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On July 08 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote: How can you get both of your checks back so fast when I don't think you can use both of your checks in 1 night? I thought marv already quizzed them on how they could use their checks. Not sure why he'd say this. Ehhhhh, hold on. | ||
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He's probably just scumreading them, at least he did MZ, but why HF now? | ||
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Just skimming the thread on mobile, MZ is looking better and milo might actually not be scum. Onwards... | ||
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On July 08 2015 11:23 milo109 wrote: Alright. I figured out the game. The mafia team is: MZ HF LS Scott Rsoultin/Damdred This is in order of certainty. When I flip, remember remember the seventh of July. Couple of things as I catch up - I know the associative thing has already been commented on - but why are you so sure on this when 1 HF/Rasputin were going at it pretty hard and he was trying to get her lynched eod 2 Damdred was pushing LS before he dropped that read (which raises other questions admittedly) ...but how likely do you think it is for one, let alone two pairs of scummers to be going after each other like that d1, like what could they possibly achieve (particularly if they were to get their teammate lynched that early in the game)? | ||
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He's coming off WAY more aggressive (almost borderline dickish) in his mafia game, here he's extremely passive. But that's one game though, I don't know if he's had passive mafia games in the past. I know as town he criticises himself for a poor game/scumhunting so that could be something here in his favour. If I disregarded his scumgame and didn't know how his towngame was, I'd be inclined to scumread him for the passivity, he is fielding questions but not really driving or contributing much. If anyone who 1) knows him from NSM11 or another game where he's been scum or 2) has had large-game experience with him or experience where wos has had a poor town game before can comment one way or another let me know. Meta right now is the only reason I'd give WoS a townlean. | ||
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And if I'm right on the meta comparison with WoS, then geript and Kelsier might be on to something about Damdred being suspicious. I didn't understand geript at first when geript explained the comparison on Damdred but now after this I see a world where that theory - Damdred being mafia - is making much more sense. That could also explain him dropping the LS read the way he did - it was not probable LS was getting lynched but I'd have to crosscheck timestamps between both those two's filters to see what made him drop the read. (note so I don't forget...) | ||
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On July 08 2015 22:36 Harkon wrote: Now back to the shadows I go. Regardless of alignment HF will probably come out guns blazing and OMGUS me for this, nitpick anything he can find and whine some more. It will be annoying and I will ignore it. I had a giggle reading your comments - I brought up the same thing with his dropping the read on Trfel d1 and even ritoky (what for???) in narrowing down to milo and myself and he tried to get me lynched for it. I don't recall HF attacking Trfel (if he did I stand corrected) when Trfel popped in to give the read on HF - I think that was after he dropped me too - and even you criticised him for being irrelevant. Also he called my push uninspired (lol, whatever that means, I was at it with/on milo all of d1) and said Ras's push on ruxxar was BS but she's been back and forth with him on that. So just how he's scumreading people also was suspect, which is why I chose to look into HF's reasoning for scumreading Ras, because something just didn't seem right. His response to my thoughts on her scumreading Ruxxar and then wanting to push her still was just......ew. Trfel is a bit more contentious largely because he's been constantly behind, yet I've seen the scummy traits he's done in town games but in his favour, he had the very same problem in Assassination (a post-restricted) game as he's having here and now I think of it, I remember scumreading him in Assassination for the same reasons (which turned out to be wrong). I very well could be wrong on Trfel as well like I was in Assassination. He hasn't rolled scum often tbh in his time here and was pretty on it in NSM11. HF is still a scumread for me to be sure. It got to the point I purposely ignored him because it just fell in line with him trying to rile people (me anyways) up as I was trying to do things or read filters. It certainly fit the picture from Himalayas anyhow. | ||
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On July 08 2015 23:12 marvellosity wrote: i also still think ritoky is mafia. Same. | ||
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Palmar a little more difficult but I have a hunch someone in there is mafia flying under the radar. | ||
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And your desire to "lynch scott tomorrow" seems to have come from his 98% BM comment yet you liked his lists earlier. Same quote where you drop him and try to push Ras which others have pointed out the issue with that. On July 08 2015 07:03 Holyflare wrote: whatever trevor probably should lynch scott tomorrow (3 minutes after the lynch) Do you still want to lynch either of Scott or Ras, or one over the other? You don't mention the former at all since that last quote 3m after EoD. Even after Breshke brings him up! Why does it look like you are trying to see what sticks? (still reading through more filters....) | ||
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What gives me pause (is this the same thing you mean Breshke) is Scott's answer to Damdred's question: On July 08 2015 07:48 scott31337 wrote: It makes sense - His first and basically only post was wanderer. No else claimed wanderer(which they should have if they were D1, like Miller). I see it was a stupid remark like my drunk post the last game and I need to refrain from posting with emotion. It's not a bad lynch if he was going to be useless anyway I find it funny I started to believe Ziphh when he was mentioning different pages he was going thru in the thread and to give him a chance - and that has somehow stopped  The key words here being "first and basically only post" - I know when he gave me a townlean he also took either a listpost or something else that he considered me towny on. Would he have given me the same read if I did jack all d1? Somehow I doubt it. On July 07 2015 05:15 scott31337 wrote: Her, BTW. Usually it's a decent strategy to claim self-aware miller/wanderer in day 1 - if you try it later when you're already checked or being pressured no body will believe it. No body else has claimed miller as of yet (and BM claimed wanderer). I mean don't give her a confirmed town 100%, just look more into her thoughts and agenda - and at the moment they seem okay. HF had a good point though. Why did you "hardclaim" cop while Rsoul was being pressured? Why did you time it then? Why did you say it at all? What do you think of Palmar so far? I guess for now I go with the believe ritoky on his claim for today. (see bolded in second quote) So why did he believe BM? BM did jack all after the wanderer post. He tells others to look into MY thoughts and agenda. Why didn't he do the same with BM or even think that the fact there was no thoughts or agenda could be problematic? I don't know. But I don't think this is adding up. TMI? Breshke or anyone else - comments? | ||
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First off, well done Palmar. marv lives another day I'm most inclined to agree that Damdred is scum here. Re-read his filter and agreed with Harkon/EBH comments on Damdred. And geript like I said n1, I'll admit I didn't understand your explanation at first but once I did the metaread on WoS (whom Damdred pushed) that both OWS and marv confirmed, I became more confident you and KSC were onto something with Damdred. Well done. As for other roles... | ||
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On July 09 2015 08:35 scott31337 wrote: Sorry Damdred, you play better then this. I had a post on HTS and how she questioned me on the wanderer.+ Show Spoiler + On July 09 2015 02:44 Half the Sky wrote: It's a blue sham lets see if it works Kappa Reading Scott's filter. I don't like the beginning of game mindmeld concept but I remembered he also brought up a good point on BF that initially made me wonder if the latter is is flying under the radar. What gives me pause (is this the same thing you mean Breshke) is Scott's answer to Damdred's question: The key words here being "first and basically only post" - I know when he gave me a townlean he also took either a listpost or something else that he considered me towny on. Would he have given me the same read if I did jack all d1? Somehow I doubt it. (see bolded in second quote) So why did he believe BM? BM did jack all after the wanderer post. He tells others to look into MY thoughts and agenda. Why didn't he do the same with BM or even think that the fact there was no thoughts or agenda could be problematic? I don't know. But I don't think this is adding up. TMI? Breshke or anyone else - comments? I believed BM's wanderer claim just like I believed your miller claim - because it was in your first post and no one CC'ed. Like I said, BM wasn't a terrible lynch (non but I was pretty confident it was true. Should I not believe your miller claim? Scott that's not at all I was getting at. You described my claim by talking about my gameplay. As in the concept that there has to be behaviour to back it up. When you believed BM or made the argument for him, you mentioned it was the only post he made. There was no gameplay to back it up. That's the contradiction I'm trying to point out. Am I making sense now? | ||
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On July 09 2015 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote: I remember thinking Trfel is town purely because he is playing nothing like the last game where I was scum with him, but I feel like that on its own is kinda silly. Most of all he's likely town simply because he doesn't act/play this terribly as scum. brb I'm thinking he had a VERY similar game like this in Assassination and that was a post-restricted game. | ||
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