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On July 22 2015 03:06 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 02:49 rsoultin wrote:On July 22 2015 01:34 Clarity_nl wrote:
scumteam is gonna end up wos/trfel/rsoultin or something and I guess that's fine. I was kinda looking forward to do some analysis tonight but I just got reminded that I'm never gonna change bf's mind so there's no point. I don't understand this mentality? If you think i'm scum and bf is voting for me as it is why would you just give up here? Because bf is gonna lynch me eventually so either he dies and flips red or town loses. I don't see the point in prolonging it.
Thus far, all I wanna do is lynch freakin' rsoultin. I didn't switch for you once. Hell you're my top2 scum read, yes, but there's still a way to disprove that read. However playing totally weird after you tried to make an impression of "I'm playing reasonably" does do anything, neither for town in general nor for yourself. Not at all. I insist: vote rsoultin.
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I even would like to lynch HtS over you if we lynch a scum member today because I really don't wanna be with her in LYLO.
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I said fuck you once and it was under an entirely different context, if you wanna hold that against me for your entire life that's your prerogative. For what it's worth I should not have said that.
You are simply not willing to consider anything that contradicts what you've said to that point, it's been the only consistent thing about you this game. I'm not willing to vote rsoultin, hope she's scum, and push her as hard as I can just so you can lynch me the day after or the day after that. We can't have any mislynches regardless of us lynching scum.
So these are my options:
- Convince you you're wrong
- Lynch you and hope you're scum
Seeing as only of these is reasonable, there is no choice. Like I said I'm not really bothered at this point. The afk townies have been very demoralizing. I wish I had the energy to fight tooth and nail for the next 24h but I do not.
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Also scum have played well, whoever they are.
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On July 22 2015 03:47 boxerfred wrote:
I even would like to lynch HtS over you if we lynch a scum member today because I really don't wanna be with her in LYLO.
Like, scum was actually really stupid to kill Breshke. There was no way he'd be confirmed and he'd be a great town to have in LYLO. Or did I miss something that 100% confirmed his claim? I don't think so.
3) WaveofShadow (filter)
4) Clarity_nl (filter)
5) ruXxar (filter)
10) boxerfred (filter)
12) Trfel (filter)
19) Oatsmaster (filter)
21) rsoultin (filter)
22) Half The Sky (filter)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter)
This is my world. Next night, two variables will be removed if we don't lynch a KP carrier today.
I don't want to be in LYLO with the following people:
3) WaveofShadow (filter)
22) Half The Sky (filter)
25) XEliteBlueHunter69X (filter)
Because while I think HtS is scum, I still see a world where she is not. However this is like a 10% chance .
Concerning WoS, he pretty much disappeared. Frustrated town or yolo scum, dunno. EBH - no clue. He made a very bluehunty post and I got told my first newbie game that this is a huge scum indicator. Cannot tell. I feel like a HtS town flip would make EBH being scum more likely, call it an obscure feeling if you will.
I'm giving Oats a town lean. Not really sure, would rethink my lean on him if HtS does not flip scum. However, my world completely depends on HtS flipping. I don't like that.
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breshke's claim was totally town, how you and oats didn't see that I'll never understand
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The fact that you think the three most active players are all scum together speaks volumes.
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80% sure of this, 90% sure of this. Blah blah
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On July 22 2015 03:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
I said fuck you once and it was under an entirely different context, if you wanna hold that against me for your entire life that's your prerogative. For what it's worth I should not have said that.
You are simply not willing to consider anything that contradicts what you've said to that point, it's been the only consistent thing about you this game. I'm not willing to vote rsoultin, hope she's scum, and push her as hard as I can just so you can lynch me the day after or the day after that. We can't have any mislynches regardless of us lynching scum.
So these are my options:
- Convince you you're wrong
- Lynch you and hope you're scum
Seeing as only of these is reasonable, there is no choice. Like I said I'm not really bothered at this point. The afk townies have been very demoralizing. I wish I had the energy to fight tooth and nail for the next 24h but I do not.
No - you said "fuck you" in exactly the same context you're now saying I'm illogical - because of my argumentation and our dialogue when I changed on HF.
Regarding the second bolded: I don't understand that. If we lynch rsoul and she flips town, why would people follow me in lynching you? So that leaves me that you don't wanna lynch her because of a "hope". Well if so, why are you willing to lynch me although you lean me town then? You said you'd lynch me because of a "hope", you even voted me! Why not rsoultin? I don't even want you to push her (go ahead if you want to), I actually want you to sheep me.
Regarding mislynches: I think we have one mislynch left, don't we?
8 Players alive.
1 ML.
7 Players alive.
2 kills at night.
5 players alive.
1 Scum lynch
4 players alive
1 kill at night
3 Players alive.
LYLO.
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If you lynch rsoul and she flips town we lose you dingus
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6 town 3 scum, mislynch = 5 town 3 scum, 2 kp = ?????
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On July 22 2015 03:54 Clarity_nl wrote:
The fact that you think the three most active players are all scum together speaks volumes.
HtS' filter is shorter than Oats filter and I don't think Oats spammed a lot. Also if you're arguing with filters, why exactly did you lynch HF who had the biggest and most active filter of all?
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On July 22 2015 03:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
6 town 3 scum, mislynch = 5 town 3 scum, 2 kp = ?????
Ah right, all scum can carry KP.
That makes it even more important to kill rsoul tonight. Why aren't you simply following that?
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On July 22 2015 03:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
If you lynch rsoul and she flips town we lose you dingus
Stop ad hom. So would we do if we lynch anyone and he'd flip town. However I feel like it's really likely she'll flip scum. She was under pressure for reasons quite some days, she was the one pushing the lynch on Holyflare, thus killing a player who'd have been really dangerous for scum, she's experienced enough to know what a danger HF could've been, and ever since HF is dead, she's not nearly putting in as much effort although it's now even more important to kill scum! What's your problem with killing her?!
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On July 22 2015 04:01 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 03:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
6 town 3 scum, mislynch = 5 town 3 scum, 2 kp = ????? Ah right, all scum can carry KP. That makes it even more important to kill rsoul tonight. Why aren't you simply following that?
OK apparently this is too hard for you to wrap your head around, so I'll explain it one more time.
I don't think you're capable of changing your mind on me. I literally think you are incapable of that. That doesn't mean you're a bad person, or that you're dumb, but what it does mean is that town loses unless you are scum. I'd rather lose today than 120 hours from now.
If we lynch rsoultin and she flips red we're still gonna be at mylo. If we then lynch trfel and he flips red we're still at mylo, and then you're still going to lynch me.
I don't actually think you're scum, you literally just had another dumbtell regarding how scum kp works, but it doesn't matter.
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rsoultin was not pushing the HF lynch, if that's how you remember it going down I don't know what to think. She literally waffled on HF for the first 36 hours.
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On July 22 2015 04:05 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2015 04:01 boxerfred wrote:On July 22 2015 03:59 Clarity_nl wrote:
6 town 3 scum, mislynch = 5 town 3 scum, 2 kp = ????? Ah right, all scum can carry KP. That makes it even more important to kill rsoul tonight. Why aren't you simply following that? OK apparently this is too hard for you to wrap your head around, so I'll explain it one more time. I don't think you're capable of changing your mind on me. I literally think you are incapable of that. That doesn't mean you're a bad person, or that you're dumb, but what it does mean is that town loses unless you are scum. I'd rather lose today than 120 hours from now. If we lynch rsoultin and she flips red we're still gonna be at mylo. If we then lynch trfel and he flips red we're still at mylo, and then you're still going to lynch me. I don't actually think you're scum, you literally just had another dumbtell regarding how scum kp works, but it doesn't matter.
So you are saying the game is lost. If you end up with me in LYLO, you say I vote you, losing the game for town.
If we lynch town today, it's lost. So all to hope for is that scum kills you or me, right?
Your best shot of having a chance to win is then lynching rsoul and hope for a scum flip. And then hope for me changing my mind. Can you do this? Because if not, you'll probably be lynched today and if you flip town, we're losing.
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Boxerfred are you reading the bloody thread?
Breshke flipped on the day post. And he claimed and claim conditions whilst unusual made sense given his standing in the game (not widely townread, not as influential and not as great a threat as town).
You are considering associations between myself and others. But they make zero sense because of what I did at EoD.
What other than this fear read makes me Mafia?
What prior to EoD day 5 made me Mafia?
How are Ras and I on the same team when I failed to hammer EBH?
Why is EBH Mafia besides his first post?
You have so many questions to answer its not funny.
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Yeah okay, was holding out hope that there was a chance you're scum but I don't see a reason for you to try and be townread by giving out another false dumbtell so I buy it.
##Vote rsoultin
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Seriously I don't see town Clarity NOT voting rsoultin if he knows for sure that town loses with a ML. It's him or rsoultin. There's no other train to vote on. If clarity is really really town, he'd lynch rsoultin, having to gamble. There's no way for new evidence to come up. No no no way. So in Clarity's situation as a townie, he'd know that he's town, thus his first priority should be (as it is #1 priority for any of us right now) to not get mislynched.
That is a) a dumb town play or b) a freaking huge scum indicator.
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