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I have never seen real snow ever | ||
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Have you worked out how to read bluehunter vivax or is it just dope because you have no idea how to read him still? | ||
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On July 12 2015 21:55 Holyflare wrote: I want you guys to lynch me today because it's not lylo and then you can lynch rsoultin, you guys say she's doing work but she's constantly repeating exactly what everyone keeps saying she has no actual proper reads. Milo is probably still mafia despite the odd one or two posts looking towny because there is no way he still believes in his lynch list that is based on mz flipping red. Then there's the whole 2 rb scenario. Trfel is playing absolutely useless and he's somehow ignored all the posts I've made towards him, add him to some kind of watch list. I still don't believe scott is so mafia-y but someone (trfel?) brought up that scott town read me on the first post while saying it wasn't indicative. Kinda like that point. Kinda can't be bothered since i get attacked every post i make so who cares right? You can see my opinions were genuine for next cycle. Okay I'll vote you before I go to sleep | ||
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I see people are questioning their ksc reads and it's a shame he hasn't actually posted in the thread at all but I still want to and will townreads him for his early stuff felt very natural | ||
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Tried reading his filter and early he seems to be kinda of all over the place with his scumreads which scott pointed out at the time which gives me weird feelings about scott. I also dislike his meta case on KSC because its based off of one game. I also dislike when he quotes peoples useless one liners as a reason to scumread because it feels like a weak thing to push on. I would have him lean scum if anything | ||
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On July 13 2015 20:16 Clarity_nl wrote: I like his progression regarding his read on me. Ummm i actually don't mind this. Like i looked for this read progression and it was seriously nowhere like he scumreads you the entire game for from what i can tell is your early HF reactions but from what i can tell he flipped because of your milo case? He says you have also been reasonable but he first seems to like you because of the milo case. Im guessing the flip there is the progression you liked? | ||
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On July 13 2015 20:29 KelsierSC wrote: it's based on your tone and the early vote. early vote is a bad indicator IMO because that is based on more who is in the game | ||
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On July 13 2015 20:43 Clarity_nl wrote: Without looking into filters it's about context I think. Apparently I was scummy d1 (whatever) but he wasn't pushing it cause there were scummier people. Then n1 he kinda went for me and then after all the claims he still thought I was scum but after my milo stuff he gave me a town lean, all makes sense to me. In general I just get the impression that boxerfred is trying to find scum. This makes a lot more sense now thankyou yes it sounds a lot better when you put it into context like that On July 13 2015 21:13 Half the Sky wrote: That's the thing though, the first 2 games BF as town he actually IS all over the place with relatively longish periods of afk. From what I can tell esp from my exp in Not Themed is that he's not a great scumhunter and I'm getting the same impression here. Some of his posts are repetitive but it may partially have to do with the fact that everytime he's in thread he's catching up at least 40+ pages. If he's scum, it's not necessarily for that based on what I know of his gameplay. Also if you skim this filter from NSM10....that's BF's filter as scum. He's 1) more tryhard (tone but yeh) 2) more aggressive (presumably with perfect information so his agenda is set) and 3) tries to make himself look more townie by putting in more effort to substantiate pushes against townies who are playing more suboptimally. That's the impression I got. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?user=boxerfred As for Scott pointing out BF are you saying Scott potentially has TMI or Scott might be picking off what he might perceive an easy lynch? If this is the game i think it is was this not his first game ever? Idk how much you can metaread someone from one game let alone their first. Other than that i like your explanation but when you say if hes scum does that mean you dont have him as a townlean but more like null? As for the scott comment i actually think it makes him look a little town because it he had the same thought I had while reading BF. I said it was intresting thought because it really isn't something that would make me flip my read though. | ||
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On July 13 2015 21:41 ruXxar wrote: I really like the idea that someone brought up that a lot of mafia could be hiding among the lurkers when most of the lynches are "auto". These are the people that I feel have been invisible enough to be in that group. Trfel Wave Scott Kelsier Breshke Obi EBH What's common for all of them is that they never really got into any heavy confrontations that I can remember where they had to defend or push their view. It's easy for mafia to sit back and soft push people, throwing out names and accusations etc without really trying to push their view onto other people or fight back when they get confronted with their views. Coupled with low activity and little interest in playing as mafia I feel like there should definitely be at least 1 mafia here if not 2 or more. Of the people on that list I like EBH and Obi the most, mostly due to the interaction I've had with them. That's not a very strong point though. The rest are meh tier. What changed ruxxar? | ||
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this is just confusing. Who is Rrwl | ||
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You also have to remember that there is also probs a framer or a role op so the tracker was fairly strong ASWELL with so many visiting mafia roles | ||
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Ruxxar you townread HF right? | ||
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Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active. Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment | ||
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On July 14 2015 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Does this make them mafia together or what? No it doesn't really mean much about HF's allighnment | ||
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On July 14 2015 11:24 Oatsmaster wrote: really? Dont you think its hard to call your mafia teammate town when hes obviously not? I don't think you could say HF is "obviously not" town. On July 14 2015 11:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: It just seems like such a weird point to focus on. I don't really get how this says anything about ruxxar really? Tell me why does ruxxar townreadread HF? | ||
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On July 14 2015 11:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Do me a favor and tell me instead? Or at least quote it? I'm not reading through this slog of a game to find something about a player that I haven't really had any ill-will towards this game, especially when it seems like such an irrelevant point to me. Also, I'm going to start posting bigger posts to hopefully keep my filter/the game readable. If anything I thought kelsier's analysis of Hf was scummy because he fixated on things that didn't really exist in order to read Hf as town, especially when I've seen him pull that kind of analysis as mafia before. Dnu. Kelsier had a really strong early game and I know people are dropping his name but I can't really seem to find the basis for that either. /shrug What did you think of that and how is ruxxar's read on Hf scummier than that? Sorry that question was jsut kind of a set up. Iirc tell he doesn't really qualify it anywhere other than saying "HF is making sense" which i cant seem to find now but yeah that is totally possible from a scum HF. His big thing this game was pushing the scummyness of rsoul interupting HF's pressure which he seemed to be really convinced that it made rsoul scummy which means he must be really sure the pressure came from a town. Yet i don't see how he can be so sure HF is town Is this making sense? I don't think it is. | ||
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Why would scott be afking this game though as mafia arn't they in a fairly good spot especially sicne im fairly sure KSC is going to flip town.. One game i noticed scott posts less as mafia im not sure if thats still true so it kind of makes sense but id be hyped if i was mafia | ||
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