TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden

On June 21 2015 01:13 Alakaslam wrote:

Hijole

On June 30 2015 00:02 marvellosity wrote:

*semi retirement

On June 30 2015 00:28 marvellosity wrote:

it can always be much much harder. Especially when nurses outfits are involved.

On June 30 2015 04:52 marvellosity wrote:

na, you've pitched that right on my level :p

/in

someone who shall remain nameless guilted me into it

sorry dad x

On June 30 2015 06:00 WaveofShadow wrote:

I await PMs.

On June 30 2015 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Can I be part of that orgy too?

On July 06 2015 02:19 Damdred wrote:
Sounds good how much can I afk without getting lynched again?

On July 06 2015 03:39 Damdred wrote:


One day you will explain this meta read of yours

On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:

You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on...

On July 06 2015 07:56 KelsierSC wrote:


A thousand splendid suns

geript who is #1?

On July 06 2015 08:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Can't help but notice that your vote is on me geript.

On July 06 2015 08:06 WaveofShadow wrote:

What about you, honey bunny?

On July 06 2015 08:12 ruXxar wrote:
Top town at this point is damdred and Scott.

#BatTraps.

On July 06 2015 09:14 Holyflare wrote:


Player List
1) Marvellosity
2) Scott31337
3) WaveofShadow (filter)
4) Clarity_nl (filter)
5) ruXxar (filter) <--- pretty sure
12) Trfel (filter)
16) KelsierSC (filter)
20) Damdred (filter)
21) rsoultin (filter)
24) Holyflare (filter)

On July 06 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:


i don't care what you think about wave tbh so cool

On July 06 2015 09:30 ritoky wrote:


Over-emphasized defense at this point in the game.

In the event geript ever flips mafia, WoS is likely town cuz blatant attempted pocket/spew.

On July 06 2015 09:47 KelsierSC wrote:


what is the point in this, like who is town or scum as a result?

On July 06 2015 09:50 KelsierSC wrote:


but you said hf push on WoS didnt matter if wos was town or scum ?
so wtf is happening

On July 06 2015 12:41 ruXxar wrote:


Geript I wanna be a better player. What is the sure fire tell that oats is mafia?

On July 06 2015 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote:

just salty I called you mafia.

On July 07 2015 00:11 Oatsmaster wrote:

Do the words "investigator" mean anything to you?

On July 07 2015 00:31 marvellosity wrote:

you've not made any arguments

On July 07 2015 00:35 Oatsmaster wrote:

Look, just cause geript spouted some shit last game, doesnt mean he didnt slip this game.
Regardless, he is scum outside of that

On July 07 2015 00:36 marvellosity wrote:

i'll rephrase:

whatever you're doing is making me want to lynch oats less and less, whatever his alignment is.

On July 07 2015 01:59 marvellosity wrote:

funnily enough, the I was the strongest preference of the lot ^_^

On July 07 2015 02:41 Holyflare wrote:
yeh what a useless post again

On July 07 2015 03:40 Holyflare wrote:
well keep on being poop then geript, nobody is going to listen to a line of post that says 0 reasons on why someone is mafia

On July 07 2015 03:42 marvellosity wrote:

your attitude is pretty scummy because it looks like you're angling to be ignored while whining that you're being ignored.

On July 07 2015 08:10 Half the Sky wrote:


How do you differentiate (like a quote or something) his interest in being town versus his interest as either alignment? I think to his last two games, particularly the large normal Guardians and some people weren't having the greatest towny vibes there either and his vote d1 several cited as particularly suspect.

On July 07 2015 08:15 Trfel wrote:
Palmar generally plays the game more seriously as scum than as town.

On July 07 2015 08:11 geript wrote:
I'd also point out that very few people are in any way interested in lynching Oats. That very rarely happens when he's town.

On July 07 2015 08:58 rsoultin wrote:


better than rit or truffle

i still have like no read on him, though?

On July 07 2015 09:21 marvellosity wrote:

You're welcome :p

I'm docile as fuck though haha

On July 07 2015 10:35 Holyflare wrote:
also geript i don't know about the meta so i can't really comment on it's accuracy so it's kind of a giant wall of text right now, trfel's new post is like wtf since he scum reads ls for something his town read and I have said is town indicative from LS and if he was reading the thread there's no way he misses that

On July 07 2015 14:26 rsoultin wrote:
oh i see why you're voting geript, oats...reminds me of bats lol >< it's just as flawed as that was, though

On July 07 2015 14:21 rsoultin wrote:


that at least i've seen a lot

although in all honesty i think i've seen him call people mafia without a reason, or is this specific to just voting?

On July 07 2015 14:39 Oatsmaster wrote:

Oh sorry, you need a reason why your play is scummy?
How about doing nothing but continously call someone mafia but not actually trying to convince people I'm mafia.

Doing nothing but this the whole day.

Yeah, you can die.

Kelsier wrote:
i don't remember

you dont like hf

but uou like ,marv?

???

Scott wrote:
No, you misunderstood here. Marv usually does a bit more as town then his one post - he's probably waiting for his buddy Palmar - they love to interact - I'm not caring for Marv. HF has a slight townlean for now, I liked his first post (although it could have been pre-made, I had a mindmeld with it)

On July 07 2015 16:54 Vivax wrote:


This is what you say in your odd confidence, not what he said. You also leave out the part from the second post where he said he didn't care about marv previously but the first post is formulated as if.

On July 08 2015 00:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf's giant list of people he has no idea about really bothers me.
Same thing when geript does it.

On July 08 2015 00:06 ruXxar wrote:


Talk to me about vivax geript, I don't get a good vibe from this guy at all.

On July 08 2015 00:16 marvellosity wrote:

his was one of the filters i looked at earlier and came away thinking that i didn't really know either way, let me go refresh myself

On July 07 2015 07:09 geript wrote:
Scott31337
Clarity_nl
Vivax
Bill Murray
ritoky
Meapak_Ziphh
Trfel
LightningStrike
ObiWanShinobi
milo109
Oatsmaster
Damdred
rsoultin
XEliteBlueHunter69X

People not currently in my town circle

On July 08 2015 00:24 marvellosity wrote:
does anyone think ritoky is town outside his claim?

or at least, i should rephrase, are there posts that might make you think he could be?

On July 08 2015 00:38 marvellosity wrote:

are you telling me this isn't the epitome of his towngame also?

On June 19 2015 05:29 Blazinghand wrote:

DMLE Investigator (Vanilla Townie): You’ve been working in Precinct 16 for a long time. You’ve seen a lot of messed up things in your day. When the going gets tough, you don’t stop. Every case takes a little bit out of you, but someone has to do this work. You are a VT.

Investigator Extraordinaire (Vigilante): You keep on thinking back to your idol, Rita Skeeter. You want to be just like her. You’re not gonna let things like an “ongoing investigation” or “hostage situation” stop you from writing your character assassination pieces. You’re a journalist; you and your quick-quotes quill doesn’t afraid of anyone. At night, you can fire a bullet to deal 1 kp to a target. You can't shoot during night 1.

On July 08 2015 02:07 Oatsmaster wrote:

So why didnt you say something referring investigator to vt?

On July 08 2015 02:16 Oatsmaster wrote:

SO WHY DID GERIPT RESPOND SO WEIRDLY.

On July 08 2015 02:21 Oatsmaster wrote:

Again, why did you respond like I was talking about investigator cop rather than investigator VT?

On July 08 2015 02:26 Oatsmaster wrote:

I slip as mafia means anyone can slip as mafia.

On July 08 2015 02:34 Holyflare wrote:




hehe

anyway, milo or HtS are the lynches today, you can take your pick! If you're too lazy to read HtS then that's fine as long as you just admit that

On July 08 2015 05:09 Holyflare wrote:


I like his listsssss


Let's lynch rsoul!

On July 08 2015 05:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
It can be argued that BM would sit back and do as little as possible as mafia, but I'm fairly certain we beat that idea to death earlier on.

I'd lynch him over the claimed cops at this point.

On July 08 2015 05:37 marvellosity wrote:
we could just lynch MZ

On July 08 2015 05:38 Holyflare wrote:
ok while we are afk voting mz can someone please actually fucking converse with me about rsoultin and not give shitty reads that just say "no", nothing even answered anything I asked for

On July 08 2015 06:04 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so can someoen give me a run down why MZ is scum? This wagon seemed to formed to fast honestly.

On July 08 2015 06:31 Harkon wrote:

He is going on about the exact wording of the cop role pm.1-shot vs. one-shot, dumbledore vs. cop.

On July 08 2015 06:33 marvellosity wrote:
"we could lynch BM"

said someone from the crowd, helpfully

On July 08 2015 06:40 Half the Sky wrote:
geript, you said you didn't like Damdred. I went through his filter. I know a couple of people cited him for his pushes.

What is making you think he's not town? Is it his method of scumhunting? Is it his pushes on his targets (LS/Trfel/Wave, etc) or was it him dropping the LS read?

You didn't like his wave read, and Damdred is saying that wos doesn't seem to care about the game.

Are you lot thinking he's zeroing in on a pattern of "easy" lynches? I know we know the deal on LS (before he dropped it) and Trfel wasn't playing optimally regardless of what people think on him, and wos has been highly critical of his own town game. It's possible as a theory.

But I don't understand the part in your filter about "that's not whom Damdred should be choosing" as a lynch though when he goes on wave. KSC I know you found this read weird too. I'm reading the filter and I don't know if I'm missing something.

On July 08 2015 06:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Right but my question is if there are enough people on line which there seems to be then why don't we go for someone like trfl, milo, or even vivax who is looking worse the more I read?

On July 08 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:


and you can't count?

-_- wanderer means probably tracker means tracker and two cops? does that make sense?

On July 08 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:


she seems okay? she was literally the only person understanding what i was trying to say, anyway lol >< about both trfel and hf. it's been awhile since i've played with her since i wasn't scum, though xP

why?

On July 08 2015 07:19 Vivax wrote:


I'm not lynching into claimers cause I don't have the brain of pteropods, don't put into my mouth that I was 100 % sure the claim was real.

On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

Geript do you still feel this way?

On July 08 2015 11:30 milo109 wrote:
It had to be people who led the train on BM. And I hated most of them already.

On July 08 2015 12:06 milo109 wrote:


1. I looked through the voting thread and compared it with my notes.
2. Cause they all played scummy.

I didn't start the fire.

On July 09 2015 08:16 Damdred wrote:
I have no clue

On July 09 2015 08:34 Harkon wrote:
Why would they ever rolecop a claimed role? Makes no sense.
Why would town damdred EVER do this? Makes no sense.

He is mafia.

On July 09 2015 12:15 Damdred wrote:
I'm not arguing against lynching me honestly.

On July 09 2015 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:

So you think its reasonable to assume that on n1, the town JK goes for an offensive JK on literally the worst target to carry kp. And to save someone that obviously isnt dying because he doesnt look town at all?

I dont buy damdred's reasoning at all.

On July 09 2015 18:40 marvellosity wrote:

he seems a good lynch just because jking ritoky is so silly.

i read everything last night when i was really baked up to p185 i think, but couldn't wrap my head around it.

the problem is i don't have any sort of read on Damdred beyond this stuff so i'd just have to be sure that him visting ritoky meant he was mafia.

i liked clarity's case on milo too, which i guess makes it more likely damdred is mafia.

On July 10 2015 02:56 marvellosity wrote:

i'm here

On July 10 2015 03:08 marvellosity wrote:

no

but i will listen when you explain them in a clear/concise manner, like i already did this game when you stopped pricking around

On July 07 2015 07:09 geript wrote:
Scott31337
Clarity_nl
Vivax
Bill Murray
ritoky
Meapak_Ziphh
Trfel
LightningStrike
ObiWanShinobi
milo109
Oatsmaster
Damdred
rsoultin
XEliteBlueHunter69X

People not currently in my town circle

On July 10 2015 04:11 Clarity_nl wrote:


That's like really surprising to me. WoS doesn't even seem interested in the game at all, how on earth could you feel so strongly one way or the other about his lynch? :s I hope you find a way to explain before the end of n2.

On July 10 2015 04:18 marvellosity wrote:

i love your digs, they're hilarious

i'm one of the least tunnelly players on TL Mafia, and i am literally always entertaining the idea i'm wrong.

Ask anyone.

On July 10 2015 06:33 marvellosity wrote:

No.

On July 10 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote:
Milo is the most obvious scum,in the thread back me up here geript

On July 10 2015 06:38 LightningStrike wrote:
Geript are you Mason with Damdred? He claimed you are Mason with him is that true or false?

On July 10 2015 06:50 Clarity_nl wrote:
I'm a little pissed that geript didn't just go "I'm not mason with damdred, kill it with fire". Was that really so hard?

On July 10 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote:
It's sad that Geript lost his reasoning. It's ok when I flip just look into Kel. Rs, milo

On July 11 2015 05:20 marvellosity wrote:
i'm hoping a vigi shoots MZ in the face.

On July 06 2015 09:17 geript wrote:

I'm not sure if you're right on Damdred. I'm sure you're wrong on wave. I agree about Ruxx. The big thing though is that you're wrong on Wave. He's town.

On July 07 2015 04:14 geript wrote:

Nah, it's just that have no intentions of helping you guys and will ignore everyone and anyone who chooses to ignore my reads. It's a 2 way street marv. You know I tend to have very good reads early on and very strong well developed meta reads later on. Especially my townread early on are usually quite on point; exceptionally fantastically on point. It's one of the reasons why I've made a note that I still don't have a townread on Damdred. That should at least alert you to there being a problem there.

On July 07 2015 14:42 geript wrote:
Not Voting (13): Scott31337, WaveofShadow, ritoky, Meapak_Ziphh, Trfel, LightningStrike, KelsierSC, milo109, Oatsmaster, Damdred, XEliteBlueHunter69X, Harkon, Clarity_nl

FWIW, there's probably a good amount of mafia in this group right here. Interesting how similar it is to my "not town reads" list.

On July 08 2015 00:15 geript wrote:
Oh. And I still don't have a townread on Damdred. So I could definitely lynch him.

On July 08 2015 00:53 geript wrote:
The more a Damdred posts, the more I yearn to lynch him. I'm really surprised by his desire to lynch Wave. Not because I have a townread on wave but more because he's definitely not the target Damdred would usually choose here. I don't recognize any of Damdred's thought process at all this game and as town I've been able to spot his quite early. Like I know you guys don't buy my magical reads. But they work. And Damdred isn't town.

On July 08 2015 03:01 geript wrote:
~4 hours. I'll consolidate on Ritoky, but meh. I'd really rather lynch Oats or Vivax or Damdred or idk lots of other people. But meh. I'm pretty blah about who to lynch right now and I feel like being lazy for a bit.

On July 08 2015 05:11 geript wrote:
Clarity_nl
Vivax
Bill Murray
Meapak_Ziphh
Trfel
ObiWanShinobi
Damdred
rsoultin
XEliteBlueHunter69X

I still think I'd rather lynch Damdred or Bill Murray. Damdred doesn't seem to be thinking anything like how he thinks as town and BM is a great fall back if we don't want to lynch into claims. Of the claims, I think Ritoky's the better lynch.

On July 08 2015 05:18 geript wrote:
Basically here's the wagon options. If you're not on one of these, then you're not helping/mafia:
1. Ritoky--Of the claims, he's my preferred lynch. Plus he'll do anything as any alignment re: claiming. But I think he might be town from a few posts he's made
2. Damdred--Not playing his town game whatsoever. Maybe he's busy. Maybe he's trying new things. Maybe his wife's pregnant. Maybe his wife got shot again. IDK. But he's really off imo.
3. Rsoultina--I don't have a great read on her. HF thinks she's scum. I don't have a reason to townread her.
4. Bill Murray--A good D1 lynch if we can't find something better. He's been exceptionally useless and usually he says at least 1 interesting thing as town.

On July 08 2015 06:44 geript wrote:

So basically usually Damdred has a Damdred thought. Basically as town, he has this thought process that I can recognize. Like last game he made 1post while I was like," yep that's exactly what Damdred would push/think." And it's not there at all this game.

On July 07 2015 07:56 geript wrote:
I'd be really surprised if I were wrong about Breshke. He was interacting with the thread instead of around the thread.

On January 26 2015 17:02 geript wrote:
I've spent the last few hours looking at Breshke's meta. I really don't see him being mafia. Like there are some similarities to both his town and mafia play, but it looks far more like his town game. How he interacts with the thread and reads seems to be the key to understanding his meta imo. Like his mafia games are practically commentary/summary of the thread and I'm not really seeing that here.

I don't think I want to lynch Breshke.

On July 11 2015 11:36 marvellosity wrote:
btw, geript when you read this, i'm gonna get you to explain your Damdred stuff to me post-game. Even if you think you can't :p

On July 07 2015 03:50 Damdred wrote:
Hey guys I got distracted while I was finishing things up at the house cleaning days are a bitch.

ok I'll try to answer everything of I miss some things just quote them and I'll get them, or if you have a person you specifically want me to talk about I'll try to get to it.

Firstly a list of people I am town reading currently:
Ruxxor: last game we played together one of the things or a few things I caught him on was weird interactions with people suspecting them and then forgetting what he's typed. He seems to be a little more consistent with what he's said even if he is putting things a bit odd. Also tone wise he is way different, he seems a bit more relaxed and happier here while my experience with him as scum has been super angry sounding. Content wise he also makes a bit of sense with what he's posting so far.

Marv: Mostly its a tone thing plus he seems really involved in everything going on. I like and understand how he's looking at the game.

Kel: Has really put the work into the game so far that I would expect from a town kel, he has dug through posts in here and has kept brining things back up that he doesn't agree with and he keeps re evaluating as the game goes. Ie when I told him to checkour last game he did and changed a bit of what he said.

Hf: I'm scared of him bit he seems a lot more involved early and seems to be pushing things from a good angle to me. He doesn't sound really stinky to me atm so I'm ok with him being town here.

Hts is someone who I like at this point but don't have a firm handle on right now. For example I can understand the thought processes she uses in giving the reads and when others don't understand you can see a struggle to get people to understand it. Sticks to the guns but seems to really want to work with people to get them to understand the perspective. I think has a good shot at town

palmar is a Toney thing and I like him but I always do.

If anyone has any more specific questions about people not on my list ask.

@kel currently in struggling with my rsoultin read. I'm of two minds whenever her and hf fight one of them is generally scum as they usually get along pretty well. But on the other hand she's so obstinante and doesn't care what people think shed just going to say whatever the hell she wants, that's a town trait to me of hers to. Overall I'm still thinking town but a couple of misgivings about her.

On July 11 2015 12:51 Holyflare wrote:
I mentioned on day 1 how weird this town read post was from damdred since he didn't sound sure about those reads at all yet still called them all town and I think i like arbitrarily deciding everyone on this list that's explained is town simply because it looks like he struggled to point out everything obvious that didn't make people towny but did in his mafia world.

#sickreads

On July 11 2015 13:09 Holyflare wrote:


This is a bit wifom but since damdred was only tracked to ritoky, barring any jk or anything that has a save on ritoky it probably means someone not talked about as being scummy carried the kp. Not sure what that means yet but i just saw it in the op.

On July 11 2015 13:38 milo109 wrote:
geript you should totally track me bby.

On July 11 2015 13:40 milo109 wrote:
You could confirm me, which is probably be better than tracking a random.

On July 11 2015 13:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meh, there really isnt any value for mafia to claim vet there.
They have no idea if there is a vet in the game, and vet is literally the easiest thing is the world to cc. There is no risk for the vet that he gets shot and loses his role.

On July 12 2015 00:26 marvellosity wrote:

not a chance

On July 12 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:

eh i dunno. that post she explained to me why she didn't like damdred...

On July 07 2015 07:09 geript wrote:
Scott31337
Clarity_nl
Vivax
Bill Murray
ritoky
Meapak_Ziphh
Trfel
LightningStrike
ObiWanShinobi
milo109
Oatsmaster
Damdred
rsoultin
XEliteBlueHunter69X

People not currently in my town circle

On July 23 2015 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Lol I Was 2/3 right on the scum team after the mod kill honestly I guess Geript can't tone read WoS anymore lol.