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Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:22 GMT
#2531
On July 08 2015 04:20 Half the Sky wrote:
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On July 08 2015 04:16 Harkon wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:15 marvellosity wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:14 milo109 wrote:
Sigh. I'm two-shot cop. Fun fun fun.

\o\ \o/ /o/

Was he attacking ritokys claim?


Well Harkon, for what it's worth....(bolded)

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On July 08 2015 03:15 milo109 wrote:
Yo HtS, I don't really understand this style of play. I'll answer your questions, but may I ask why you have decided to have this rather elongated conversation with me, a scum read? I still think KelsierSC is scum, yes. He has had the opposite reaction to me on almost every major event in the game. I've also disliked most of his one-liners, and that is almost all of his posting. I also think there is scum on both the town and mafia side of his list, something a mafia would almost have to do. As for Damdred, I also still think he is mafia. I voted for Ritoky because there isn't enough time to get a wagon started on the other two, but I would advise looking at them.

HF is weird. You're weird. LS is weird. Rsoultin is weird. Who knows if that is mafia indicative or not?


I've never had one-shot anythings in any of my games - should I assume that multiple x-shot roles in the same game are possible?

That quote seems pretty irrelevant considering that ritoky claimed his role. And yeah, mutiple x-shot roles are possible. the question however is how likely do you think it is that both of the wagons we created today randomly hit 2 cops.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:22 GMT
#2532
On July 08 2015 04:21 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 08 2015 04:20 Harkon wrote:
That's hard to believe.

why?

Seriously? You do not think it is?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:26 GMT
#2537
On July 08 2015 04:25 marvellosity wrote:
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the question however is how likely do you think it is that both of the wagons we created today randomly hit 2 cops.

this tickles me.

lower than hitting a mafia between them, i'd say...

Much lower.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:34 GMT
#2562
On July 08 2015 04:33 ritoky wrote:
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On July 08 2015 04:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:29 ritoky wrote:
i believe him for now, back to HtS. she was silent when i suggested consolidating on me or her, then people suggested milo as an alternative and she suddenly reappeared to be opportunistic. along w/ previously stated stuff.


More of this please ritoky


When a lynch goes through very easily on day 1 and there's little resistance it is usually on town or derp mafia. That's why I am more inclined to believe milo. The speed at which he garnered votes indicates he is likely town.

This is just not true.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:36 GMT
#2568
On July 08 2015 04:34 Half the Sky wrote:
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On July 08 2015 04:29 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:29 ritoky wrote:
i believe him for now, back to HtS. she was silent when i suggested consolidating on me or her, then people suggested milo as an alternative and she suddenly reappeared to be opportunistic. along w/ previously stated stuff.


More of this please ritoky


My vote was on you, I can't vote myself. I said a bazillion times you and he were my top two lynches. What is there for me to respond to? Not to mention you asked others why they werent' voting either one of us.

Would you please answer HF before he has an aneurysm?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:37 GMT
#2571
On July 08 2015 04:36 marvellosity wrote:
if there is a(nother) cop, claiming now would be totes worth it

Not if we are lynching into them anyways.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:43 GMT
#2582
The obvious benefit of not lynching into them is of course that scum can only rb one of them probably. So, if both of them claim rb tomorrow we can be sure that there is a mafia between them and if for some reason both of them are town they basically need to shoot one of them.
The problem is that we are not lynching into a pool of 2 people that likely contains mafia.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:45 GMT
#2585
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 08 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
Can we just go back to what I was saying before this milo thing happened?

A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful.


Do you guys really think mafia makes this post?

I see no reason why not.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:46 GMT
#2591
On July 08 2015 04:45 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 08 2015 04:43 Harkon wrote:
The obvious benefit of not lynching into them is of course that scum can only rb one of them probably. So, if both of them claim rb tomorrow we can be sure that there is a mafia between them and if for some reason both of them are town they basically need to shoot one of them.
The problem is that we are not lynching into a pool of 2 people that likely contains mafia.


Scum can just give us a meaningless green check though.

Yes, but then he has to justify not being shot or rbed because why would mafia let a claimed cop get a check?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:52 GMT
#2606
On July 08 2015 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 08 2015 04:49 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:46 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
Can we just go back to what I was saying before this milo thing happened?

A no-lynch is worse than lynching a 1-shot cop imo. So please consolidate on me or HtS. I do not want a no-lynch on day 1, it is awful.


Do you guys really think mafia makes this post?



Yes. It seems super desperate. Town should be going "FUCKING LYNCH HTS OBV SCUM WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING", not martyring the shit out of themselves.


It is literally the exact opposite of desperate.
What you think town should be doing and what town actually does are two completely different things.


I'm just saying mafia can make this post, the post in itself does not make mafia.

But I do think ti looks desperate. I agree town doesn't always does what it should but this whole "I'm town, lynching confirmed town is better than no-lynching" is very likely to come from scum.


No, I don't really think so.
Martyring almost always comes from town.

No, it doesn't.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:57 GMT
#2626
On July 08 2015 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads).

uncced
.
.
.
.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 19:58 GMT
#2633
On July 08 2015 04:57 ritoky wrote:
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On July 08 2015 04:55 scott31337 wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
People need to move their votes. There are still 7 votes on milo and I am pretty sure he is also a cop like me. Even if you think that we're not cops and there's 1 mafia between us, you're still lynching me over him because he has a 2-shot ability and I have a 1-shot.

As I said, consolidate onto HtS or me.

Vote movement please.


He'll be roleblocked/killed anyway - why would it matter two shot one shot? I don't see the reasoning here. He looks scummier then you.


Because a two-shot ability does more potential good for town than a 1 shot ability, thus the mechanically correct play is to keep the 2-shot over the 1-shot. doesn't matter though, we're both cops. i am like 96% certain he is a cop.

Even if both of you are town this is completely irrelevant because none of you will ever get a check off unless we get incredibly lucky.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:00 GMT
#2639
On July 08 2015 05:00 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:57 Harkon wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
I don't think I'll vote for ritoky today. Said before why (not lynching un-cc'ed blue claim if I have other reads).

uncced
.
.
.
.

Did I miss something?

Yes, milo claiming cop for example.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:05 GMT
#2653
On July 08 2015 05:03 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 04:58 Harkon wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:57 ritoky wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:55 scott31337 wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
People need to move their votes. There are still 7 votes on milo and I am pretty sure he is also a cop like me. Even if you think that we're not cops and there's 1 mafia between us, you're still lynching me over him because he has a 2-shot ability and I have a 1-shot.

As I said, consolidate onto HtS or me.

Vote movement please.


He'll be roleblocked/killed anyway - why would it matter two shot one shot? I don't see the reasoning here. He looks scummier then you.


Because a two-shot ability does more potential good for town than a 1 shot ability, thus the mechanically correct play is to keep the 2-shot over the 1-shot. doesn't matter though, we're both cops. i am like 96% certain he is a cop.

Even if both of you are town this is completely irrelevant because none of you will ever get a check off unless we get incredibly lucky.


and lynching cops increases the likelihood of getting a check out of these claims, A+ logic.

Don't play dumb now. The logic is that it is irrelevant if you are 1-shot or 2-shot and both of you are scummy individually hence why you both almost got a majority of voters.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:05 GMT
#2655
On July 08 2015 05:01 ritoky wrote:
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On July 08 2015 04:56 Holyflare wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:55 ritoky wrote:
On July 08 2015 04:54 Holyflare wrote:
anyone wanna do some crazy shenanigans onto people that nobody has mentioned for ages? :D


Who we considering?


well that's the problem you see, i dunno!


people who left no impression on me: BM, vivax, breshke, WoS

people i would lynch cuz they were wrong: damdred

if we're gonna shennanie onto some1 not mentioned, probably be one of these for me.

That's not the worst list I ever saw.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:12 GMT
#2672
I am not comfortable with lynching rsoultin when she claimed that she wouldn't be around until deadline. Let's lynch someone who is able to defend himself.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#2689
On July 08 2015 05:17 Trfel wrote:
I need to leave soon, and I haven't caught up in the thread.

I see that milo109 claimed two-shot cop, and Holyflare claimed vigilante.

If it's between milo109 and ritoky, I think I lynch ritoky.

I don't want to lynch Half the Sky, but I also don't know why people are scumreading her?

Anyway, (very) short version of why Holyflare is scum:

Someone once said that Holyflare gets mad as town, but not as scum. This isn't really true, but Holyflare's tone seems to be a fairly good way of reading him.

For example, in Linux Mafia, Holyflare was mad at most people in the game and towards the end of Day 1 started throwing suspicion more wildly at everyone. His anger didn't really have justification. Contrast with Guardians of the Galaxy, where Holyflare and Alakaslam scumread each other early on. Despite Alakaslam being somewhat scummy (he always is, to some extent), Holyflare eventually agreed that Alakaslam could be town, despite objectively having little reason for it. And he didn't let his anger get in the way of scumhunting.

Here, Holyflare's felt way too angry, way too often. One example of this is that he was angry at me. If Holyflare is very confident that I am scum, he should be happy at having caught me, not angry at me for doing scummy things. It makes sense for him to be angry at townies who don't want to lynch me. However, Holyflare's posting didn't at all seem interested in showing people why I am mafia, but instead focused on pointless arguing with me. Holyflare knows when an argument isn't going anywhere, especially when it's with one of his scumreads. Holyflare has no problem filling the thread with nonsense and arguing with no goal in mind.

This is really all you have? Really?
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:26 GMT
#2704
On July 08 2015 05:25 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 08 2015 05:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
hi fam I'm here, let me read thread and shit


dude

what the fuck

I bet he will be caught up in no time.
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:27 GMT
#2707
On July 08 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote:
I think I'd like him to catch up in the obs qt

:D
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 20:28 GMT
#2710
On July 08 2015 05:26 Holyflare wrote:
I mean, what purpose does trfel's post have if he has no intention of lynching me or getting me lynched?

That's the point. He comes in to give a useless read on a player that's not getting lynched and that is his only contribution all day.
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