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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 11 2015 16:06 GMT
#5433
On July 12 2015 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
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On July 12 2015 01:02 Breshke wrote:
not t sure what you were slash are trying to get out of that then. Let's still just kill Scott after milo that sounds like a plan.

It snowed today guys at mount lofty. It never snows here like actually never. Shits fucked


lol >< i wish it would snow i love snow


I have never seen real snow ever
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 12 2015 11:07 GMT
#5694
from my quick skim noone seems to mention my name when considering the lurkers so its probably a bad sign because when people remember i exist they will probs want to lynch me.

Have you worked out how to read bluehunter vivax or is it just dope because you have no idea how to read him still?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 12 2015 13:30 GMT
#5700
On July 12 2015 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
I want you guys to lynch me today because it's not lylo and then you can lynch rsoultin, you guys say she's doing work but she's constantly repeating exactly what everyone keeps saying she has no actual proper reads. Milo is probably still mafia despite the odd one or two posts looking towny because there is no way he still believes in his lynch list that is based on mz flipping red. Then there's the whole 2 rb scenario. Trfel is playing absolutely useless and he's somehow ignored all the posts I've made towards him, add him to some kind of watch list. I still don't believe scott is so mafia-y but someone (trfel?) brought up that scott town read me on the first post while saying it wasn't indicative. Kinda like that point.

Kinda can't be bothered since i get attacked every post i make so who cares right? You can see my opinions were genuine for next cycle.


Okay I'll vote you before I go to sleep
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 08:09 GMT
#5892
I'm kinda sad people didn't pile up on hf because that was so fake that martying like not even alignment indicative fake I don't think town it scum hf would just let himself get lynched so I wanted to see where it went

I see people are questioning their ksc reads and it's a shame he hasn't actually posted in the thread at all but I still want to and will townreads him for his early stuff felt very natural

Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 10:54 GMT
#5918
kels what was your meta read on me
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 11:10 GMT
#5921
Does anyone want to run me through why they think bf is town/mafia. I believe thread sentiment is town at the moment for him?

Tried reading his filter and early he seems to be kinda of all over the place with his scumreads which scott pointed out at the time which gives me weird feelings about scott. I also dislike his meta case on KSC because its based off of one game. I also dislike when he quotes peoples useless one liners as a reason to scumread because it feels like a weak thing to push on. I would have him lean scum if anything
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 11:35 GMT
#5926
On July 13 2015 20:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 13 2015 20:10 Breshke wrote:
Does anyone want to run me through why they think bf is town/mafia. I believe thread sentiment is town at the moment for him?

Tried reading his filter and early he seems to be kinda of all over the place with his scumreads which scott pointed out at the time which gives me weird feelings about scott. I also dislike his meta case on KSC because its based off of one game. I also dislike when he quotes peoples useless one liners as a reason to scumread because it feels like a weak thing to push on. I would have him lean scum if anything


I like his progression regarding his read on me.


Ummm i actually don't mind this. Like i looked for this read progression and it was seriously nowhere like he scumreads you the entire game for from what i can tell is your early HF reactions but from what i can tell he flipped because of your milo case? He says you have also been reasonable but he first seems to like you because of the milo case. Im guessing the flip there is the progression you liked?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 11:36 GMT
#5927
On July 13 2015 20:29 KelsierSC wrote:
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On July 13 2015 19:54 Breshke wrote:
kels what was your meta read on me


it's based on your tone and the early vote.


early vote is a bad indicator IMO because that is based on more who is in the game
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 12:27 GMT
#5935
On July 13 2015 20:43 Clarity_nl wrote:
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On July 13 2015 20:35 Breshke wrote:
On July 13 2015 20:16 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 13 2015 20:10 Breshke wrote:
Does anyone want to run me through why they think bf is town/mafia. I believe thread sentiment is town at the moment for him?

Tried reading his filter and early he seems to be kinda of all over the place with his scumreads which scott pointed out at the time which gives me weird feelings about scott. I also dislike his meta case on KSC because its based off of one game. I also dislike when he quotes peoples useless one liners as a reason to scumread because it feels like a weak thing to push on. I would have him lean scum if anything


I like his progression regarding his read on me.


Ummm i actually don't mind this. Like i looked for this read progression and it was seriously nowhere like he scumreads you the entire game for from what i can tell is your early HF reactions but from what i can tell he flipped because of your milo case? He says you have also been reasonable but he first seems to like you because of the milo case. Im guessing the flip there is the progression you liked?


Without looking into filters it's about context I think. Apparently I was scummy d1 (whatever) but he wasn't pushing it cause there were scummier people. Then n1 he kinda went for me and then after all the claims he still thought I was scum but after my milo stuff he gave me a town lean, all makes sense to me.

In general I just get the impression that boxerfred is trying to find scum.


This makes a lot more sense now thankyou yes it sounds a lot better when you put it into context like that

On July 13 2015 21:13 Half the Sky wrote:
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On July 13 2015 20:10 Breshke wrote:
Does anyone want to run me through why they think bf is town/mafia. I believe thread sentiment is town at the moment for him?

Tried reading his filter and early he seems to be kinda of all over the place with his scumreads which scott pointed out at the time which gives me weird feelings about scott
. I also dislike his meta case on KSC because its based off of one game. I also dislike when he quotes peoples useless one liners as a reason to scumread because it feels like a weak thing to push on. I would have him lean scum if anything


That's the thing though, the first 2 games BF as town he actually IS all over the place with relatively longish periods of afk. From what I can tell esp from my exp in Not Themed is that he's not a great scumhunter and I'm getting the same impression here. Some of his posts are repetitive but it may partially have to do with the fact that everytime he's in thread he's catching up at least 40+ pages. If he's scum, it's not necessarily for that based on what I know of his gameplay.

Also if you skim this filter from NSM10....that's BF's filter as scum. He's 1) more tryhard (tone but yeh) 2) more aggressive (presumably with perfect information so his agenda is set) and 3) tries to make himself look more townie by putting in more effort to substantiate pushes against townies who are playing more suboptimally. That's the impression I got.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?user=boxerfred

As for Scott pointing out BF are you saying Scott potentially has TMI or Scott might be picking off what he might perceive an easy lynch?


If this is the game i think it is was this not his first game ever? Idk how much you can metaread someone from one game let alone their first. Other than that i like your explanation but when you say if hes scum does that mean you dont have him as a townlean but more like null?

As for the scott comment i actually think it makes him look a little town because it he had the same thought I had while reading BF. I said it was intresting thought because it really isn't something that would make me flip my read though.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 12:55 GMT
#5940
On July 12 2015 08:20 ruXxar wrote:
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On July 12 2015 08:16 LightningStrike wrote:
On July 12 2015 08:13 ruXxar wrote:
On July 12 2015 07:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Anyone here want to talk about Day 4 lynches?


What are your thoughts? You want to lynch HF?

Yes I want to lynch HF Day 4 if I alive by that point. Any people you want to lynch Day 4?


Rsoul, Vivax, Trfel.


On July 13 2015 21:41 ruXxar wrote:
I really like the idea that someone brought up that a lot of mafia could be hiding among the lurkers when most of the lynches are "auto".
These are the people that I feel have been invisible enough to be in that group.

Trfel
Wave
Scott
Kelsier
Breshke
Obi
EBH

What's common for all of them is that they never really got into any heavy confrontations that I can remember where they had to defend or push their view.
It's easy for mafia to sit back and soft push people, throwing out names and accusations etc without really trying to push their view onto other people or fight back when they get confronted with their views.
Coupled with low activity and little interest in playing as mafia I feel like there should definitely be at least 1 mafia here if not 2 or more.

Of the people on that list I like EBH and Obi the most, mostly due to the interaction I've had with them.
That's not a very strong point though.
The rest are meh tier.


What changed ruxxar?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 12:58 GMT
#5941
wait trefel is on both lists that is my bad they can co exist together i guess
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 13:07 GMT
#5943
On July 13 2015 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 13 2015 21:58 Breshke wrote:
wait trefel is on both lists that is my bad they can co exist together i guess


in case you are unclear

[image loading]


this is just confusing. Who is Rrwl
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 22:15 GMT
#6287
Wtf it looks like I missed some exciting times.

You also have to remember that there is also probs a framer or a role op so the tracker was fairly strong ASWELL with so many visiting mafia roles
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 13 2015 22:50 GMT
#6312
You forgot me HF

Ruxxar you townread HF right?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 14 2015 01:47 GMT
#6345
I actually think ruxxar could be mafia aswell trefel.

Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active.

Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 14 2015 02:16 GMT
#6347
On July 14 2015 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 14 2015 10:47 Breshke wrote:
I actually think ruxxar could be mafia aswell trefel.

Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active.

Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment


Does this make them mafia together or what?


No it doesn't really mean much about HF's allighnment
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 14 2015 02:29 GMT
#6351
On July 14 2015 11:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On July 14 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 14 2015 10:47 Breshke wrote:
I actually think ruxxar could be mafia aswell trefel.

Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active.

Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment


Does this make them mafia together or what?


No it doesn't really mean much about HF's allighnment

really?
Dont you think its hard to call your mafia teammate town when hes obviously not?


I don't think you could say HF is "obviously not" town.

On July 14 2015 11:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 14 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 14 2015 10:47 Breshke wrote:
I actually think ruxxar could be mafia aswell trefel.

Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active.

Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment


Does this make them mafia together or what?


No it doesn't really mean much about HF's allighnment


It just seems like such a weird point to focus on.
I don't really get how this says anything about ruxxar really?


Tell me why does ruxxar townreadread HF?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 14 2015 02:39 GMT
#6355
On July 14 2015 11:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2015 11:29 Breshke wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 14 2015 10:47 Breshke wrote:
I actually think ruxxar could be mafia aswell trefel.

Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active.

Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment


Does this make them mafia together or what?


No it doesn't really mean much about HF's allighnment

really?
Dont you think its hard to call your mafia teammate town when hes obviously not?


I don't think you could say HF is "obviously not" town.

On July 14 2015 11:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:16 Breshke wrote:
On July 14 2015 11:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On July 14 2015 10:47 Breshke wrote:
I actually think ruxxar could be mafia aswell trefel.

Something about him always coming to HF's defense when he fake matrys jsut doesn't sit right with me. He doesn't have the fear in him that HF is mafia. I also have a problem with him talking about "lynch him later lynch him at lylo." As he already complained about the amount of lurkers in the game and it would just be the same situation he himself and HF took advantage of last game where they could easily steer the thread because they were some of the msot active.

Basically I don't think ruxxar is showing that townie paranoia and is too sure of his HF read especially when thread eladers like harkon and marv are unsure/flipfloppy on hf's allighnment


Does this make them mafia together or what?


No it doesn't really mean much about HF's allighnment


It just seems like such a weird point to focus on.
I don't really get how this says anything about ruxxar really?


Tell me why does ruxxar townreadread HF?


Do me a favor and tell me instead? Or at least quote it? I'm not reading through this slog of a game to find something about a player that I haven't really had any ill-will towards this game, especially when it seems like such an irrelevant point to me.

Also, I'm going to start posting bigger posts to hopefully keep my filter/the game readable.

If anything I thought kelsier's analysis of Hf was scummy because he fixated on things that didn't really exist in order to read Hf as town, especially when I've seen him pull that kind of analysis as mafia before.

Dnu. Kelsier had a really strong early game and I know people are dropping his name but I can't really seem to find the basis for that either. /shrug

What did you think of that and how is ruxxar's read on Hf scummier than that?


Sorry that question was jsut kind of a set up.

Iirc tell he doesn't really qualify it anywhere other than saying "HF is making sense" which i cant seem to find now but yeah that is totally possible from a scum HF. His big thing this game was pushing the scummyness of rsoul interupting HF's pressure which he seemed to be really convinced that it made rsoul scummy which means he must be really sure the pressure came from a town. Yet i don't see how he can be so sure HF is town

Is this making sense? I don't think it is.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 14 2015 15:54 GMT
#6517
I don't think ruxxar saying clarity planned his interaction with HF. Yet HF could be town and clarity scuum makes any sense since that isn't really planning something because he wouldn't have known HF was going to post something like that
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 14 2015 15:56 GMT
#6519
No actually im just being an asshole it makes sense just maybe not the best wording idk

Why would scott be afking this game though as mafia arn't they in a fairly good spot especially sicne im fairly sure KSC is going to flip town.. One game i noticed scott posts less as mafia im not sure if thats still true so it kind of makes sense but id be hyped if i was mafia
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