you all have my permission to lynch me when I come up on Sul's PoE list. Maybe scum!Sul puts Bara on that list to get the town cred. No way does scum!Sul bus both his teammates in the first 2 days.
What if this really says: "If Mossy would be mafia like I know he is not, then you have my permission to lnyhc me when I come up on Sul's PoE list.
Let me go ahead and prepare a Sul misslynch."
But I really liked this:
On July 28 2015 09:03 Tictock wrote:
Quick post while on my meal break.
Sulf is actually looking less and less likely to be mafi here... His posting looks pretty similar to his town game in NSM X.
While I still think it is likely that at least one mafia bussed Bara, I do agree with Damdred and rayn here that it is a smart to focus on the people not on the Bara wagon.
I think ruxx is town, and I've already stated my opinions on Moosy.
As for scott... Idk seems odd how he is just sheeping cases before he is done catching up with the game. I also would expect him to take more time trying to get a read on me. Scott has played with me more than anyone here and like Damdred he was in Holy Guardians where I managed to get Scott lynched in LyLo. I'd expect Scott to be able to read me better, or at least put some effort into trying to...
Breshke is also lurking really hardcore this game, really making me think he is scum. I was masons with Bre and so I know he doesn't feel confident as scum (we talked about alot of stuff).
Just remembered the two of them being masons together yesterday and wanted to ask them about each other...
like... is the scum team Breshke + flexes/scott ?
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Also additional thoughts on TT:
He is noticeable nice to me (e.g. putting me above rayne and damdred on his town list) all game. Metaread or a Buddying/Pocketing attempt?
His case/read on Rayn D1 is pretty bad, but I know him as the guy who tunnels a blue for 2 cycles straight as town, so I don't think he is scum for that. =p
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TBH would vote Scott (not looking good + POE) or Breshke atm.
MD or TT could be scum, but I don't strongly believe that and am not sure who of the two is more likely to be scum.
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On July 29 2015 02:49 disformation wrote:
TBH would vote Scott (not looking good + POE) or Breshke atm.
MD or TT could be scum, but I don't strongly believe that and am not sure who of the two is more likely to be scum.
On July 29 2015 03:44 Damdred wrote:
Fuck it moosey is probably town here.
So Scott or breshke.
Since I have a 100% winrate with lynching scott D1 so far...
##vote scott31337
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On July 29 2015 04:03 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:02 n00bKing wrote:
day at work is getting busier. Can anyone put together a current vote count so I can see whether or not I need to post the Town Case on Ticktock? I'm still getting lynched. Not 100% on the count but it's something like Tictock 4 Sulf 3 Scott 3 Moosy 2
Yeah that is the current count. vote scott. 
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On July 29 2015 04:05 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:03 Tictock wrote:On July 29 2015 04:02 n00bKing wrote:
day at work is getting busier. Can anyone put together a current vote count so I can see whether or not I need to post the Town Case on Ticktock? I'm still getting lynched. Not 100% on the count but it's something like Tictock 4 Sulf 3 Scott 3 Moosy 2 Well get 100%. I'm not typing all this up if I don't have to. lol
On July 29 2015 04:04 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2015 04:03 Tictock wrote:On July 29 2015 04:02 n00bKing wrote:
day at work is getting busier. Can anyone put together a current vote count so I can see whether or not I need to post the Town Case on Ticktock? I'm still getting lynched. Not 100% on the count but it's something like Tictock 4 Sulf 3 Scott 3 Moosy 2 Yeah that is the current count. vote scott.
On July 29 2015 04:06 Breshke wrote:
Unvote
Vote Scott
Okay I'll be back in like two hours
Hrm. This kinda dampens my enthusiasm for the Breshke + scott scum team a bit. =/
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Tictock 4
Sulf 3
Scott 4
Moosy 1
lunch: TT
with breshke moving
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On July 29 2015 04:12 Damdred wrote:
Who's on tt here?
tictock (4): scott31337, Rels, raynpelikoneet, ruXxar
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