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milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 02:41 GMT
#3148
It's / as if to signify either one. Geript could be mafia. Can we lynch MZ first and confirm my crazy hypothesis? Once that is done, future steps can be taken.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 02:42 GMT
#3150
Also.. if anyone thinks this is anything like how I played last game............ To quote rsoultin, 'xP' And if you think we only got one single shot cop, 'xP'
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 02:43 GMT
#3151
On July 08 2015 11:42 Breshke wrote:
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On July 08 2015 11:41 milo109 wrote:
It's / as if to signify either one. Geript could be mafia. Can we lynch MZ first and confirm my crazy hypothesis? Once that is done, future steps can be taken.


What future steps won't you be dead?

Meh. Probably gonna be roleblocked and then mislynched. Trying to leave a legacy.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 02:46 GMT
#3153
On July 08 2015 11:43 Breshke wrote:
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On July 08 2015 11:42 milo109 wrote:
Also.. if anyone thinks this is anything like how I played last game............ To quote rsoultin, 'xP' And if you think we only got one single shot cop, 'xP'


Yeah and we can have other blue roles who didn't actually claim D1. Claiming cop doesn't mean you don't have to make sense.


I did my best to be reasonable and coherent, and was forced to out because of it. I'll give my reads tonight, and explain them if you wish. When I die, they will probably be ignored. That's fine. But I think I'm at least supposed to try.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 02:47 GMT
#3154
Plus I want to be right so I can yell at people at the end for not listening to me. Major motivation right there.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 02:52 GMT
#3156
This is operating under the assumption that MZ is mafia. I can explain that if others can't see what I see, but... to me it is pretty clear. So, what do mafia do if they know their buddy is about to get mislynched? They throw out any other reasonable alternative. In this case, BM. It obviously follows that some of the first to start the lynch on BM were scum partners. I chose those I thought were most scummy while also being the earliest to switch. I 100% think holyflare is mafia now, which I can also explain if others can't see it.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 03:05 GMT
#3161
On July 08 2015 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On July 08 2015 11:52 milo109 wrote:
This is operating under the assumption that MZ is mafia. I can explain that if others can't see what I see, but... to me it is pretty clear. So, what do mafia do if they know their buddy is about to get mislynched? They throw out any other reasonable alternative. In this case, BM. It obviously follows that some of the first to start the lynch on BM were scum partners. I chose those I thought were most scummy while also being the earliest to switch. I 100% think holyflare is mafia now, which I can also explain if others can't see it.


This hinges on MZ being mafia.
Can you make a case on MZ being mafia at this point in time?

Otherwise you have nothing.


Er. Yes it does. Read the first two sentences please.


Okay. The case on MZ!

First, I think he was trying to buy town credit by not voting on BM. After all, all scum care about is self-preservation, right? He reallllly overplays it.

On July 08 2015 07:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
and milo whatever the fuck you claimed in order to get the heat off of you is worthless in my mind until you can prove it.


This is silly. It is impossible to prove a cop claim. Impossible to prove beyond any shred of doubt. Maybe if I get a red and we lynch him, I was only bussing, right? There is always a case to be made.

On July 08 2015 07:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On July 08 2015 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
lol all of these fake reactions

i literally couldn't give a shit if he flipped town

^honesty looks a lot better than fake surprise/indignation

now let's wait for all the people who weren't around at the deadline to come in and say how bad we were and how they knew BM was town.


Hey look at all the cuddles between the scum partners!

On July 08 2015 09:53 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On July 08 2015 09:49 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:
On July 08 2015 09:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ohh also the post here:
On July 08 2015 02:58 Vivax wrote:
Would lynch Wave.

He didn't do jack all to push something. As town he should compose a certain threat level to scum players but i I were scum this game I would just assume he's a docile sheep that won't hurt me, simply cause he'd be on my team.

There's a bit of questioning there, a few townreads here, an angry vote on HF somewhere, but I totallly don't get a vibe of ambition to find the mafia from his posts.


zero follow up after this and given how wave has been playing it smells like scum vivax throwing out a safe read onto a fellow red who is in no danger of being lynched (wave).

But more on Wave later.
<3 5ever mang but I haven't seen the sunshine and rainbows I was expecting in your filter


i would now be interested in your read on damdred

tell me what you think

I'm on page 123, he hasn't had any posts that gave me serious concern that I remember. Null town? I feel like he had a post where he shared some suspicions I had.


do you have any thoughts on rsoul or LS

sorry to keep distracing you

I think rsoultin is probably town and I also think the RS/HF dispute is green on green.

idk about LS, not really on my radar but probably worth a read through when I finish.


Fence/green reads on people who changed the wagon to BM.

On July 08 2015 09:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I finally got to Milo's claim and for the record I think it's complete bullshit

cc: the people who were asking me if I wanted to lynch a claimed cop earlier.


He doesn't believe either claims? What, do we have no cop at all? Are we going to believe a cop that outs day 2? Probably with a green check on a partner?

Also... inactive all game until he is about to be lynched. Explain it however you wish. Still weird.

milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 03:06 GMT
#3162
On July 08 2015 11:58 geript wrote:
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On July 08 2015 11:30 milo109 wrote:
It had to be people who led the train on BM. And I hated most of them already.

1. They didn't lead the lynch on BM
2. Why did you hate them already?


1. I looked through the voting thread and compared it with my notes.
2. Cause they all played scummy.

I didn't start the fire.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 03:07 GMT
#3163
On July 08 2015 11:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Even if you think there were people going out of their way to save MZ, why were they only scum for doing so and why can't they be town trying to save someone they think is town?

It's the same concept. The theory you're bringing up COULD hold water, but even if it did you'd be able to make cases on those players anyway without the associative reads involved.


I don't have time tonight. Trust in your power role.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 03:12 GMT
#3167
On July 08 2015 12:08 geript wrote:
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On July 08 2015 12:06 milo109 wrote:
On July 08 2015 11:58 geript wrote:
On July 08 2015 11:30 milo109 wrote:
It had to be people who led the train on BM. And I hated most of them already.

1. They didn't lead the lynch on BM
2. Why did you hate them already?


1. I looked through the voting thread and compared it with my notes.
2. Cause they all played scummy.

I didn't start the fire.

How did they play scummy?


It's an individual thing. As I said, I don't have time tonight to make full cases against all of them. Made a quick one against MZ. Holy has been MZ's buddy, and said some very odd things. I commented on some of them in an earlier post. LS... LS is the one I might be wrong on, but.... he plays so odd. SO odd. Scott has been making weird noises at everyone but not doing anything, quite different from our game together. The last two I dislike how they have been playing and how happy they were to jump on the new train. Damdred isn't usually this caustic.

Remember, the truth is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefore be treated with great caution.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 03:15 GMT
#3169
On July 08 2015 12:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
1) Doesn't matter. He might not have thought BM was mafia. He still voted BM to save himself which is pretty much exactly what I would expect and "overplaying it" is irrelevant.

No it isn't. I did the -exact- same thing as mafia last game. It is an easy way to gain town credit.

2) Your point on him doubting your claim doesn't mean a whole lot. People doubt claims. It's normal.

No no. Doubting both claims is the weird thing. We do have cop(s).

3) I don't see how what MZ said to HF means that he can only be interacting with a scum partner. I thought the same thing about Hf's post, so why am I not mafia for saying something similar?

Because you didn't town read MZ before hand and as a response.

4) There's no fence there. I don't really see the issue with this post. I thought the same thing about the Rso/HF fight.

By itself, the quote is fine. But when used in context? MZ is picking the low-hanging fruit.


milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 03:20 GMT
#3171
If your determination to shut your eyes will carry you as far as this, ObiWanShinobi, we have reached a parting of the ways. You must act as you see fit. And I -- I shall act as I see fit.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 03:24 GMT
#3173
If you think I'm actually getting a check off at any point in this game....
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 03:29 GMT
#3176
It tells us so much.. Jk. JK.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 03:58 GMT
#3183
Oats knows what is up.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 13:39 GMT
#3354
HtS, I don't actually think I've solved the game. Obviously, I'm probably wrong on a couple people. But this is where I want to look.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 14:06 GMT
#3363
On July 08 2015 22:54 Holyflare wrote:
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On July 08 2015 22:39 milo109 wrote:
HtS, I don't actually think I've solved the game. Obviously, I'm probably wrong on a couple people. But this is where I want to look.


I have no idea how you still scum read me for a post where I corrected your faulty knowledge and you agreed it was faulty.

The ability to correct my logic does not prove your alignment either way.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 14:14 GMT
#3377
The only problem is if you lynch ritoky and he flips cop, you'll want to lynch me, and then town probably has no more cops. Now if he flips mafia, well that is big game.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 14:18 GMT
#3385
On July 08 2015 23:15 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 08 2015 23:14 milo109 wrote:
The only problem is if you lynch ritoky and he flips cop, you'll want to lynch me, and then town probably has no more cops. Now if he flips mafia, well that is big game.

fwiw i tihnk you are quite a bit townier than i thought you were towards end of day 1.

besides we can't not lynch someone because you'd get in trouble for it, and i think you know that

Yeah. I'll vote for him. But if he does flip town, mafia are in a perfect spot.
milo109
Profile Joined May 2015
466 Posts
July 08 2015 21:31 GMT
#3593
You people. I come up with a list of scum, and you call it ridiculous because it rests on MZ being scum. And then MZ does some very idiotic posts, and you all says, 'Oh. I think he is scum. Well... Milo can't possibly have seen this before me.. He must be scum too.'
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