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From my own meta/experience with him, he's town. I am also aware he's recently had scum success though, so I would think he's going to be smart enough to replicate his town game as much as possible.
Am I making sense now?
On July 07 2015 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I just don't get it hts, none of what I said is to do with afking in the slightest. That was just a cursory pressure post at the start of the game. Everything is to do with his return which is a more than prominent feature in this thread if you read through it since BH had to make a public announcement about the shit I was wading through.
Since i've never seen him do it in any of his town games and nobody has corrected me to say otherwise, I simply have no idea how you and rsoul can say the exact same thing that his meta and tone reads point to him being town.
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On July 07 2015 01:33 Damdred wrote:
Well that took a bit to read a good amount of town reads from it sorta, these are the people id want to lynch today
Trfel
Ritoky
LIGHTNINGSTRIKE
these are my most wanted lynched obvious preference
tell me town reads and why
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Also, isn't rsoul flustered because of me repeatedly beating her down with the stupid stick? Not sure how that was overlooked at all and you couldn't remember?
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LS, i'm holding you to a high standard this game. You need to make it up to everyone after last game anyway apparently. SO, tell me all of your reads and why you think them and how things are going down.
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On July 07 2015 01:45 Vivax wrote:
I retract that I would sheep on Trfel, I realized he posted more than I thought.
We should kill geript for being a liar.
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"I will sheep hf's read that trfel is posting contentless drivel"
"i will not sheep hf's read on trfel because he's posted LOTS of contentless drivel"
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On July 07 2015 01:47 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 01:39 Holyflare wrote: From my own meta/experience with him, he's town. I am also aware he's recently had scum success though, so I would think he's going to be smart enough to replicate his town game as much as possible. Am I making sense now? On July 07 2015 01:30 Holyflare wrote:
I just don't get it hts, none of what I said is to do with afking in the slightest. That was just a cursory pressure post at the start of the game. Everything is to do with his return which is a more than prominent feature in this thread if you read through it since BH had to make a public announcement about the shit I was wading through.
Since i've never seen him do it in any of his town games and nobody has corrected me to say otherwise, I simply have no idea how you and rsoul can say the exact same thing that his meta and tone reads point to him being town. Alright, my experience/meta does not cover the game where Trfel helped carry mafia (NSM11) as I did not actually play in that game. My understanding of that game is that he won the game based on how he filter dove people and spun his arguments. If your problem is with the way he's deflecting and posting what you seem to be scumreading him for, I can tell you he did the same thing in Down Under 2. He made several posts about music composition and whatnot and then actually cased the hosts in lylo. And he was town that game. Please tell me I am making more sense than I have done before?
That's the only thing I needed. His opening looks a lot like his mafia game though because of the no content and i've never seen a town game where he's done the same. It also fits the mafiarollingitis theory to a tee.
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hey hey we all live in london let's go to the pub 
apart from marv cz he's a scummy non-londoner
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On July 07 2015 01:55 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 01:54 Holyflare wrote:hey hey we all live in london let's go to the pub apart from marv cz he's a scummy non-londoner I can sheep this. Still wanting to go to piccadilly institute? 
well i'm no millionaire
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On July 07 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote:
I might as well ignore this whole Trfel thingy since he started doing a little bit of something lately until geript the lying scum is burned for his crimes.
Posting useless drivel doesn't auto-mean somebody is scum, just that he wants to post useless drivel for some reason. Much better to look either into the nice guys a la Ruxxar (I'm suspicious of him by standard cause I feel he tries to be everybody's bro, but not willing to call him mafia yet given he also called some shit out that seemed original), and the "too-tryhard-to-be-really-scumhunting" guys a la geript who seems to imitate his ideal townie prototype who calls people mafia as if it was god given and tries to shit on everybody trying to look like he's a dick.
then why on earth did you ever want to sheep trfel read in the first place?? This is the most bs post ever dude
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No it's not like that at all. Trfel is a consistently logical and well thought out player that posts a lot of what he thinks and is very opinionated ALWAYS. You can't possibly find a game in the database where he has ever opened like this at all. It doesn't exist. I have also played as mafia and try harded enough to experience the burnt out effect of mafiarollingitis. This looks like classic burnt out mafia rolling mafia again.
That's not even the whole thing. You can see when he does actually try and start to contribute his posts ask circular questions that never meant to receive an answer that makes sense:
On July 06 2015 16:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:18 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 16:17 Breshke wrote:On July 06 2015 16:15 Trfel wrote:On July 06 2015 16:14 Breshke wrote:
Trefel what are you doing? Not much, why? I ment like in the thread i thought you had an angle. But then you started asking questions so meh. I had something in mind, but it didn't actually show anything. On July 06 2015 16:14 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:13 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, do you think that Holyflare is scum? not particularly xP Now, if only I knew your alignment.... As you can see here. No matter what you answered his reply would always be the same. It's a redundant circular question meant to appear contributary but actually just clutters the thread incessantly drawing us away from actual important things.
It's not a thought process, it's literal questions for the sake of asking questions.
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If by forcing you to read him one way or another you mean presenting logical and well thought out facts that counter your made up heresay facts from carol that ended up not even being true then sure.
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yeh what a useless post again
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it's also pretty convenient you miss out these posts in your crappy narrative:
On July 06 2015 16:31 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it
On July 06 2015 16:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote:
And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game.
I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you
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"oh hf totally misrepresented me defending trfel because look i didn't" (if i eliminate the posts from my filter where i do!)
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like shocker, i push people with things that don't make sense all the time or aren't that strong to get them to react and feel like they are under pressure and slip up and you constantly defend them and eliminate it and throw out the irrelevant points that completely negate anything i try to do "because your tone read of null is so far superior!"
just because you don't get it or know trfel is town doesn't mean you have to broadcast that to everyone
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On July 07 2015 02:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 02:42 Holyflare wrote:it's also pretty convenient you miss out these posts in your crappy narrative: On July 06 2015 16:31 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:29 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not doing this for you. I want people to lynch him and I'm proving he's mafia. You can keep yelling tone read in the corner though. lol wow you really don't get it, do you? truffle is fully capable of making shit up from a filter...as i understand it, that's how he was so successful his last scum game xP it's actually a fucking towntell for him to be taking his time to actually read through the thread instead of just throwing shit out there but keep barking about it On July 06 2015 16:39 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 16:34 Holyflare wrote:
And at what point does it look like he's taking his time to read the thread at all? 0 of his points are orientated to this thread. If they are they are certainly picked out of the weirdest topics with 0 relevance. He actually has 1 point about the first post in the game.
I don't think you understand mafiarollingitis at all so you shouldn't try to comment on it being relevant that he's taking his time to shit up the thread when that's an exact symptom. Town trfel is far more calculated, opinionated and precise. ^^ i understand what you're trying to push. i'm saying it's nai for truffle at best, that you're conveniently only focusing on his best qualities (that he's proven he's capable of replicating as scum anyway, so lol ><) and yes, i'm damn good at tonereading this kid. because i actually talk to him and KNOW him outside of these mafia games, which is definitely more than can be said for you want to post your posts in between that, pretty? lol >< are you trying to be hypocritical or does it just come naturally to you?
I'm not sure how my posts in between are relevant at all since i'm not defending the stance that I was a dick. I'm saying I had a purpose and you repeatedly spewed tmi or an inability to see the direction of where things were going. If your read is null and someone is pushing something then I have no idea why you'd go in the opposite direction and defend them when your read is null.
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On July 07 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 02:48 Harkon wrote:
Rsoultin and HF.
Please stop shitting up the thread with this unless you have new relevant arguments about someones alignment. Yes, it is weird how dismissive and condescending Holyflare is towards you, rsoultin. I am well aware of that. But instead of ranting about it try to find actual arguments for why what he says about Trfel is not true. If you are town you are not achieving anything by throwing a fit.
HF stop trying to make her rage. It's the best excuse for her to avoid contributing meaningful things. now i'm not sure if i know whose smurf you are after all -_- bueno, that's not important truffle played like this in down under 2 and assassination, and i have no earthly clue what hf actually thinks to achieve by this unless he believes what he's saying, in which case he's not interested in truffle's alignment anyway because he's already made up his mind
no he didn't
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On July 07 2015 02:57 Vivax wrote:Might I add you said this one minute after it has been posted so you didn't even finish reading it, and you can't convince me that you have some sick fast-reading skills.
I did read it since there's only about 5 lines of actual text and the rest are quotes that i've written
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i've read his filter and he actually plays the game which he has yet to do despite actually being here.
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