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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:35 GMT
#3097
wait wjoch one is that
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:39 GMT
#3099
On July 08 2015 09:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On July 08 2015 09:23 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:18 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:33 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 07 2015 16:42 geript wrote:
I want to be clear. I think Vivax is a pretty terrible player. But this level of incompetence is really pretty stunning. Any vigi who doesn't shoot him is not clearly thinking through their shot.

Geript do you still feel this way?


you hav 1 minute to tell me why this q s relevant

This question?

Because I came across Geript's statement as I was reading and wanted to see if he still felt that way since I myself have been struggling with Vivax's alignment (spoiler: I now think he's scum).


alrightt why?

Why what?
Why did I want to see if Geript still thought that?
Why was I struggling with Vivax's alignment
Why do I now think he's scum?

If you're gonna try and question someone at least make the questions direct and with a purpose.


the 4th one

I think geript is town and trfel is scum. Vivax chainsaws trfl by attacking geript but then when the heat is off of trfl vivax decides now it's ok for trfl to die in one single cop out post.

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On July 07 2015 03:03 Vivax wrote:
All this shit about Trfel is so distracting. All that's being discussed is Trfel and HF claimed the spotlight for himself.

Can we talk about geript? Or Damdred. I actually didn't like the way Damdred tried to bait LS into saying something damning earlier and then turned it into a scumread. It's not bad per se as it's a legit town strategy but my feels tingled with malicious intentions given that I don't get a scummy feeling from LS.


chainsaw

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On July 08 2015 03:07 Vivax wrote:
I decided that Trfel can die too, so if HF wants a lynch on him he can have my vote.

I saw no elaboration on his scott scumread and the talk about LS looks like he just needed that read to have something to talk about. His HF suspicion fell into the water as well.

Instead what we get are a bunch of apologetic posts and empty promises.


about face

Honestl vivax just can't keep his story straight, I could right a longer analysis but I have a bigger fish to fry that I'll spend y time on but I'll leave you with this:

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On July 08 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote:
This game is insane, at the start of the day with plenty of room to do things, some people go nuts about Trfel. When at the end of the day it turns out he didn't deliver jack for real, they start lynching into cop claims.


If you remember, vivax himself was one of those people going nuts about trfl but now he's trying to set himself up for an "I told you so" moment after trfl doesn't deliver.


hmm this isn't awful
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:41 GMT
#3100
have you played with vivarino before?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:43 GMT
#3103
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
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On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:49 GMT
#3105
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.


do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS

sorry to keep distracing you
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:56 GMT
#3107
On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.


do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS

sorry to keep distracing you

I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.

idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.


you know what, imma let you finish

i would say dont rush your reads out, just chill
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 00:59 GMT
#3111
On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote:
@rsoultin.

HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game.
Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information.
Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.

The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit.
The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel.
When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.

Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself?
Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment?
Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on.
Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.

Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction?

go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims

i've answered all your leading questions already

i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me

i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information?

lol ><


I read your interaction just fine.
Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something.

1st interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia"
RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure"
HF: "I don't need your opinion RS"
RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!".
HF: "I don't need you go away".
Mod: Interrupts.

2nd interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner"
RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel"
HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning)
RS: "You were trying to shit on me!"
HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information"
RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else"
(topic changed)

3rd interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why".
RS: "HF, you can't read!"
RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!"
HF: "How is that not reading?"
RS: "Trfel already explained it!"
HF: "Explained it how?"
RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?"
HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?"
RS: "You are stupid HF!"
(Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed)

It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view.
Once again you're derailing.

I'm not going away anytime soon.


just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^

why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts


rsoul..do you stick by your LS read?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 01:08 GMT
#3113
On July 08 2015 10:07 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 09:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:57 rsoultin wrote:
On July 08 2015 08:50 ruXxar wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:52 rsoultin wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:44 ruXxar wrote:
@rsoultin.

HF, was putting pressure on trfel. And well founded pressure too with the way trfel has been playing this game.
Putting pressure on people is a good thing, it's an excellent tool for extracting information.
Yet you seem to have a problem with people putting pressure on trfel, and you guard him like a watch dog.

The issue is not that you came with your opinion on trfel, that is completely fine and legit.
The problem is that you acted irrationally and actively tried to disrupt and deny us information out of Trfel.
When someone observes a contradiction or inconsistency in what people say and they question them about it, the most anti-town thing you can do is try to interject and derail the questioning, which is exactly what you did.

Tell me this, why are you defending Trfel when he is perfectly capable of defending himself?
Furthermore, he might be mafia, so why are you so adamant about defending someone without knowing their alignment?
Your goal as town should be to get as much information out of anyone as to form a basis of judgement on.
Blindly defending people as town is an incredibly bad way to play.

Combined with your other actions this game, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.


do you even begin to realize how difficult it is for me to even bother finish reading this pile of shit when it's clear you didn't bother to actually READ our interaction?

go away, or actually fact check your own fucking claims

i've answered all your leading questions already

i've formed my judgment on truffle and until i actually see anything to indicate otherwise, you can bite me

i was right on gb. i was right on damdy. i was right on bugs. i was right on hf. i was right on you. and i was right on wave and oats. but instead of CONSIDERING after seeing my play last game and losing the game while ignoring my advice in your newbie, that i might actually have a good fucking toneread on truffle you try to paint it as me denying information?

lol ><


I read your interaction just fine.
Let me recap my view of it, just so you can correct me if I'm missing something.

1st interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "Trfel you are playing like burnt out mafia"
RS: "I don't think he is, but I'll find out soon for sure"
HF: "I don't need your opinion RS"
RS: "Trfel is town, your reads are wrong!".
HF: "I don't need you go away".
Mod: Interrupts.

2nd interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "I wanted to force Trfel to present his argument in a logical manner"
RS: "HF is misrepresenting me and being a dick, I don't mind if you question Trfel"
HF: (Posts quotes where you disrupted him from questioning)
RS: "You were trying to shit on me!"
HF: "I don't deny being a dick, but I was trying to pressure trfel to gain information"
RS: "Stop questioning him so early! Let's talk about something else"
(topic changed)

3rd interaction: Starts here
Recap:
HF: "Trfel there's an inconsistency in your read on LS, explain why".
RS: "HF, you can't read!"
RS: "I want to let trfel answer for himself, but you guys are too stupid!"
HF: "How is that not reading?"
RS: "Trfel already explained it!"
HF: "Explained it how?"
RS: "HTS saw the questioning, why don't you get it?"
HF: "How does that explain him changing his stance?"
RS: "You are stupid HF!"
(Shitfight ensues, questioning derailed)

It's all pretty obvious disruption from my point of view.
Once again you're derailing.

I'm not going away anytime soon.


just because you paraphrase it this way doesn't make it correct ^^

why don't you talk to me about your other reads instead of trying to convince me i'm scum? you're clearly not attempting to determine my alignment at all with the bias-laden wording in your posts


rsoul..do you stick by your LS read?


nh? you mean the trash-tier townlean based on word choice? lol >< i think it's objectively just as strong now as it was then, for what it's worth

]
i do

i aint mad

but what you think of him now?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 01:18 GMT
#3120
On July 08 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote:
Can people give me their opinions about scott please. There is something giving me pause I want to see if others get it.


dude i tried his witht milo and people muj called me stupid
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 01:30 GMT
#3124
my triangle is coming good.

i think damdred is mafia

i like the dude we didnt lynch
maeperleaf
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 01:38 GMT
#3126
nreshke spell it for me
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 02:02 GMT
#3127
awai
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 02:23 GMT
#3130
On July 08 2015 11:15 Breshke wrote:
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On July 08 2015 10:17 rsoultin wrote:
On July 08 2015 10:15 Breshke wrote:
Can people give me their opinions about scott please. There is something giving me pause I want to see if others get it.


pretty sure i saw it, too


Nah i don't think what you saw is what i saw because what i saw is dumb.

SO what gives me pause about scott is from the following two posts.

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 07 2015 03:40 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 06 2015 17:28 Trfel wrote:
Pointless Conversation

+ Show Spoiler +
On July 06 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 06 2015 07:20 Trfel wrote:
Hi.

I need to go take a sauna now. Raynpelikoneet would approve, I assume

I'll probably be mostly active in the evenings, lately I've been busier during the day. So if you scumread me for lack of activity or lack of active discussion, you'll be wrong.

Anyway, this should be a fun (if spammy) game. And an easy win. Scum, you don't have a chance.





but, but, but...

this was our favorite!

;o; judas
Yes, but you see the song I linked has a (terrible) connection to the point I am attempting to convey. "Sports Song" is my favorite from Weird Al's recent songs, anyway.



On July 06 2015 07:31 scott31337 wrote:
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On July 06 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
##vote trfel

Super over explained afk entry excuse post

You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on...

Scum #2 I've caught.


Must be a lot of mafia in this game when you catch them while less than half the game didn't even post.


There's five, did you read the OP or just being Vivax?
Do you normally miss jokes?



On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup!


Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic?


it's cool

i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy
Do not! Only that one time....

If you must know, I wrote my entrance post for this game after the Day post....



On July 06 2015 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup!


Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic?


it's cool

i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy

I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game.
Thanks for the confidence WaveofShadow, but she most definitely can read me...



On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote:
Clarity do you have any other reads so far?



I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that.

trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times

Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet


do you have anymore town?



Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads.


ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent.

what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum?


I said we can't both be scum

Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful.


-squints at-

lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right?



You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little.

I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree?
I don't even....



On July 06 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
chem work to do...
Well now I'm feeling pretty stupid...



On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.
This is really stupid, but I think this post actually gets him a town lean...








On July 06 2015 12:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 12:29 milo109 wrote:
Alright you people are boring. I'll be back in the morning.

When you wake up care to give me your thoughts?
Has LightningStrike ever used phrasing like this before?



At the moment, I'm most suspicious of (in no order) scott31337, LightningStrike, and Holyflare.

I'm suspicious of LightningStrike partially because of what Damdred said. While Damdred's point wasn't great, LightningStrike's response (looking up the games that were missing from his initial post) seems very telling.

Furthermore, I don't think that LightningStrike has ever used the phrasing in the above quote as town. Usually, he says "please give me your reads" or "what are your reads, please" or something like that. In contrast, "care to give me your thoughts" is far more reserved. And the rest of LightningStrike's posting in this game is far more aggressive than I'm used to seeing from him.

It feels like the strongest argument against LightningStrike is how his play has been affected by the pressure he's been under. As people bring up different things, he posts in different ways as a result.

Side note, why are girls so confusing.... (and no, I'm not talking about anyone in this game)



This looks really familiar - throw out some suspicions, and then work on your agenda.

I don't like this post at all.

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On July 06 2015 20:16 boxerfred wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hype! And already information.


Holyflare claiming VT is interesting. Doesn't seem something scum would do or think of this quickly after PMs went out/daypost went up.


Not lynching him today.

strange entry post, why would you believe a first-post-of-the-day-VT-claim?


Did you read how he came to that conclusion? It made a lot of sense to me - mindmeldy...

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On July 06 2015 20:54 boxerfred wrote:
You have been following the VT claim blindly, which is sheeping.


I like HF for more then the VT claim - also his interaction with rsoul.

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On July 06 2015 21:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485712-carnaval-do-brasil-mafia?user=rsoultin&page=5
Shit load of xP, shes mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482487-hajime-no-ippo-maifa?user=rsoultin&page=9
way less xP, shes town.

Clearly this is definitive proof that rsoul is mafia.

Marv, you arent gonna look at the voting thread unless you vote.
Its completely pointless to vote there unless you need to do it to not get modkilled and to actually make your vote count.

I assume boxer doesnt exactly know what sheeping is.


Good case - could sheep...

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On July 06 2015 22:57 boxerfred wrote:
Okay i hardclaim cop


This was posted while marv/ksc/hard were on rsoul, and I'm pretty confident it was to throw off discussion.

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On July 06 2015 23:36 boxerfred wrote:
Yep sorry, just contributing from mobile in the Bus, throwing out ideas.
Yeah and im no cop.


I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way...

I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love.
1) Marvellosity  townie after the morning
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town
5) ruXxar  slight town
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim
8) ritoky  slight town
9) geript  slight town
10) boxerfred  null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul.
11) Meapak_Ziphh 
12) Trfel  Crap start but can be a big poster too
13) LightningStrike  Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave
18) Breshke  Ehh
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost
23) Harkon  Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - town
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X 

I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread.


On July 08 2015 03:54 scott31337 wrote:
So about Milo -

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On July 08 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote:
On July 07 2015 23:30 Harkon wrote:
This post is definitely a pretty bold statement especially since it isn't paired with any reason as to why.
On July 07 2015 11:37 milo109 wrote:
Meh. I think LS is a better lynch. Your case is unconvincing.


i thought the same about that comment


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On July 07 2015 10:46 scott31337 wrote:
On July 07 2015 10:40 milo109 wrote:
Alright... Explanations for my reads. First of all, I've played one game. That game I happened to be scum and won. Perhaps my opening strategy is not indicative of alignment, as you have nothing to compare it to. I've not had as much time to devote to the game as I would like, so I threw out my gut reads. The game is hard when you're town. Almost everything is justifiable in one way or the other, which makes it hard to find certainty.

On July 06 2015 11:07 milo109 wrote:
I'm mildly certain Kelsier is scum.


I read this:
On July 06 2015 11:01 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 06 2015 10:59 milo109 wrote:
Holy Crap this game is big.


like my dong


On July 06 2015 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:
scptt fuck you


On July 06 2015 08:00 KelsierSC wrote:
aight, I can beleeee dat


Dislike the dumb jokes. This is mildly amusing because my first read in my other game was based on tone too.


On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't.


I liked WaveofShadow just for his tone, but wasn't willing to pronounce him town for it. Holyflare's filter was a pleasure to read. No reads that felt discordant or forced. Casual enough, but also not afraid to explain.

On July 06 2015 11:24 milo109 wrote:
It's harder to read Damdred when you aren't mafia. I'm gonna call him mafia here though.


He usually waits to start calling people trash.


I hope you have more then this because you just voted for LS and haven't said shit about him in your filter. Was it Trfel's case?


He replies with
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On July 07 2015 10:47 milo109 wrote:
It was his filter. I haven't read Trfel's case yet. Good on him though.


And his reasons are

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On July 07 2015 10:50 milo109 wrote:
I hate all these posts.

On July 06 2015 07:36 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 06 2015 07:35 rsoultin wrote:
no, i'm the copcake!

...........


On July 06 2015 11:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I liking you this game KSC if you care just don't be a dick to me this game please? <3



On July 06 2015 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Good morning Tina any thoughts you would like to share?



Some quotes which I really do not see LS as alignment indictive - which is one of the reasons I think milo is scummy.

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On July 08 2015 02:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Not feeling an HTS lynch.

Try again town.


The most townie thing OWS has done all game.

My updated spreadsheet -

1) Marvellosity  townie been picking it up the last 36 hours with good marv thoughts
2) Scott31337  town
3) WaveofShadow  Voted HF weirdly (actually never did in thread) / null
4) Clarity_nl  mixed it with HF / slight town - defends Damdreds case ok - wants to lynch Vivax/BM/Milo
5) ruXxar  slight town/proviing insight of game - suspicious of rsoul, quite diff. then last game scums vivax/oats
6) Vivax  Meh/null of scum defends trfel calls Rsoul town
7) Bill Murray  wanderer claim/hasn't done shit otherwise, no CC
8) ritoky  reads boxer as town as well, claimed one shot cop, scum OBS
9) geript  slight town but could be doing this as either alignment - keep an eye out
10) boxerfred  scumlean posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. Scummers reading him town/votes HF with no solid reasoning. Seems to jump on any bandwagon lynch (oats, now clarity) Now HTS back to Oats
11) Meapak_Ziphh  No posts still as of yet.
12) Trfel  Crap start - really different from his last game - added apologies - don’t think he's mafia though. Unsure what to do with him.
13) LightningStrike  slight town Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases had an okay defense
14) Palmar  Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in but providing analysis - slight town
15) ObiWanShinobi  Bad vote on HF / scumlean - wants to lynch me for no reasons
16) KelsierSC  Trying to think the game / townlean
17) milo109  scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave - voted LS for bad filter reading
18) Breshke  A post or two I like asking LS about me - could be anything - weak mafia read on me - nullish town
19) Oatsmaster  Says Clarity /WoS mafia now wants to vote HTS although - scumlean
20) Damdred  Slight town going after LS believes in his case on Clarity but I think Clarity's town
21) rsoultin  not a great defense when pressured, paranoid of her - scumlean
22) Half The Sky  miller claim / decent listpost - flipped read on HF after being questioned which was weird - slight townlean
23) Harkon  Smurf - JAT? Suspicious of ritoky's claim, but. Slight town
24) Holyflare  Mindmelt opening - Doesn't like certain Rsoul's play - town lean (day 3/4 alive watch out)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X  Null- Vivax/Geript possible scum - Palmar town

I'm down most for a Milo lynch. I'm caught up in the thread.

@Boxerfred can you give an updated scum list? You just seem to be bouncing and voting and hoping to get something to stick - you went from HF (which you townread now?) to Oats, to HTS and then back to Oats. Are they all scummy?

@Breshke are you still scumreading me? Can you give me the reasoning of such?


They are in spoilers because they are too long. So at first glance I really don't like his lists like I said before it isn't inquisitive it is just surface stuff. But then I realised it isn't actually a reads list it is his own like nots list so he can rememebr what he was thinking about people in the game. This is why i asked if he normally takes notes and i started leaning a little townie on him because of this because yeah you can take notes as scum because in a big game like this youll probs need it BUT STILL it felt townie.

BUT THEN you look through the rest of his filter and all the people he has marked as like scumlean or w/e he doesn't pursue or pressure or anything really. So he isn't interested in his own reads he is interested in just posting in the thread and he is mafia


ok so it's a scott doesn't pressure his scum reads = scum kind of read
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
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July 08 2015 02:27 GMT
#3133
On July 08 2015 11:24 scott31337 wrote:
I went after milo and showed points of his play I did not like - I voted him. Others found points they did not like about him - Milo claimed two shot cop. He wasn't going to get lynched anymore. I'm still not feeling his claim, but Day two should show a little light on which way to go with that tomorrow.
It's majority lynch so it feels futile trying to go after four people at once (This is my first maj. lynch game, but it feels that way) If I am incorrect in thinking that, let me know.

I have an interview tomorrow so I'll pop on in the morning pacific time, and then won't be around until after day post. Leave me any questions if you'd like.




do you want a pny?
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 02:37 GMT
#3143
whatr
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 08 2015 02:39 GMT
#3147
On July 08 2015 11:38 milo109 wrote:
Hey... Rsoul is at the bottom. Not certain on her. I just despite wasteful smily-faces enough that I feel the need to include her on every scum list.


so why does this connect her to damdred
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 09 2015 20:16 GMT
#4210
I have quite a bit to catch up on
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 09 2015 20:33 GMT
#4233
lol I just got to the jk claim

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 09 2015 20:54 GMT
#4289
Ok i'm caught up.

I skimmed it so I need to look at some filters.

##vote Damdred

sorry for being AFK the past few days.

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 09 2015 20:58 GMT
#4299
On July 10 2015 05:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 10 2015 05:44 ritoky wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:42 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 10 2015 05:25 ritoky wrote:
I mean, I kinda have to believe damdred is mafia here...I spent the past bit trying to comprehend why he would JK me and outside of using it on me cuz of the relationship we have I can't particularly justify it. But looking at it from the other angle is more troubling. If damdred was the JK, that means that the mafia fully intended for 1 investigation to go through and they chose mine over milo's. I can't really comprehend that. I understand that it is an acceptable statistical risk to take and the math makes sense; but on the chance one of the cops finds a red target why would you prefer to get into a yelling match with me rather than milo? No offense to milo, but I can yell, kick, scream, and throw a fit better than he can. And it is not like my claim is so much shadier than his to where I have so much less credit to where I am a better option in that regard. I just don't get it. Especially now that I learned there was 0 kp on me....I just am having a hard time trying to see a scenario where the stars align....


If damdred is town JK, milo is scum and scum roleblocker hit you as well.


Can you explain this to me more thoroughly please.


So a scenario in which damdred is JK, harkon is vet and milo is scum:

1 kp on marv
1 kp on harkon
damdred JK > ritoky
scum RB > ritoky
milo claims he was roleblocked.

Tah dah, a scenario where damdred is town and it all fits.


Like I don't believe it's the case, but it's possible, just saying.


i assume you mean palmar instead of marv here
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