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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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Half the Sky
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TJHuggins
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On July 17 2015 08:51 TJHuggins wrote: wooo This had better be you getting excited to share those thoughts/information with us... | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
So I think that confirms that we are in a Doc/ Cop setup. Pretty unlikely we have a Vigi from a no kill N2 and only the mafia kill N1. I suppose there is a slim chance that they got roleblocked, but it seems unlikely that they held a shot N1 and got blocked lastnight. I am 100% sure that we have no Veteren. Mafia would absolutely RB their NK target if there was a Vet to avoid loosing their KP. So we know we have a Doc who successfully saved the NK target. Like the only other explanation here is that Mafia are bad and didn't RB their kill with a Vet out there, or that they oddly with held their KP. Neither of those make much sense, and either way it doesn't change the position Town is in today. While it might be a good idea for roles to claim and give Town more info to work with, there is no pressing need that I see for them to do so. Blues please use your own judgment if giving yourself up (claiming means you're 100%the NK tonight) will aid town more than your continued actions. This will largely depend on how useful you believe your intel to be for town. Example: A cop with no red checks should probably hold off claiming, unless the green checks and your claim will drastically aid towns lynch today. Again, use your own best judgment. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
There is no reason not to tell us if you were roleblocked. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
For now I'm mainly staring at TJHuggins for that "critical" information which seems to not be "critical" enough that he says it'll be "okay for town" if he dies during night time. Either way he's really fishy and I don't mind him dying. Explain yourself. I also agree with people saying we have no vigilante. Medic <3 ##Vote TJHuggins | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
I'll look over what people said about WonnaPlay and analyze his filter again since they're contradicting my town read on him. I'd like to ask n00bKing to not get so tunneled and relook over filters. I'd like Half the Sky to continue whatever she's doing. + Show Spoiler + I'd like TL to place a little gender icon next to names so I know which pronouns to use. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On July 17 2015 10:15 MoosyDoosy wrote: Also, @mod, please post "Day 3" on the voting thread.... rsoul best mod <3 | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Right now I'd most like to lynch Scott or SW, with Tj following somewhere behind them. I'm kinda giving TJ the benefit of the doubt atm, but he needs to step it up pretty fast if he wants to keep that benefit. | ||
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Grokken
Sweden245 Posts
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On July 17 2015 10:41 Tictock wrote: I'm still at work for a few more hours, so going to be a bit before I can get into much analyses or explain my reads in much detail. Right now I'd most like to lynch Scott or SW, with Tj following somewhere behind them. I'm kinda giving TJ the benefit of the doubt atm, but he needs to step it up pretty fast if he wants to keep that benefit. Please explain your lynches on those two especially on silentwarrior after you get off from work. | ||
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Grokken
Sweden245 Posts
On July 17 2015 07:37 Half the Sky wrote: I want to hear more from Grokken when he returns, who is most likely scum: TJH, SW, WP, Tictock. I said earlier that I didn't have any actual scumreads apart from Ghandi, and not much has changed since. I still think TJH is the most likely to be scum, based on your reads on him earlier. The other 3 voted for Ghandi to get lynched even though he was town. I made the same mistake though, and the other 3 haven't really been acting scummy, so it's hard for me to tell. If TJH flips mafia, I think we can move on to SW/WP/TT. Scott voted for him while the votes were close between him and Ghandi, I don't think it's likely that he would vote for his scumbuddy over Ghandi, so if TJH is mafia, Scott is likely town. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On July 17 2015 11:44 MoosyDoosy wrote: Please explain your lynches on those two especially on silentwarrior after you get off from work. My read on SW comes largely from when I dove into his filter. I explained my read in this post. QUOTE]On July 17 2015 03:08 Tictock wrote: Actually, SW you should tell us why you think TJ is scum. A quick browse of your one page filter shows me that this is your initial read on TJ On July 13 2015 08:25 silentwarrior wrote: I also lean town on TJHuggins, since he posted that sulfurus was his second on scum list. This was also before any of the voting began, though after sulfurus posted that super scummy post and was tagged for it by Half the sky. Still a good townlean for me. Then on D2 when TJ is being pushed by most of the thread you post this. On July 15 2015 04:35 silentwarrior wrote: Scumlean: scott31337 TJHuggins Probably scum: GhandiEAGLE You never mentioned TJ in between those 2 posts. What changed your read? I also noted that your Day 1 Vote was super weak. You afk voted on NHM based on your entrance posts... On July 12 2015 08:23 silentwarrior wrote: Hey guys, sorry for being late. So I just read trough the thread and here are some of my thoughts now. First, fidei seems like a town read to me right now. He seems to genuienly want to create an enviroment that is good for town. His first post makes this obvious. Have to disagree on his stance however. Imo, most games suffer from people not saying enough than the opposite. My background is pretty newbie. Have been in a few forum mafia games, but mostly i play IRL. On July 12 2015 08:33 silentwarrior wrote: Ok, so my first scumread when reading was NydusHerMain. First it was that she voted for fidei, for a post which i feel was very towny. She then didn't explain herself, and hasn't posted anything since that. I will be interested to hear what she says about that when she returns. I also found some of what moosy said suspicous, but most of that has already been said by noobking, The most scummy thing to me was that he said he wanted to change his play, then wondered how someone could read that as. If you are town one game and then make a point to say that you change your play, then logically you will play as mafia. Which looks really bad. You basically took one look at the game, made your vote then never reevaluated. You even setup your vote by opening with a weak townread on Fidei then attack someone attacking your townread, but you never pushed the idea or anything. In fact you just afk'd the rest of the day. I'd like to hear some more detail about your read flip on TJ please. Also interested if your neutral read on WP has changed at all.[/QUOTE] I would still like SW to answer the questions I posted there. Not sure how much time I have tonight, but I want to read over Scott and Grok's filters. I also owe you guys a pretty full explanation on my TJ read. I was really hoping he'd be posting more today as right now I've got lines of thought bringing me to opposite reads on him. I'm going to take my time with those posts. Both because I want to hear more from Scott/SW/TJ but also because I want to make sure I've got solid reasoning for my reads. I also want to respond to n00bs posts from last night. ^^^^ That is more or less my To-Do list for this day phase, please hold me accountable for any of that I do not follow through on. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
On July 17 2015 13:31 Tictock wrote: My read on SW comes largely from when I dove into his filter. I explained my read in this post. I would still like SW to answer the questions I posted there. Not sure how much time I have tonight, but I want to read over Scott and Grok's filters. I also owe you guys a pretty full explanation on my TJ read. I was really hoping he'd be posting more today as right now I've got lines of thought bringing me to opposite reads on him. I'm going to take my time with those posts. Both because I want to hear more from Scott/SW/TJ but also because I want to make sure I've got solid reasoning for my reads. I also want to respond to n00bs posts from last night. ^^^^ That is more or less my To-Do list for this day phase, please hold me accountable for any of that I do not follow through on. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
I find it unlikely that scum hammers town in a mislynch, but that's no reason to ignore him. Also I ignored SW most of D2 but after reading his filter I found he deserved a lot more attention, not making that mistake again. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On July 17 2015 07:07 Half the Sky wrote: Cheers for helping out Ras <3 Why would you call her "Ras?" | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Shortened nickname. First 1-2 games we had together we developed a nickname for her - Rasputin, sometimes I call her that or just Ras, a few call her by her first name, those that know her outside the game. Next bit is for TJHuggins On July 13 2015 06:31 TJHuggins wrote: Figured I would post where I am at before EOD (for obvious reasons). Here's a scum list for me right now in order: 1. MoosyDoosy 2. Sulfuras 3. Grokken Scott, NHM, and silentwarrior are all in a 3rd category for me which includes players that haven't impressed me with their content and have not left any last impact on me. Might be mafia, might be town. I would rather wait until day 2 to deal with this group since it may give them more time to provide content for me to figure out their alignment. Personally, I'd rather kill someone whos acting scummy than someone whos just a crap shoot (actually if this were video mafia I would pressure them and force them to talk but I can't really do that here.) If at EOD 2 I still have nothing on those three, I would advocate to shooting, cop checking, lynching them. I would caution against vig shooting or cop checking any of the lurkers this night because I don't think it will really help progress our scum leads much. A vig shot is better saved on a clearly scummy person (same logic as above) and cop check better on someone whos a bit more active. On July 16 2015 08:22 TJHuggins wrote: This was actually one of the major reasons I put him as #2 on my mafia list on day 1. I thought that it was probable he was caught and a lie and was tying to "talk" his way out of it. On July 16 2015 08:25 TJHuggins wrote: He characterizes it as a "mistake." But what he is describing isn't really what I would call a mistake; it's more like - I'm not sure what to call it- but not a mistake. If what he says is true, his thought appeared to get mumble jumbled just due to the time that passed between the time when he first started typing his post to when he finished. There's nothing he could do to avoid that really. It seems odd to call that a "mistake." So TJHuggins, Sulfurus is gone now obviously. Aside from the information you've been pinged from (the so called critical information) where do you stand on your reads? - Where do you stand on MD and Grokken? - Who are your remaining two scummers and why? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On July 17 2015 06:17 scott31337 wrote: WonnaPlay would be the opposite, with top scumming me. "1] Scott - Gets defended by some people, without him having done anything. I think one of the people talking for him is atleast scum, defending scum. It would also explain the post Sulfurus made about "unvalid vote" and would even explain the night kill on Kelsier (if what you guys saying is true about veterans killing Kelsier). He isn't even AFK, but because he's afraid from HtS and therefore he is lurking, which raises alarmbells all over the place for me.. 2] Ghandi - too sketchy for my taste. The reason I don't have Ghandi on my #1 is that his list looks pretty decent. I'd agree on most points with him there, but who knows if he turns around again after that.. Also his conclusion on Scott being town is totally unwarranted. If Scott turns out to be scum, then Ghandi is one aswell. 3] TJH - made some weird posts during the end of the day regarding the votes, but I could see him being legitimately frustrated about his idea of different rules. I do think that HtS made some solid points, which I can't ignore since she was spot on in the last day. He's also very quiet since that day.. " [...] Tictock - his last game made me pretty paranoid. He did a quick vote for Wonna (which I don't care for) but there isn't much else that sticks out at me about him. No tunnels either. Null/scumlean Can you explain how the WP read especially from the perspective of a first timer TL newbie, would make him exclusively mafia? And do you have any thoughts about Tictock's read progression? | ||
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