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Town read; pushing me for my admittedly shitty posting when there was no real consideration of it earlier is pretty darn town. 2) WonnaPlay Lurk City, hard to know if spooked or noob, but sketchy either way. Because its a noob game all lurkers basically stay in neutral range, instead of my usual neutral-lurker range. 3) N00bking. Neutral; dont like his filter but he voted for sulfurus, so the two cancel each other out. 4) Silentwarrior. Shit-tier read list, bandwagonning, lurking. Didn't vote Moosy N1, so neutral or bad scum imo. 5) NHM/Tictoc Awful posting but apparently had an excuse so mleh. Tictoc says he's followed the game, and showed that he was present in the thread, but has yet to give anything meaningful to the game, so he's on my naughty list until something comes up. Most lurkers commit, but he's already poked his head recently. 6) Moosy Shit town, prodding him to post better hopefully he actually does, otherwise lynch for derailing conversation. No more discussion on him because its also just derailing now. C'mon man shape up. 7) TJ Huggins Bandwagonned on Moosy, pointed a lot of fingers, but generally been pretty baseless. This isn't quite a 180 of what I said earlier, because I said in my post that he wasn't scum to me. That hasn't changed; I should have clarified that I didn't think he was that innocent either, he's high up on my neutral list. Just not enough yet to vote on him. 8) Grokken. Seems pretty sketchy to me. Need to chug through filter again, but voting on me even before Fidei did just feels like someone trying to stand out and be opportunistic. He didn't start the attack, so he doesn't assume culpability if I get lynched and I'm town. He also can't hold onto an accusation. That said, he didn't fight Sulfurus being lynched; he voted Moosy but didn't protest Sulfurus' death. That doesn't mean, however, that he's not my scum read. Because he is. 9) HtS Untouchable right now. No fun there :< 10) scottblahblahnumbers The WORST kind of lurker, if he was maf, I'd be willing to bet he'd be more active, especially since he's not on the noob list; who plays mafia multiple times without wanting to actually participate? For that reasoning he's really town to me, but damn I hate how he's basically not in the game. It's frustrating. | ||
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Scummer read is hardest on Grokken, Town for me definitively is HtS, Scott, and Fidei. Too many people posting too little (me included, before ~20 minutes ago). Need more activity please. | ||
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On July 14 2015 09:24 TJHuggins wrote: I am dealing with someone that is taking priority in real life right now so I do not have time to write out a big post. I will give the essential information that I can provide to town tomorrow. probably. By essential information is that a blue claim? Or just something your saying. Also in response to MD's most recent post, is there guarantee of an "experienced" mafia? I thought the roles were 100% randomized. | ||
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On July 14 2015 14:23 Tictock wrote: This is such a weird way to say you think HtS is town... As others have pointed out that whole reads post seems really off as well. A lot of your reads seem to move in one direction but you conclude the opposite. Nothing is well explained either. Like your Fidei read, hes voting for you and that makes him town? That makes little sense, if Ghandi is town then Fidei voting for him should make Ghandi worried that Fidei could be mafia not convince him he is town. Also that lie/mistake about TJ feels really wierd too, Fidei might very well be onto something there. I think it makes him town because, so far, the consensus was that I was neutral. There was a train starting on TJ, and pushing me there when there wasn't a large chance that a lot of people would follow seems like someone genuinely snooping for scum. Basically, to me he's either totally a townie or scumteam with TJ who was just looking for someone to re-orient the train onto. Honestly with that thinking, I think the most telling thing to do as to the alignment of Fidei would be to lynch TJ (scum makes Fidei more suspicious, town makes Fidei pretty clearly townie). I'm still not voting for TJ yet because Fidei is hardly the most pressing case when you look at some of the other people in the game right now, and I didn't think the bandwagon needed more momentum. | ||
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On July 14 2015 08:33 Grokken wrote: I think Fidei might be on to something, Ghandis post about MD is just rehashed arguments, he doesn't bring anything new to the table. He is also acting very defensively in the last few posts. He also said he didn't actually think MD is mafia, but still wants to policy-lynch him? I think we should try to lynch the mafia instead. ##vote GhandiEAGLE Acting defensively is something a lot of people would do when suddenly accused of being mafia; to me it's not really good proof unless the person is doing it an extreme amount, which I wasn't. Bringing something new to the table isn't something you did either in this post, so unless you're calling yourself scum, rehashing what other people have said isn't really a good reason to suspect (necessarily). Thirdly, I said that I didn't want to lynch Moosy until Day 3. The reason I voted for him was to get him talking more and getting him into the game. But disagreeing with your points isn't what's scummy to me. What's scummy is that you jumped on the first bandwagon that had nothing to do with supposedly likely scum, TJ. You issued a short, uninformative paragraph, and then immediately voted for me before even the original accuser, Fidei, did. To me this just seems like opportunistic play that would side yourself with a clear town, give you little to no culpability when I turn up town after a lynch, and still allow you to have a time in your filter where you seemed proactive in a town role, so as to be another defense later. That seems scummy to me. Additionally, you held a vote on Moosy. You said it was because you weren't present at the final vote, but I have no reason to believe this. A lot of other people can be held to this too, so you're not alone here; however, it doesn't help you. I'm more or less in the dark about who the scummers are, but as far as my reads go you're the scummiest. Also it's pretty safe to say attempting to get Moosy to participate didn't work out at all. Meh. ##Vote: Grokken | ||
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On July 15 2015 23:25 MoosyDoosy wrote: Eh, Ghandi isn't even defending himself. XD Not totally true. I've responded to the points against me that aren't valid. The issue is that the entire case against me is really that I'm a bad player in general, not that my play has been particularly scummy. That's just an appeal to my inexperience though, and generally isn't well-received as an argument. So I figured the best thing to do would be to go and carry on as though I wasn't a suspect and find an actual scummer; the town tunnel-visioning me is bad since I don't want them to lynch a townie. Unfortunately that attempt was also called a blatant attempt at "reaching" for a lynch. Additionally I can't vote for TJ Huggins until it's clear that it's what everyone has decided, otherwise it will be perceived as me trying to get on the horse and save my own skin, which would be perceived as a scummy play. So my attempts to help the town are mostly ignored, and my attempts t o defend myself will likely only worsen both my situation and the town's situation. That's why I'm largely keeping quiet, to stop town from constantly posting about me and start posting about scum. Unfortunately everyone is hitting TJ Huggins right now, which while not a bad lynch, should only be considered at the end of the day after we've investigated people that can actually defend themselves. I'm just saying, don't waste the entire day agreeing to lynch someone that's not present; only do it if you don't find somebody else first. | ||
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On July 16 2015 04:20 MoosyDoosy wrote: What I disliked about that post was how you did everything that you criticized Grokken for. Not so. My main criticism was that he voted for me as soon as he saw a good case was being made against me, and then decided that a short paragraph was enough to constitute that vote. If he started the argument I wouldn't really bother about it, and if he waited until Fidei himself had decided that I was guilty enough to vote, I wouldn't have noticed it either. What he did to me was see an opening and be proactive about it to protect himself and his filter. He looked like someone who was just waiting for someone to hop off of his Scumbuddy TJ's bandwagon. I've voted for you and Grokken, and at the time I voted those, nobody was talking about either of you. You in particular had been investigated before, but the argument had more or less been put to rest. | ||
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On July 16 2015 04:33 n00bKing wrote: @Ghandi: 1) If possible, please elaborate on what made you so confident in Scott being Town. 2) If possible, please explain why you said you weren't sold enough yet to vote against Moosy, and then voted against him (in the same post). 3) If possible, please explain what you dislike so much about my filter, which causes you to rank me as a neutral read, even though I posted the vote that buried Sulfurus. 1) What made me confident that Scott was town is because he was an experienced mafia player (supposedly; Onegu kind of ballsed up the list). To me, it would seem like an experienced mafia player would want to, in some capacity, play the game. If he were picked as scum, he'd almost definitely be more engaged, but if he got a role like Vanilla Town, I could understand him more or less AFKing out of disinterest. Honestly I can't see someone noticing that they're mafia and just deciding that they'd rather not post than actually try and win the game. Why sign up at all if you don't want to play? 2) That was just a failure to communicate. I meant to say that I didn't want to lynch Moosy, but I was ok with keeping a vote on him if it got him to talk and act like an actual member of the town. 3) Just vague vibes on the way you were posting. I didn't write a lot about it because there wasn't much of substance there, just gut. It's similar to the way you said On July 13 2015 07:53 n00bKing wrote:, I am also randomly townreading GhandiEAGLE for some reason or other. | ||
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