TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden

On July 05 2015 23:39 Damdred wrote:
I'll be finishing up a shift Sooo will do my best.

Rsoultin is town, Ritoky is scum

On July 06 2015 02:19 Damdred wrote:
Sounds good how much can I afk without getting lynched again?

On July 06 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote:


lol it mostly means if you're town you're pretty gullible, but sure

On July 06 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
If you dislike playing mafia with anyone play voice mafia with them you 100% love those people later.

Ls what do you make of Scott asking rs for her read on you so early? Any experiences with him?

On July 06 2015 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Clarity if you haven't played with hf much who is arguably the best scum player on site. Why do you 100% lack any fear in reading him on precious few posts?

On July 06 2015 08:33 Holyflare wrote:
considering you did 0 things, waves post is 0% correct and likely mafia wave

On May 10 2015 11:29 Damdred wrote:


To expand a good bit,

RS posts are decently good and even though the idea of HTS being mafia running in multiple posts, most of the posts however are well thought out and even the post where RS was being a pita towards the thread up above it still conveyed good ideas in a good manner.

However there is something really off in my reads.

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On July 06 2015 08:38 Damdred wrote:


It's a bit of a gut/tone read I have going on her. Her little spat with clarity she was a bit of a pita and her not hostility but uhhh exaggeration makes me feel it's town rd, plus the follow up makes me feel it

On July 06 2015 09:22 Damdred wrote:
On one level I really like the explanation even though it's super obvious.

On another though, you had to wait on hf to point it out and instantly sheeped it instead of taking it yourself. So it just feels weird

On July 06 2015 10:48 KelsierSC wrote:


if i say WoS is mafia

whay say you

On July 06 2015 10:57 Damdred wrote:
I'm back.

Kel I don't get it, you really like my points on ls which I feel is really strong and getting stronger by the second.

But instead you judge me based on the structure of a town read and don't even mention the ls read that you liked? That's kind of strange

On July 06 2015 11:04 Damdred wrote:


I'm not sure I follow 100%.
example if you don't like a town read that's ok, but you like another read is developed with support you want to discard because you don't like him anyway? So you don't like me.

that doesn't make sense and you are discarding part of my game play for no real reason it feels uneven and unnecessary coming from you

On July 06 2015 11:16 KelsierSC wrote:


well..it is like this. scott apparently has few games played and LS did explain the read of like "oh you get him later"
LS is...well like you never know wtf is happening. so i think a few pages its hard to say well fuck yeh he is lazy...it just doesnt feel good...fuck i cant explain that properly
so i feel like your LS scum is dishonest and your rsoul is town feels like a cheap rsoul is town comparitively

On July 06 2015 11:22 Damdred wrote:
Yeah see now you just sound fake.

for instance Scott has what 8 games played maybe? I haven't counted exactly how many but its a good sample size and all of then are recentish.

Now in previous games ls when asked even early on would break out ten tons of meta in the first few pages and come to a conclusion. Whatever game we just played ls did this and I was able to meta him as town in the first few pages and you gave me hell about it until I explained my meta read on him being town which was 100% right.

now in that game he metad shockey and went through all his games that were years old to try to get some form of read, he failed to come to a super solid conclussioj but the effort was there with little to go ok and he did the work.

Here like I mentioned earlier he had already hinted he was leaning scum on Scott. When confronted with this he 100% shifted all the work to the thread and said here's the games I'll wait to do this till later when that's the opposite of what he normally would do and soon as the thread turned its attention away from ls he dissapeared and fave nothing more.

And I'm not sure if you are scum or just bad for acting this way and throwing dirt on me.

On July 06 2015 09:21 geript wrote:

You better start caring because you're not going to lynch him because I don't get to play with him often and we're both town. So find a different lynch to push.

On July 07 2015 03:17 Half the Sky wrote:


What phrase/words struck you as "bait" (or loaded, etc)? I remember reading his questioning and he's been on about LS I think for most of his time in game?

On July 07 2015 06:29 Damdred wrote:
Ehhhhh.

I'm kinda torn on the claim honestly, like if you look at one of the titanic games where rit was a medic he did an excellent job not claiming until super late in the game. And he generally doesn't claim much and hates claiming from my experience with him, the only game I can think of when hes claimed super early was when he was the mass healing doctor in that theme'd game.

I could see town rit doing it, scum rit likes to take things serious and contribute least amount as possible and see how he can skate by on things. So I could see it coming from either alignment.

I don't think I would lynch him today and risk it though.

On July 07 2015 06:04 Harkon wrote:


Also damdred is/was (?) scumreading him and he apparently has some sort of soulread on ritoky.

On July 07 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
HF dont' ignore me please, I went from a decent strong town read to now not in town circle. answer plox things I asked

On July 07 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
HF dont' ignore me please, I went from a decent strong town read to now not in town circle. answer plox things I asked

On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then?

On July 07 2015 01:46 Holyflare wrote:
LS, i'm holding you to a high standard this game. You need to make it up to everyone after last game anyway apparently. SO, tell me all of your reads and why you think them and how things are going down.

On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote:
I don't disagree with lynching LS.

However

On July 07 2015 08:35 Damdred wrote:


Actually LS do you have any scum reads at this point?

On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:


Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his?

On July 07 2015 23:49 Damdred wrote:
I've talked about my town reads previously I don't have a ton of strong town reads, i'd rather comments be made about my case and discussing that at present.

On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.

I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.

The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.

The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.

The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.

TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.

This guy is scum vot ehim.

On July 08 2015 00:35 Damdred wrote:
Honestly we should stop scatter gunning the conversation and focus on a couple of people to decide t o lynch, majority sucks honestly but we have to work within it.

On July 08 2015 00:33 Damdred wrote:


I don't think the point is invalid about the unvote imo or invalidates the point I tried to make. Thread sentiment went against wave to an extent hf pushed it, clary jumped on. Opportunity to jump off clar jumps off, i think misrepresenting my case into one point is dumb, like you don't even interact with the other points of it just that its scummy because marv was wrong about one of the points i talked about.

On July 08 2015 00:43 Damdred wrote:


I honestly thought you were smarter than this Kel, openings aren't alignment indicative. But going "HEY GUYS THIS GUY IS TOWN I"LL NEVER LYNCH HIM FOR HIS OPENING" is not the same thing.

Like idk i don't think that you are dumb, but that point is like idiotic.

When the game develops into a super game size like it is now that's an acceptable excuse its not when its a 3-5 page game and its like 1-2 posts above yours and you just go about your day.

I think wave is scum because of lack of cares but meh.

I've answered about ls

On July 08 2015 06:57 Holyflare wrote:


scott

scott plzzz

why be so mafia

why

On July 09 2015 06:06 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright this mz/milo/ritoky thing has been beaten to death.

Anyone that wants to chime in feel free to give me your opinion on

kelsier/breshke/obi

On July 09 2015 07:33 Harkon wrote:

I do, but you think scum leaves 2 claimed cops alive? Come on. Even if the way both claims happened wasn't suspicious in itself that would be quite unbelievable.

On July 09 2015 08:30 Damdred wrote:
Jk can be offensive and defensive shrug, I really could care more but I won't fuck town over completely by leaving no reads

On July 09 2015 23:36 Damdred wrote:
Hi Marv, I intact do love you. However I took a chance of not jk you because I was going into the wifom of scum would think you were being protected.

Gut reaction ls is making up reasons or over explaining his vote on saying a lot of it is due to my weirdness early fay one. However if you check his filter you will see that he town read me for my early d1 things. I'm pretty sure he's scum here still.

Rsoultin is probably scum as well for what I said earlier.

Milo is probably the third. Two more will be found

On July 10 2015 06:35 Damdred wrote:
Milo is the most obvious scum,in the thread back me up here geript