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Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 05:09 GMT
#792
I also want to point out that if we lynch TJH and he flips cop, you know for certain that I and SW are the last 2 mafia, and town wins. It's a win-win situation.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 05:28 GMT
#797
On July 18 2015 14:24 n00bKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 11:18 Half the Sky wrote:
Additionally TJH ninja voting would be justified if he had a red check. Plus scum are a man down already and a NK down already so it'd make no sense for him to trade himself in 1 for 1 if he were scum.

It's better than trading himself off 1 for 0, which is what he appeared to be headed toward. If his fake claim gets even ONE mislynch before he goes down, instead of him just being the lynch today, that's at least a LITTLE improvement.

And even if the real Cop counterclaims and we pick the right one (as we are going to) it at least outs the Cop for them, so that if the remaining Mafia member is the roleblocker, the Cop will be nullified from now on.

I think it makes sense for TJ to go ahead and make this fake claim. And I think it's exactly what he had in mind, way back when he first made mention of his "essential information."


Yeah this makes me think TJ is the goon and not the roleblocker.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 05:30 GMT
#798
Voted for TJH.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 05:48 GMT
#800
WP, do you think scott is mafia?
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 05:57 GMT
#801
Not sure why I'm even asking, seems like the only way we can lose now is if HtS/n00b/Fidei is the last mafia, which is unlikely to say the least.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 09:26 GMT
#806
On July 18 2015 17:43 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey Grokken, just one question, why did you check TT over TJH?


I figured he would likely get lynched anyway. Knowing the alignment of someone who's dead doesnt help much.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 13:11 GMT
#825
On July 18 2015 20:07 Fidei86 wrote:
PS you can all call me James "Foolishness" Jones from now on. Boom.


I have no idea if you're serious, but if you are, these are probably the most stacked teams ever.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 13:26 GMT
#827
I don't think it makes sense for SW to get worked up about getting fake red checked, since I already counterclaimed. It's obvious that we're lynching TJH and not him. I'm not sure if that's enough reason for me to think he is mafia though. It would be very risky for TJH to fake a red check on SW because:

1. If the real cop waits until the next day to counterclaim, mafia loses.
2. If the real cop has already checked SW, mafia loses.

It's still not impossible of course, seeing how the mafia is in a terrible spot. You have to take risks when youre behind.


I was actually hesitating to counter claim. I didn't have a check on SW, so I didn't actually know if he was mafia or not. If he was town, I wouldn't have to counter claim at all, since town would figure out TJH is mafia after the mislynch. I would also get another check without risking a roleblock. The only way this would be bad is if I get night killed, but I don't think I was a high prio target for the mafia with the way I was posting. In the end I went with the safer play. Even after claiming, the only way we lose is if HtS, n00b, or Fidei is the last mafia. No need to go for the risky win when you can go for the safe win.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 13:38 GMT
#828
On July 18 2015 22:17 Half the Sky wrote:
James is probably messing with us. He is probably the last Mafia.
/tinfoil



(Yes Fidei's name is actually James...I play Dota too much with him. <3 Maybe you can join us too Grokken if you don't mind 3k scrubs )

Teams being stacked is very possible. Teams are RNGed by most hosts. Skill is irrelevant.


Sure. I play with friends who are 3k all the time, it doesn't really bother me.

I know teams are random, but damn did we get lucky with the RNG. Not only did we get a bunch of strong players on the same team, we also managed to lynch the GF day one and confirm you as town (although I guess the lynch on Sulfurus was just as much skill as luck).


Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 13:51 GMT
#831
On July 18 2015 22:39 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 22:11 Grokken wrote:
On July 18 2015 20:07 Fidei86 wrote:
PS you can all call me James "Foolishness" Jones from now on. Boom.


I have no idea if you're serious, but if you are, these are probably the most stacked teams ever.


<3

The fact that you would even entertain the fact that I might be Foolishness is a massive compliment.


You're welcome, I guess. I've never played with Foolishness though, I just heard he was good at mafia. Also english is not my first language and i misinterpreted what you said. I was kind of confused at first and thought you were a smurf account or something. But then I realized you were just using his name cause he is good at mafia. Kinda like calling yourself James "Dendi" Jones to say you're good at dota
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 13:54 GMT
#834
On July 18 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Dang...I was about to say TJ's cop play was too abysmal and we should look into if he's actually cop because of the way he seemed to intend to show he was cop but I guess it's fine the way it is now. I hate changing my vote so many times but here's my faith in you n00bKing. Voted for TJ.


You don't need any faith though. Actually it would be better for town if TJH flips cop, because that would confirm me and SW as the last 2 mafia .
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 13:58 GMT
#835
I suddenly feel a lot less hesistant to post. Maybe it's because I don't have to worry about when to claim, maybe it's because I don't have to worry about anyone scumreading me.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 14:00 GMT
#837
On July 18 2015 22:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2015 22:26 Grokken wrote:
I don't think it makes sense for SW to get worked up about getting fake red checked, since I already counterclaimed. It's obvious that we're lynching TJH and not him. I'm not sure if that's enough reason for me to think he is mafia though. It would be very risky for TJH to fake a red check on SW because:

1. If the real cop waits until the next day to counterclaim, mafia loses.
2. If the real cop has already checked SW, mafia loses.

It's still not impossible of course, seeing how the mafia is in a terrible spot. You have to take risks when youre behind.


I was actually hesitating to counter claim. I didn't have a check on SW, so I didn't actually know if he was mafia or not. If he was town, I wouldn't have to counter claim at all, since town would figure out TJH is mafia after the mislynch. I would also get another check without risking a roleblock. The only way this would be bad is if I get night killed, but I don't think I was a high prio target for the mafia with the way I was posting. In the end I went with the safer play. Even after claiming, the only way we lose is if HtS, n00b, or Fidei is the last mafia. No need to go for the risky win when you can go for the safe win.

OR.......just go ahead and check silentwarrior during night time! Then we know if he's telling the truth or not.


I can do that if TJH flips roleblocker. If he flips goon the last mafia will roleblock me.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 18 2015 18:23 GMT
#848
I agree that if either HtS, Fidei, or n00b is mafia, Fidei is by far the most likely. However there are still reasons to think that he is town based on the day 1 voting. I'm not sure I agree with lynching him over scott/WP at this point.
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
July 19 2015 16:24 GMT
#895
If anyone wants to play DotA they can add me on steam, just search for Grokken, im the one with a japanese dude as the profile picture.
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