TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 7

On June 18 2015 04:03 ritoky wrote:


bleh as shit of a play as this is it is likely true. you did this shit before with like 1 or 2 votes on you day 1...

On June 18 2015 04:43 ritoky wrote:


claiming blue under no lynch pressure day 1 is almost as anti-town as being mafia.....just sayin.

On July 07 2015 05:18 Holyflare wrote:


yeh well he's claimed medic d1 before too so i dunno

On July 07 2015 07:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright so I'm here now. Quick little summary of what I thought of this game so far.

Confident town reads

Holyflare - The first post of the game he made is the exact same thought I had as I entered the game, I find that pretty hard to fake and seems like a genuine thing that happened to him since it happened to me as well. Occam's razor here.

He also shares my scumread on trfel which I will explain further down.

Ruxxar - Way different posting style from his previous mafia game and isn't leaving giant gaping holes in his logic in ridiculously long-winded bs posts, just seems to be inquiring about information normally and genuinely seems interested in piecing together the puzzle. Hard to fake as a newer player.

Palmar - not much to say here I can just tell he's town. Finding the loophole in geript's logic and posting about him looking for his name are both reasons to townread him but I won't be surprised if i get roasted for this read.

Confident Scum Reads

Trfel - Honestly his posts just don't make any sense if he isn't in contact with somebody. He appears to be putting on a show for laughs and probably thinks he can get away with it in such a large game. If he isn't a mason or part of your knitting circle i'd advise to lynch this guy asap before he posts anything more in his mafia qt about how he is "trolling so hard ex dee"

Even when engaged in a very mild tone he still refuses to co-operate which should be a huge red flag.

*Possible blue role here that is using his claim to play the game for him, I don't know enough about him to make the distinction.

Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.

BONUS BLUE HUNT EDITION

ritoky was on my bluedar prior to the claim, im inclined to believe him.
Kelsier is on BlueWatch, slightly less abrasive posting style and trying to act stupid at points, could also be an attempt by his ego to think he might actually get nightkilled night one in this game and is preserving himself (?) weird playstyle so far
Oatsmaster is always a blue role so naturally he is on the watch list

Rest of my reads are unimportant at this point as there isnt really anything concrete just little notes and stuff

On July 07 2015 07:28 ruXxar wrote:


Why?

Vivax/Geript - We have a curious case here of a guy that is completely tunneling on some one else who is very emotional, but said emotional person is paying no attention to the constant posting done by the former. My explanation for this is that it is a bussing attempt by vivax (which he loves to do as mafia) and is being poorly reciprocated by geript who should try to make it more realistic but has a hard time getting angry about things that are fake as opposed to actual town members pressuring him. Just a theory for now that might prove useful later.

On July 07 2015 20:31 boxerfred wrote:

I disagree on "noone should give a fuck". Every claim at every point in the game deserves attention. However I agree, pointing out how interesting it is does indicate that clarity wants to put emphasis on the claim - which he did not do. Although he said that due to him, people were talking "5 pages" about the claim which was simply a lie. I pointed that out alread (roughly page 40something I think) and I will point to that again. That's one of the reasons why clarity still is among my top scum reads!

So I'm fine with lynching HF and clarity. I can see that HF is not going to be lynched today although I'm not liking marv yet. He's engaging and discussing, but he's not really making points. However it's day1, he just caught up, so I keep it at a null read and won't lean towards any alignment.

I'll re-go for clarity and I'm fine with anyone who joins me on that.

##unvote ##vote clarity_nl

On July 07 2015 20:46 Half the Sky wrote:
Alright, that clarity vote/unvote is a good catch. I'll check that area of the thread, and his filter as well and see if anything else pops up...

On July 07 2015 21:03 Half the Sky wrote:


Alright, milo, not sure if you are still here, but so it goes...

Re - KSC do you have any thoughts now? He's posted a tonne since you commented on him initially. KSC sometimes has those random one-liners and those aren't/can't be the only things you read from him. Looking at the timestamps it appears those were selectively placed, so does his gameplay since that (or even around those quotes) change your opinion at all?

A few of us have opposing opinions on HF and a couple voiced some dissenting opinions on Damdred - for example Vivax felt that his posts were loaded or baitworthy, like he was trying to reach for an excuse to scumread LS. Do you agree with this assessment (same question also at KSC when he returns btw), I had previously quoted it.

HF, I felt there is some selective reasoning. You probably want to look at the exchanges about 8-9 hours ago to get a sense of what was happening. (Admittedly he's probably not getting lynched today, but it's something that I think everyone needs to think about going on to later days.)

On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.

I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.

The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.

The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.

The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.

TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.

This guy is scum vot ehim.

On July 08 2015 00:20 Half the Sky wrote:


Read the top of page 98. I backed off once he stated it was correct. That was some confusion on my end. Although Palmar is saying otherwise, still I had him on my list of people to review.

Also HF, re the point on milo being meh, I'm still waiting for the latest round of his answers to my questions whcih he'd say he'd provide.

On July 08 2015 00:32 marvellosity wrote:

am sad.

On July 08 2015 00:33 Damdred wrote:


I don't think the point is invalid about the unvote imo or invalidates the point I tried to make. Thread sentiment went against wave to an extent hf pushed it, clary jumped on. Opportunity to jump off clar jumps off, i think misrepresenting my case into one point is dumb, like you don't even interact with the other points of it just that its scummy because marv was wrong about one of the points i talked about.

On July 08 2015 00:39 Damdred wrote:


You
Trfel
Wave

I wanted to lynch LS earlier, but idk it could be a bad read based on a meta hes trying to break i'd rather give him the night so i can look into his actions a bit more.