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Moosy, you threw a lot of shit on me for not giving any reads.
Yet I can't find a single one of your reads besides me.
When are you going to contribute this game hmm?
What are your reads?
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Hmmm... I know these cards have meanings. Do you have any interpretation of these? Can you link these interpretations to their posts so far?
Can I has a card, too?
+ Show Spoiler +In before The Hanged Man (XII)
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@Disformation:
You had interaction with me in what game?
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On July 24 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:Useful list of useless peopleSulfurusTicktockIf one of the two still hasn't contribute something tomorrow, I'll push for his lynch very hard.
Can probably add Flexes
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On July 25 2015 02:51 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:Useful list of useless peopleSulfurusTicktockIf one of the two still hasn't contribute something tomorrow, I'll push for his lynch very hard. Can probably add Flexes
+1
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On July 25 2015 02:50 ruXxar wrote:
@Disformation:
You had interaction with me in what game?
Hm. Might have made my post a bit unclear. Might reformat.
I was "sorta involved" in two games with you. (shadowed a player in two games)
The one I was in a game with and probably didn't have much interaction with is barakos.
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On July 25 2015 02:54 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 02:50 ruXxar wrote:
@Disformation:
You had interaction with me in what game? Hm. Might have made my post a bit unclear. Might reformat. I was "sorta involved" in two games with you. (shadowed a player in two games) The one I was in a game with and probably didn't have much interaction with is barakos.
Alright, coolio.
For what it's worth I think you're town.
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On July 25 2015 02:51 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 23:47 Rels wrote:Useful list of useless peopleSulfurusTicktockIf one of the two still hasn't contribute something tomorrow, I'll push for his lynch very hard. Can probably add Flexes
Yeah liked his first posts but he really needs to come back.
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On July 25 2015 02:48 ruXxar wrote:
Moosy, you threw a lot of shit on me for not giving any reads.
Yet I can't find a single one of your reads besides me.
When are you going to contribute this game hmm?
What are your reads?
Interested in this too.
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Rels i thought Mooseguy is town for this post:
On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough.  Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred.
That's how i tend to post sometimes. Why explai neverything when you can force people into actually thinking why are posting the stuff you do? that, and his overall eagerness to read ruxxar and carefree attitude.
Anyways i had some doubts later, but i am back to thinking he is town.
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Oh, I think I just remembered one thing barakos did in NSM X.
Someone posted some poetry in the beginning and asked for interpretations. I think barakos had a scum lean on me the entire game for my interpretation of that poem. xD
Also FYI - who I currently not like:
MoosyDoosy - mostly for his constant ad hom and super angry tone.
barakos - not sure if I want to buy his reaction test and his resulting super constructed scum read on me. still in the realms of wrong town though.
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Actually no, i am not sure anymore. I misread something.
Moosedude what's your read on Barakos?
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On July 25 2015 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:Rels i thought Mooseguy is town for this post: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 24 2015 10:07 Breshke wrote:On July 24 2015 09:53 Damdred wrote:Initial reads before anything else happens Disinformation and Ruxxor are obviously town to me atm, this is subject to change but tone wise and frequency of posting so far lead me in the general direction of duh they are town. And then my first weird feeling came from this post. On July 24 2015 09:08 Barakos wrote:On July 24 2015 08:47 disformation wrote:On July 24 2015 08:41 ruXxar wrote:
I intentionally attempt to change my meta every game.
The ebb, and flow, the flavor, the topping, the innards.
Sometime it's just a sparkle on top, taking the edge off, a tone shift, an aggressive approach, a preachy approach.
Aggregation of information molded and grinded into the essence of simple axioms I can follow to improve my play and enjoy myself.
You only get as much out of the game as you put into it.
I need to engage in my own way.
Repetition grows stale, experimentation fosters newfound interest and pathways not previously considered.
My #1 goal is to have fun.
In my seeking of that goal I need to be flexible and formless.
Able to adapt and implement ideas, mix new and old, step out of my comfort zone to discover the the trails that do not necessarily lead to victory in the short run, but over time complements my play as a whole.
Fair enough. Might still take a look later on in the game. *shrugs* Might depend on how much of an easy/hard time I have reading you later I guess. So far only 4/13 players have posted. Bit of shame. Might go to bed soonish since I am having a bit of a headache. -.- Yeah... weather here in germany sucks... I've been feeling like shit the whole day... And then I come to reread and ruxxars style just gives me more headaches. -.- Dunno, what to make of it atm, last time someone used poetry in a game it confused the hell out of me and 2 of the 3 reads I got from it were utter bullshit, so for now, I'll not jump to any conclusions about ruxxar, based on that style, but would really appreciate it, if this changes sometime soon... Kinda strongly dislike rayn for coming in and making an alibi-post, that kinda reads like he won't be here for the rest of the dayphase... let's just hope, that's not the case and there will be more posts from him. Nocturne coming in and asking lots of questions seems kinda active. But a lot of his posts/ questions are targetet at other peoples opinion about the alignment of person x/y/z, without actually giving his own thoughts... Disformation - several posts... mostly about ruxxars other games and the difference in tone, also the only one, who openly likes ruxxars style... What I don't like, is that he defends the "bullshitting" in the start of the game. Granted, it's hard to start a conversation early on and you kind of have to do something, to get the thread going, (and you kinda have to give ruxxar credit for this - he created something, people can talk about) but encouraging him to keep this up the whole game seems kinda off to me. Noobking - totally top town for being able to count, how many people have posted, just to correct disformation! This post just smells off to me, it seems like a lot of information doesn't say a lot doesn't draw many conclussions and gives the thought of doing a lot of things while doing nothing at the same time. Giving him a scum lean even this early Breshke is also a bit odd so far, the questions without other opinions just strikes me a bit funny. Ehh my question to barakos was just making sure he wasnt trying to say rayns thing was scummy. The ruxxar one I am still kind of waiting for a reply. So it starts with this On July 24 2015 07:40 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:36 n00bKing wrote:I'll keep posting this at the start of each game, until people actually start following it. From the General Guide on how to play: Don’t babble. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else’s productivity. This paralyzes town analysis and decision-making and allows mafia to hide in the chaos Not totally sure that ruXxar is in violation yet. But...it kinda seems like it. He knows that some of us have seen him play as both allegiances already, so I'm not a fan of him making this wild change in his posting style. It could serve as a decent smokescreen. Ah, but my goal is clear and simple. Discussion must flow for alignments to be revealed. When making unorthodox comments you gain traction and arouse thoughts. Am I scum, am I town? As you judge me, I judge you. A dead thread benefits no one. Let your thoughts flow unfiltered and you have nothing to fear. The ye olde play of ill do weird shit to get people to talk about my weird shit then get reads off said people. Except noobking (in a roundabout way but still fairly obvious) that this could be a decent smokescreen for ruxxar infering that he thinks ruxxar is doing this as scum. So ruxxar got what he wanted and someone is talking about his stuff yet when asked to give a read on noobking he dodges it. On July 24 2015 07:54 ruXxar wrote:On July 24 2015 07:41 NocturneMage wrote:On July 24 2015 07:24 disformation wrote:
Hm I would read ruxxars posts so far as NAI.
Not alignment indicative. The poetry stuff could have been preplanned. The tone is all fluff. *shrugs*
But then again, breaking the ice on D1 is kinda hard. xD It would seem like it. I don't know if I should make anything the way he's addressing people, ignoring his poetry, that could come from town or mafia. I'm assuming no ill-will means a town read? or a null read? I can't tell actually. ruxxar is that even a read on noobking? A read from a sentence? What do I analyze, the tone, the cadence, the befriending emoticon? The timing, his motivation, his meta? A sentence says so little yet says so much if you but know what to look for. I will not pass judgement on n00b yet, but you nocturne, you have showed your true colors. The natural curiosity, the spontaneous doubt, your inquisitive nature and your non-hesitation to share with us of your life. I read you clear as a book. Your alignment is town. While saying that there is not enough to read noob off of yet is a fair point. Yet doing the play where he makes weird posts at the start of the game i expect ruxxar to peruse those reads and he doesn't do this with noobking. His only other post directed towards noobking are complaining that he can not read him. I don't see evidence of him trying to work out noobkings alignment from reactions to his openings or other means which I feel is contradictory to the first post i quoted. I think ruxxar is scum Also i would like to add that i think noobkings smokescreen post was really townie because it showed paranoia to me which i feel like is hard to fake as mafia. Ooooh boy this post. This post this post this post. You might be onto something here Damdred. That's how i tend to post sometimes. Why explai neverything when you can force people into actually thinking why are posting the stuff you do? that, and his overall eagerness to read ruxxar and carefree attitude. Anyways i had some doubts later, but i am back to thinking he is town.
Yeah the attitude is why I townread now too. Plus he was the one inspiring me to do the useful list of useless people, as he called out sulfurus pretty early on.
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On July 25 2015 02:48 ruXxar wrote:
Moosy, you threw a lot of shit on me for not giving any reads.
Yet I can't find a single one of your reads besides me.
When are you going to contribute this game hmm?
What are your reads?
but that's not true.
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On July 25 2015 02:46 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 18:49 Barakos wrote:[...] What I want to point out is disformations behavior. He has several posts (see spoilers below), saying he has shadowed player X in that game and player Y in this game and will reread all those games to get a read on ruxxar because his tone is so completely different from the other games. But when I come into the thread with fluff (something I never did in NSM X, where he played with me for the entire game), he doesn't pick it up at all and sees no difference in my behavior, even though he claims to be looking for meta-hints and stuff like that. The only thing he did was putting me to null and saying he wants to see more of me. This inconsistency makes me put him in the scum-corner for now. + Show Spoiler +On July 24 2015 08:21 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:13 n00bKing wrote:On July 24 2015 08:06 disformation wrote:Eh, I like this style/tone a lot more than the one he had in his two previous games. Meaning Himalayas and Gaiden, where he was scum? I didn't play in either of those games. How would you summarize his style/tone in them? Yes, I was shadowing a town player (Onegu in Himalayas and Half the Sky in Gaiden). Both games were pretty long, ruxXar's filters are 13 and 25 pages respectively so it is not that easy to summarize. But what I can remember: while he is good at marking arguments and sounding logically his posts often sound preachy. I also remember disliking a bunch of his posts in Himalayas because he was pretty aggressive/pushy with them. Will possibly reread his filters from both games at a later stage of this game. On July 24 2015 08:34 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Then I will be honored to be in your company.
Draw your pitch fork and stand by my side. Haven't even bothered to figure out where I put my pitchfork yet. But after shadowing a bunch of games where town lost, I believe a bit of scepticism to be very healthy.  Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 08:18 ruXxar wrote:
Together we will banish the non-believers known as scum.
Do not betray me or your faith will be sealed.
Stay true to the one belief you must keep in your heart and repeat this mantra in the darkest hours:
I am town. Do I smell a thinly veiled threat? Also currently skimming through your Himalayas for the posts I remember disliking. And I have to say that your play was pretty damn good. Like your interactions with HF for example. On July 24 2015 10:15 disformation wrote:
Going to bed. Hope I can sleep in this heat. -.-
Where I currently stand:
Breshke: Asking questions. Let us see what he does when he gets answers.
NocturneMage: Seems like an eager player trying to figure out how forum mafia works. Seems curious/inquisitive. town lean.
ruxXar: Basically opened up the thread with stuff to talk about. A lot of null stuff. Slight town as result.
n00bKing: did a few things for town cred. Unfortunately both(*) were super easy for mafia to do, too. So null.
barakos: hmmm... lets call it null for now. Want to see more from him.
Damdred: Just read his strong entry (his 2nd post). Like the post.
Also want to note that I shadowed town!Damdred in Holy Guardians Chapter 1 and he was mafia in Gaiden (where I shadowed town!HtS). So I might look into these two games later on. I remember his reads/thought progression to be very reasonable as town, so might pay extra attention to that. Town read as of now.
(*): a) asking me about ruxxars previous games. b) pointing out that I am unable to count.
PS: Also my 3rd game here. :D Okay, pointing out this inconsistency is fair enough. But I am quite confused as to why he gave me such a hard scumread for that... maybe to make sure I respond to this? Maybe he wanted to divert attention away from him, I think a few people called him scum just a page or two earlier? Anyway not a huge fan. Okay, why did I point out stuff with ruxXar and Damdred? Because I was sorta involved with them in two games each. I only "know" barakos from one game (NSM X). What do I remember barakos for from that game? - He was shot one night. N3 maybe?
- At one point I thought there might be scum between boxerfred and barakos.
- I had to look up his name a few times, because for some reason I always want to put an additional letter in there. Like barakdos.
And that's it... I think barakos and me had not much interaction/conversation in that game. So I have trouble remembering him. Don't remember much of Rels either, since he was shot super early. Remember having a hard town read on Rels, that is it. I remember a lot of the people I had interactions with or that were alive very long (boxerfred/sicklucker/27ninjabunnies/ticktock) and I remember Sulfurus, because I had a super wrong scum read on him. I remember Breshke because I was about to post a mad case on him and claimed cop. Then I looked at my case and realized all the things that bugged me made a lot of sense if he was cop. Since I remember so little of barakos maybe I should follow Rels question: Show nested quote +On July 24 2015 18:29 Rels wrote:
Leaving to eat very soon. To the guy or girl reading this:
If you are ruxxar, rayn, moosy or a host I asked you a question and would very much like an answer.
If you played or read Newbie X, I would like to have your thoughts on Barakos' filter compared to Newbie X.
And whoever you are, I would like to have your thoughts about my post on NocturneMage. And read Barakos filter from NSM X again. xD
Okay, reformating time, hope this is a bit clearer now:
Okay, pointing out this inconsistency is fair enough.
But I am quite confused as to why he gave me such a hard scumread for that... maybe to make sure I respond to this? Maybe he wanted to divert attention away from him, I think a few people called him scum just a page or two earlier? Anyway not a huge fan.
Okay, why did I point out stuff with ruxXar and Damdred?
Because I was sorta involved with them in two games each. I only "know" barakos from one game (NSM X).
Why did I not mention a lot of the other players I "know"?
Because I have less information on them imo. For example I was in only one game with barakos.
What do I remember barakos for from that game?
- He was shot one night. N3 maybe?
- At one point I thought there might be scum between boxerfred and barakos.
- I had to look up his name a few times, because for some reason I always want to put an additional letter in there. Like barakdos.
And that's it... I think barakos and me had not much interaction/conversation in NSM X. So I have trouble remembering him. Don't remember much of Rels either, since he was shot super early. Remember having a hard town read on Rels, that is it. I remember a lot of the people I had interactions with or that were alive very long (boxerfred/sicklucker/27ninjabunnies/ticktock) and I remember Sulfurus, because I had a super wrong scum read on him. I remember Breshke because I was about to post a mad case on him but he claimed cop. Then I looked at my case and realized all the things that bugged me made a lot of sense if he was cop.
Since I remember so little of barakos maybe I should follow Rels question:
On July 24 2015 18:29 Rels wrote:
Leaving to eat very soon. To the guy or girl reading this:
If you are ruxxar, rayn, moosy or a host I asked you a question and would very much like an answer.
If you played or read Newbie X, I would like to have your thoughts on Barakos' filter compared to Newbie X.
And whoever you are, I would like to have your thoughts about my post on NocturneMage.
And read Barakos filter from NSM X again. xD
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Why is noone voting for Barakos when he is lying?
also being scummy.
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Do you guys think Barakos is really reaction testing people when he specifically points a finger on me, when my reaction is to vote for him he has nothing to say about it?
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On July 25 2015 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 02:48 ruXxar wrote:
Moosy, you threw a lot of shit on me for not giving any reads.
Yet I can't find a single one of your reads besides me.
When are you going to contribute this game hmm?
What are your reads? but that's not true.
Where did he give his reads?
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On July 25 2015 03:14 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2015 03:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 25 2015 02:48 ruXxar wrote:
Moosy, you threw a lot of shit on me for not giving any reads.
Yet I can't find a single one of your reads besides me.
When are you going to contribute this game hmm?
What are your reads? but that's not true. Where did he give his reads?
inbetween lines.
read more carefully.
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On July 25 2015 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you guys think Barakos is really reaction testing people when he specifically points a finger on me, when my reaction is to vote for him he has nothing to say about it?
I honeslty thought he was just aping my reason for doing doing poetry.
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