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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 22 2015 00:04 GMT
#8481
I voted for her yesterday and thought the same thing.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 22 2015 00:13 GMT
#8482
Hey HtS any thoughts at all about anything?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 22 2015 02:12 GMT
#8483
ok, i think its really unlikely both clarity and rsoul are mafia.

Rsoul didnt die cause shes mislynch #1.

No gg, No skill.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 22 2015 03:16 GMT
#8484
I really hope that rsoultin is town

Assuming that I was 100% confirmed as town, would anyone still be scumreading rsoultin?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 22 2015 03:20 GMT
#8485
On July 22 2015 12:16 Trfel wrote:
I really hope that rsoultin is town

Assuming that I was 100% confirmed as town, would anyone still be scumreading rsoultin?

Why is your alignment linked to rsoul?

The dma thing?

I dont think its alignment indicative.
No gg, No skill.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 22 2015 03:27 GMT
#8486
Oh, and one more thing, before I forget.

THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT!!!

On July 22 2015 07:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count


Clarity_nl (5): Trfel, Half the Sky, XEliteBlueHunter69X, Oatsmaster, rsoultin
rsoultin (4): ruXxar, boxerfred, Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow

Not Voting (0):

Currently, Clarity_nl is set to be lynched. With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends at Wednesday, Jul 22 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

Voting is Mandatory! Voting is done in the voting thread: (link)
This is the current vote count. Unless someone voting for Clarity_nl votes for rsoultin instead, Clarity_nl is going to be lynched.

However, this is LYLO. Mafia just needs to not get lynched, it doesn't matter if they out the entire mafia team in the process. For example, if there is one mafia on Clarity_nl right now, and no one moves their vote, at the very last second this mafia member can change their vote to some random person to result in a no lynch, instantly winning the game.

Basically, this means that any town voting for the losing wagon at End of Day is extremely detrimental for town. Even if you are almost positive that the person being lynched is town and the other wagon is scum, it's STILL better to switch votes and prevent scum from being able to force a no lynch. At least that way, there is a chance of winning.



Anyway, I'm not lynching rsoultin. I just have a really, really hard time seeing her as scum. Because of her defense of me, but also because of her reason for XEliteBlueHunter69X being town (which is really good, and I'm not sure scum would really want to share, unless XEliteBlueHunter69X is also scum but I think that is very unlikely), and because of her willingness to post purely to show her thoughts and without any interest in looking good.

Honestly, I worry a bit that Oatsmaster could be mafia. I just never know how to read him, and I didn't read enough of this game to be confident in townreading him. His posting this game seems very good, but he has a very capable scum game, so I'm not entirely sure. I guess it's not too big of a deal, because if he is scum the game is probably lost, but it does worry me a little.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 22 2015 03:28 GMT
#8487
On July 22 2015 12:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 12:16 Trfel wrote:
I really hope that rsoultin is town

Assuming that I was 100% confirmed as town, would anyone still be scumreading rsoultin?

Why is your alignment linked to rsoul?

The dma thing?

I dont think its alignment indicative.
Why would rsoultin defend me when I'm clearly not playing with out-of-game information as mafia? I just can't possibly see what she could hope to gain from this.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 22 2015 03:49 GMT
#8488
Ok, I changed my mind on WaveofShadow. I think he's mafia.

Most likely Clarity_nl, WaveofShadow, and one of ruXxar/boxerfred.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 22 2015 04:08 GMT
#8489
On July 22 2015 12:28 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 12:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:16 Trfel wrote:
I really hope that rsoultin is town

Assuming that I was 100% confirmed as town, would anyone still be scumreading rsoultin?

Why is your alignment linked to rsoul?

The dma thing?

I dont think its alignment indicative.
Why would rsoultin defend me when I'm clearly not playing with out-of-game information as mafia? I just can't possibly see what she could hope to gain from this.

giving townreads as mafia is a thing that happens.
she did it to pocket you. Thats a decent reasom/
No gg, No skill.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 22 2015 04:10 GMT
#8490
On July 22 2015 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 12:28 Trfel wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:16 Trfel wrote:
I really hope that rsoultin is town

Assuming that I was 100% confirmed as town, would anyone still be scumreading rsoultin?

Why is your alignment linked to rsoul?

The dma thing?

I dont think its alignment indicative.
Why would rsoultin defend me when I'm clearly not playing with out-of-game information as mafia? I just can't possibly see what she could hope to gain from this.

giving townreads as mafia is a thing that happens.
she did it to pocket you. Thats a decent reasom/
But why would she want to pocket me when I made it clear that I wasn't going to play the game, when she knows that I am ridiculously lazy as town, and I was looking like one of the best vigilante shots?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 22 2015 05:01 GMT
#8491
On July 22 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:28 Trfel wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:16 Trfel wrote:
I really hope that rsoultin is town

Assuming that I was 100% confirmed as town, would anyone still be scumreading rsoultin?

Why is your alignment linked to rsoul?

The dma thing?

I dont think its alignment indicative.
Why would rsoultin defend me when I'm clearly not playing with out-of-game information as mafia? I just can't possibly see what she could hope to gain from this.

giving townreads as mafia is a thing that happens.
she did it to pocket you. Thats a decent reasom/
But why would she want to pocket me when I made it clear that I wasn't going to play the game, when she knows that I am ridiculously lazy as town, and I was looking like one of the best vigilante shots?

because at that point you werent gonna get mislynched so pushing you as a scumread is bad + there are a lotta other townies looking bad.

With not everyone wanting to lynch wave, seems pretty likely that hes mafia.

No gg, No skill.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 22 2015 05:07 GMT
#8492
On July 22 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 13:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:28 Trfel wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 22 2015 12:16 Trfel wrote:
I really hope that rsoultin is town

Assuming that I was 100% confirmed as town, would anyone still be scumreading rsoultin?

Why is your alignment linked to rsoul?

The dma thing?

I dont think its alignment indicative.
Why would rsoultin defend me when I'm clearly not playing with out-of-game information as mafia? I just can't possibly see what she could hope to gain from this.

giving townreads as mafia is a thing that happens.
she did it to pocket you. Thats a decent reasom/
But why would she want to pocket me when I made it clear that I wasn't going to play the game, when she knows that I am ridiculously lazy as town, and I was looking like one of the best vigilante shots?


in all honesty, probably xP though "pocket" may not be the right word, i'm capable of doing most of the things i do as town as scum

eh...there's not a ton to say anymore? the only people on me are the ones who aren't interested in talking to me, or have no vested interest to do so, being the other wagon. clarity's probably scum but even if he's not, unless we could get a mass shift onto scum, it doesn't matter

as a sidenote...i dunnae about bf anymore lol >< i have a hard time comprehending a good number of his posts coming from town, but an equally hard time comprehending some of them coming from scum, so it's just eeeeeh for me
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 22 2015 05:11 GMT
#8493
I looked through the first several pages of Clarity_nl's filter and decided I'm happy to lynch him.

Anyone want to talk about stuff?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 22 2015 05:16 GMT
#8494
On July 22 2015 14:11 Trfel wrote:
I looked through the first several pages of Clarity_nl's filter and decided I'm happy to lynch him.

Anyone want to talk about stuff?

er yeah, who else is mafia?

We still have 2 mafia to go after clarity.

wave+someone.
No gg, No skill.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 22 2015 05:22 GMT
#8495
leave any questions for me...i'll get to them in the morning @.@ she's decided to be a rooster this week
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 22 2015 05:22 GMT
#8496
On July 22 2015 14:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 14:11 Trfel wrote:
I looked through the first several pages of Clarity_nl's filter and decided I'm happy to lynch him.

Anyone want to talk about stuff?

er yeah, who else is mafia?

We still have 2 mafia to go after clarity.

wave+someone.
I think the most likely people are ruXxar and boxerfred, currently I'm maybe leaning towards boxerfred. Some chance of rsoultin, but I guess I just have a really hard time seeing that.

I'm leaning for boxerfred due to just the sheer amount of disinterest he seems to show. He's not wanting to discuss or re-evaluate at all. RuXxar seems to be trying to figure things out. Though I know ruXxar can play reasonably well as mafia, I just really think that town!boxerfred would be more willing to interact with people.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 22 2015 05:59 GMT
#8497
I think that mafia boxerfred will be more neutral and not so aggro though.
Cause its not like if we lynch mafia here we win, still got 2 more mafia to go so he has to be able to convince people.

No gg, No skill.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 22 2015 07:35 GMT
#8498
I've been thinking more about the worlds I figured out yesterday and how they relied on scum wanting to hammer mafia.
After trfel presented the argument that scum would do just fine with a no-lynch, I went back and looked at how teams could align if mafias primary goal was to not lynch one of their own.

This is world #3:
Rsoultin is town.
Mafia is : Boxerfred, wave + trfel/clarity.

In this world trfel and clarity are not the same alignment.
Clarity/trfel and ebh are not the same alignment.

I'm more inclined to believe that trfel is the scum on this team due to the fact he's the only one to present the logic that a no-lynch is just fine for mafia.
(But why would he need to tell us in the thread you ask? It's a wifom play, none of him or his partners are in danger of getting voted out. He gets town cred for trying to solve the game).

Clarity would be scum due to the way he just left his vote on EBH and went afk.
He did say he was going afk, but it fits really well with a mafia plan of a no-lynch.
However he later seemed unaware of the scum benefit of a no-lynch.

I do find it hard to believe that boxer fred is mafia with the way he's been dropping dumb tells about scum mechanics though.

Either way trfel and clarity fit in both world #2 and #3 as mafia.
Clarity already has a train on her and the current votes line up with my #3 scum team.
Right now I'm convinced there is a mafia between trfel and clarity.

I'll have to review a couple more things before I decide.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
July 22 2015 07:53 GMT
#8499
Well, I'm not getting lynched. If you think that rsoultin is town, you should vote for Clarity_nl so that if you are right and Clarity_nl is mafia, scum can't force a no lynch with a last second vote change.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 22 2015 08:00 GMT
#8500
I'm more inclined to believe that trfel is the scum on this team due to the fact he's the only one to present the logic that a no-lynch is just fine for mafia.

How is this scummy?
lol.
No gg, No skill.
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