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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 13:49 GMT
#2098
On July 31 2015 22:48 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 22:44 Rels wrote:
On July 31 2015 22:42 disformation wrote:
On July 31 2015 22:31 Rels wrote:
Yeah that Sulfurus post is weird.

Though not as weird as noobking claiming he has "critical information" then not delivering it, in a situation where we have one confirmed vet and one claimed cop.


Yeah. I think he is damaging town with withholding that information at this point because it makes him super suspicious and all that arguing about him is not helping town at all. -.-
If he is town he is a pretty easy misslynch at this point.
So I'd rather have him spill the beans soonish.
But I think there is a very high chance of at least one of NM or Sulf being scum, so lynching them first would be pretty good.

Yeah but we should pressure him all the same.
If he's town he will say his information.
If he's mafia he will have to make one up, possibly slipping.

I agree with at least one of NM or Sulfu being mafia though. Maybe both.

Not having filter is soooooo horrible. Wanted to check if Breshke was on Sulfu's first mafia list. I think Breshke was town in this list right ?


Just scroll up on this page, disformation quoted it.

Wow disfo pretty cool you managed to find it. (= TY
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:01 GMT
#2101
Disfo you just said this:
On July 31 2015 22:42 disformation wrote:
Yeah. I think he is damaging town with withholding that information at this point because it makes him super suspicious and all that arguing about him is not helping town at all. -.-


If we pressure noobking with the fear of being lynched, and he's town, he has to give his info to play in accord of win condition. Won't you agree to do it ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:03 GMT
#2102
Yeah it is consistent. Too much consistent. Only one change in three days ...

Mafia usually has a much harder time to change their reads than townie. Static reads that don't evolve with the game is scum indicative.

If noobking finally shares his info, I would lynch Sulfu over Mages I think. Non-evolving read + super opportunistic vote on noobking.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:04 GMT
#2104
BTW: impressed you managed a single post without filters in that super short time!
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:04 GMT
#2105
On July 31 2015 23:04 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:
Disfo you just said this:
On July 31 2015 22:42 disformation wrote:
Yeah. I think he is damaging town with withholding that information at this point because it makes him super suspicious and all that arguing about him is not helping town at all. -.-


If we pressure noobking with the fear of being lynched, and he's town, he has to give his info to play in accord of win condition. Won't you agree to do it ?


It isn't going to work Rels

If you mean "noobking isn't going to share his info", this means he's mafia. That's it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:06 GMT
#2106
That would makes sense actually.

- noobking originally said there was no way if I was cop that I would check him
- he couldn't say his reason 'cause it would "harm the town"
- now he has said his reason for saying the first thing
- but he still haven't said the "harming-town" reason

Super weird.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:16 GMT
#2110
On July 31 2015 23:13 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:
Disfo you just said this:
On July 31 2015 22:42 disformation wrote:
Yeah. I think he is damaging town with withholding that information at this point because it makes him super suspicious and all that arguing about him is not helping town at all. -.-


If we pressure noobking with the fear of being lynched, and he's town, he has to give his info to play in accord of win condition. Won't you agree to do it ?


Well. Problem is: I do not know how much time I am going to have today evening. Might just miss EoD or be on phone EoD. So I am not rally down to play some switcheroo games today. =/

Too bad =X be careful with phone, I know I can't connect with mine on TL cause I can't see the login popup.

On July 31 2015 23:13 disformation wrote:
Also I fear that he is town and thinks that he IS playing to his win-con.

Then we have to educate him.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:19 GMT
#2114
On July 31 2015 23:15 Breshke wrote:
Don't get me wrong I agree with what you guys are doing but I am hesitant after moosey mod killing himself for like 0 reason.

Can someone confirm for me that we have 4 more mislynches until we lose I think that is right but i feel like it is way too many

Let's make the math together, assuming only mislynches. I removed moosy as a town member so right now we have:
7-2
(mislynch 1 + NK)
5-2
(mislynch 2 + NK)
3-2 <= LYLO
So we can afford 2 mislynches.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:21 GMT
#2116
On July 31 2015 23:17 Breshke wrote:
It is weird that sulf organised the "last 4 lynches" when if any of his people he listed are scum he would have 5? Easy oversight but still weird.

I'm honestly indifferent to a NM or Noobking lynch today.

Did anyne ever answer why people were saying they couldnt be mafia together?

No he's right on that, with two mislynches and two succesful lynches we win.

On the NM + noobking team, I was having a hard time 'cause noobking said his two lynches were NM and Sulfu. And he's pushing NM right now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:32 GMT
#2123
On July 31 2015 23:29 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 23:21 Rels wrote:
On July 31 2015 23:17 Breshke wrote:
It is weird that sulf organised the "last 4 lynches" when if any of his people he listed are scum he would have 5? Easy oversight but still weird.

I'm honestly indifferent to a NM or Noobking lynch today.

Did anyne ever answer why people were saying they couldnt be mafia together?

No he's right on that, with two mislynches and two succesful lynches we win.

On the NM + noobking team, I was having a hard time 'cause noobking said his two lynches were NM and Sulfu. And he's pushing NM right now.


Rels you remember day 1 that n00bking wanted to lynch you above anyone else.
You were trying to get nocturne lynched day 1 with your first big post. calling hims cum.

Then look at this logic and why n00bking is voting for NM:

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:
What does it mean when your hardest scum read is trying to bury another person?

a) the attacked person is likely town
b) the attacked person is likely mafia.

Let me know when you figure it out.


If n00bking really thought you are scum, and he now votes for NM, then it means that he thinks you as scum bussed your scum partner nocturne immediately when you entered the game.
I find that very unlikely mafia play, or what do you think?

I don't think he thinks I'm scum anymore so I don't see the problem.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:40 GMT
#2126
I agree his read change of me was weird. And I think everybody knows how bad I found his constant pushing of me. But now he's town reading me (I think), so I have no problem with him pushing NM.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:43 GMT
#2129
On July 31 2015 23:41 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 23:16 Rels wrote:
On July 31 2015 23:13 disformation wrote:
On July 31 2015 23:01 Rels wrote:
Disfo you just said this:
On July 31 2015 22:42 disformation wrote:
Yeah. I think he is damaging town with withholding that information at this point because it makes him super suspicious and all that arguing about him is not helping town at all. -.-


If we pressure noobking with the fear of being lynched, and he's town, he has to give his info to play in accord of win condition. Won't you agree to do it ?


Well. Problem is: I do not know how much time I am going to have today evening. Might just miss EoD or be on phone EoD. So I am not rally down to play some switcheroo games today. =/

Too bad =X be careful with phone, I know I can't connect with mine on TL cause I can't see the login popup.


Just checked. Did work fine with the old tl.net, but I can't login with the new one. GG.

Found a solution on the new website thread: open the login page in a new tab (so in phone you need to push the login link a few seconds).
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:49 GMT
#2131
On July 31 2015 23:46 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
I agree his read change of me was weird. And I think everybody knows how bad I found his constant pushing of me. But now he's town reading me (I think), so I have no problem with him pushing NM.


When did he ever call you town?
He only stopped pushing you because he couldn't anymore.

I don't remember him ever calling you town or putting you on a town list.

When asked about his lynch list he didn't put me in.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:53 GMT
#2133
On July 31 2015 23:51 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 23:49 Rels wrote:
On July 31 2015 23:46 ruXxar wrote:
On July 31 2015 23:40 Rels wrote:
I agree his read change of me was weird. And I think everybody knows how bad I found his constant pushing of me. But now he's town reading me (I think), so I have no problem with him pushing NM.


When did he ever call you town?
He only stopped pushing you because he couldn't anymore.

I don't remember him ever calling you town or putting you on a town list.

When asked about his lynch list he didn't put me in.


If he tried to put you in his lynch list I would think he's an idiot for trying to lynch confirmed town.
Would you not think the same?

No one would try to lynch you because you are basically 99% confirmed town.
No one is going to put you in their lynch list, town or scum.

You are saying noobking is scumreading me but didn't put me in his lynch list.

Confirm ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:55 GMT
#2135
On July 31 2015 23:54 ruXxar wrote:
n00bking is not an idiot.
He knows he has 0% chance of lynching you, and there is no point in pushing you anymore, even if he thinks you are scum.
He would not put you on a lynch list because he would look like an idiot if he did.

So don't affirm he's scum reading me when he didn't state he did.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 14:59 GMT
#2138
On July 31 2015 23:57 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 23:55 Rels wrote:
On July 31 2015 23:54 ruXxar wrote:
n00bking is not an idiot.
He knows he has 0% chance of lynching you, and there is no point in pushing you anymore, even if he thinks you are scum.
He would not put you on a lynch list because he would look like an idiot if he did.

So don't affirm he's scum reading me when he didn't state he did.


He never said he STOPPED scum reading you.
Show me evidence where he called you town.

No. I'll let him state his clear opinion of me right now. I didn't see any evidence he scum read me since D2.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 15:08 GMT
#2140
OK then attack his reasons to town read me. I agree his switch on me seems to be based on the rb only.

BUT your orginal accusation was that it was weird that:
- noobking scumread me
- noobking scumread someone I've pushed

The first part is not true, so you should drop it.

Now if you want to do a post detailling exactly how his read on me is not logical, go ahead.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 15:17 GMT
#2143
On August 01 2015 00:14 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 00:08 Rels wrote:
OK then attack his reasons to town read me. I agree his switch on me seems to be based on the rb only.

BUT your orginal accusation was that it was weird that:
- noobking scumread me
- noobking scumread someone I've pushed

The first part is not true, so you should drop it.

Now if you want to do a post detailling exactly how his read on me is not logical, go ahead.


Where did he town-read you?

He didn't mention me when asked about his lynch list.

Maybe he doesn't townread me, but he's not scumreading me in his posts. Maybe he does in his head but I don't think you can prove that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 15:23 GMT
#2145
On August 01 2015 00:20 ruXxar wrote:
Remember n00bkings big town case on himself.?

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2015 17:37 n00bKing wrote:
REASONS TO THINK N00BKING IS TOWN

Like I said, ONE post. And I expect this will be the LAST time I compose any defense of myself. It'll take some hard work for anyone to come up with a NEW justification for how I can be scum, that isn't addressed in this post. So, since this could be the LAST time you see me defending myself, please read carefully.

ruXxar, Rels, Scott, Sulfurus (whomever among you is Town)...let's see what kinds of responses you can muster. And if you find portions that can't be answered to, consider what that means.


So this says to me that he doesn't have a town-read on you.

He took the 4 people voting for him in this sentence.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 31 2015 15:42 GMT
#2148
Agree!

Leaving work but will check what's happening on phone. My vote will be on noobking until he spills out whatever crucial info he has. Then, if that info is not stupid or obviously made up, I'll switch to sulfu or mages. Would prefer Sulfu as he didn't change his reads at all this game + the vote on noobking was opportunistic, but OK with a lynch on mages as well.

See ya!
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