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On July 31 2015 03:09 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2015 03:05 MoosyDoosy wrote:On July 31 2015 02:58 Rels wrote:
Seriously though.
This Moosy attitude is the opposite of townie
Here is what a townie would do:
Choice 1: not sure about Rels' case, but use one of the remaining mislynches on noobking to check.
Choice 2: Rels' case is super wrong: fight against it and push his own case.
Choice 3: Rels' case is so wrong it can only be explained by Rels being mafia: make a case on Rels and push him.
Here is what a townie would not do:
Martyring.
Menacing to get modkilled.
Ad hom attacks. So...how dumb are you going to feel when I flip town? Anyone would resort to ad hom attacks after everyone literally just says that they didn't listen to your posts and that they won't listen to your reasoning. And I already did do Choice 2...But you won't read it and listen to my reasoning...Oh wait. That sounds familiar... I will be very angry at you for playing like that: Martyring. Menacing to get modkilled. Ad hom attacks. Still can't wait for it though.
See. You're already ignoring how I said I already performed Choice 2. I also warned you about tunneling but you won't listen. I literally warned all 3 people who tunneled to not tunnel. You, n00bKing, and ruXxar.
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Epitaph Post Now That I Have Flipped:
ggz all it was fun playing. I'm glad to see town is winning this. ^.^
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I don't want to play a game with ruXxar again so long as he promises not to behave the way he does.
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I say whatever I want as town because I am town and it's your fault for not seeing that I'm hunting for scum. In my very first newbie game, I was practically in a scum mindset even though I was town because I wanted to look town so bad. In this game and my second one I said whatever I wanted and let my actions speak for themselves. Like sure my behavior looks bad but if you look at the content of my posts you can tell that I'm town. Same concept with TicTock. He raised decent points against me which made me hard townread him.
I regret that I refused to re-read n00bKing at a certain point and I've realized the scum mindset of letting others townshield. But part of that was because Rels + ruXxar absolutely refused to budge and acted like my opinions didn't matter. If you look at Page 92 and 93, I CLEARLY refute ruXxar's points but he refuses to listen. Like, what is the point of posting if you aren't going to listen.
In my second Mafia game, everyone listened to each other and although the talk was slow, it was fruitful because everyone was considering and re-considering. Here, ruXxar/Rels got too tunneled and disformation/Damdred weren't around anywhere to stop them.
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On August 04 2015 09:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I say whatever I want as town because I am town and it's your fault for not seeing that I'm hunting for scum. In my very first newbie game, I was practically in a scum mindset even though I was town because I wanted to look town so bad. In this game and my second one I said whatever I wanted and let my actions speak for themselves. Like sure my behavior looks bad but if you look at the content of my posts you can tell that I'm town. Same concept with TicTock. He raised decent points against me which made me hard townread him.
I regret that I refused to re-read n00bKing at a certain point and I've realized the scum mindset of letting others townshield. But part of that was because Rels + ruXxar absolutely refused to budge and acted like my opinions didn't matter. If you look at Page 92 and 93, I CLEARLY refute ruXxar's points but he refuses to listen. Like, what is the point of posting if you aren't going to listen.
In my second Mafia game, everyone listened to each other and although the talk was slow, it was fruitful because everyone was considering and re-considering. Here, ruXxar/Rels got too tunneled and disformation/Damdred weren't around anywhere to stop them. well the first paragraph is just not true.
k my coach was wrong then. I'll think like scum and make myself look townie as possible next game. Thanks for the advice.
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On August 04 2015 09:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If your coach told you to shout to ruxxar all game long for no fucking reason he is just an asshole.
Do you know our history? In our first newbie game he acted the same way to me and didn't listen at all to anyone or me.
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Every response was literally: "cuz ur scum yeah. really obvious buddy lol. mafia 200% mate ur points are garbage."
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On August 04 2015 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not care about your history. Why should that matter?
You were all on his throat for no reason all game.
It's bad.
Why should i care about your advice either?
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On August 04 2015 09:37 Breshke wrote:
Moosy if someone is tunnelling on you stop trying to convince them you are town and just start pushing someone you think is mafia.
Also never ever get yourself mod killed again on purpose like it ruins the spirit of the game
I was trying to do that at some points but gave up later on lol. I also knew where this was going because I was actually very reasonable in our first game together but he refused to listen. In this one I just saved time and bashed him earlier.
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On August 04 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 04 2015 09:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not care about your history. Why should that matter?
You were all on his throat for no reason all game.
It's bad. Why should i care about your advice either? Because apparently you are bad. idk, do not take it, i dont care.. you certainly do not do what you are told to so you will not anyways.
I am very open to suggestions about how to play Mafia so long as they are not phrased as: u suck l2p
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On August 04 2015 09:42 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I say whatever I want as town because I am town and it's your fault for not seeing that I'm hunting for scum. In my very first newbie game, I was practically in a scum mindset even though I was town because I wanted to look town so bad. In this game and my second one I said whatever I wanted and let my actions speak for themselves. Like sure my behavior looks bad but if you look at the content of my posts you can tell that I'm town. Same concept with TicTock. He raised decent points against me which made me hard townread him.
I regret that I refused to re-read n00bKing at a certain point and I've realized the scum mindset of letting others townshield. But part of that was because Rels + ruXxar absolutely refused to budge and acted like my opinions didn't matter. If you look at Page 92 and 93, I CLEARLY refute ruXxar's points but he refuses to listen. Like, what is the point of posting if you aren't going to listen.
In my second Mafia game, everyone listened to each other and although the talk was slow, it was fruitful because everyone was considering and re-considering. Here, ruXxar/Rels got too tunneled and disformation/Damdred weren't around anywhere to stop them. Here's the thing that's hard to remember in the moment. Even when you say whatever you want as town, it doesn't make what he's doing wrong. He had a bad read on you. But how you approached that read, made it exceptionally hard for him to get out of his biased read. Being tunneled and biased can be quite hard to get away from; and it takes both players working together to end that situation generally. It's honestly both your faults imo, but I had no stake in the issue so that's easy for me to see. To be fair, ruXxar/Rels got tunneled on mafia for a mix of good and bad reasons. You got tunneled on a bad read which drug the whole issue out in a really negative way. Like if you had evaluated some of their reasons, you could've gotten out of your bad read. If n00bKing was town, if you had approached them differently then you potentially could have prevented a mislynch by being able to explain your read in a way they could understand and relate to. Trust me, me and Rayn are two of the more cockshore, shoot from the hip, likely-to-shoot-off-for-no-good-reason type of guys around at this point. But if you want to improve, then you need to understand that how you approach the game and other players (even when you're town) makes a major difference on how effective you are. I can't speak for Rayn, but I know that Artanis has said this about me and it's something that I've noted about myself. I play much better when I don't emotionally invest heavily into a game. When I'm at my best, I give very few fucks about it. When I get that invested, it's easy to slip into an awful tunnel that I can and should find my way out of. Part of that is listening to other players, both the ones you're arguing with at the time and other players observing you.
Thank you. So long as ruXxar is willing to re-evaluate his reads and not throw them aside like garbage I will do the same as well.
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On August 04 2015 09:40 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:On August 04 2015 09:37 Breshke wrote:
Moosy if someone is tunnelling on you stop trying to convince them you are town and just start pushing someone you think is mafia.
Also never ever get yourself mod killed again on purpose like it ruins the spirit of the game
I was trying to do that at some points but gave up later on lol. I also knew where this was going because I was actually very reasonable in our first game together but he refused to listen. In this one I just saved time and bashed him earlier. Ruxxar is one player though so I don't see why you would stop pushing your reads because of him
I don't know. Maybe because the only players posting the whole time were ruXxar/Rels while you were literally nonexistent.
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On August 04 2015 09:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote + can't speak for Rayn, but I know that Artanis has said this about me and it's something that I've noted about myself. I play much better when I don't emotionally invest heavily into a game. yes you seem to be the same Moosy. Take a break, read, and then post. You so not need to tunnel someone you think is bad. It almost got you lynched two days in a row. Now what does that tell you? Take a break from a game and re-evaluate. Come back with a leveled head.
Yeah. And I've decided to play my next game from a scum mindset of making myself look as townie as possible.
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On August 04 2015 10:52 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2015 09:07 ruXxar wrote:
I want to also apologize if people found my play style offensive.
I harbor no I'll will towards anyone for what they said or did in the game(moosy plz I love u <3) This might be my favorite post in the thread. Moosy demands your address so that he can come and murder you in your home. And you apologize and ask for forgiveness. :D
Not to mention he makes several bad manner posts saying the game is over and sweeping everything I say under the rug. <3 I just love the kid.
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On August 04 2015 17:46 Rels wrote:Moosy: so angry at you. It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, the way you behaved this game was super toxic. Of course, it isn't helped by the fact that you were dead wrong on that noobking godly read.
And I'm not talking about only D2. If I was the host, I would have warned you D1 when you clearly stated you thought ruxxar was a stupid person unable to have smart thoughts. The way you treated people, and especially ruxxar who played a million times better than you, is sooo bad, and I'm shocked Damdred tought a warning was fine. Plus you whining about people not reading your posts; WTF, you cannot answer every accusation by "I'm mafia" and some versions of "you're tard" and expect people to read what you wrote.
Furthermore, your martyring was hilarious. Especially complaining about me being tunneled. If you have read the game, you would have seen that Breshke (that was voting you along with diso) asked me whom of noobking and moosy was 100% mafia, and I clearly stated noobking was, and that if I was wrong on moosy NM was the last mafia.
Finally, your post-game posts not being "I apologize" but "I won't play with ruxxar again unless he changed" is the last drop. Never playing with you again.
k. I'm glad we barely interacted at all in this game too. Have fun in the future.
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On August 04 2015 23:59 Damdred wrote:
Though I laughed a bit to hard at my own joke when you made that great post rux and I posted rux made god post must be mafia
l0l best post ever.
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