TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden - Page 386

On July 07 2015 23:46 Damdred wrote:
Good morning guys, i've caught up to the thread and would like to push you all to kill clarity today.

I'm not going to bother posting tons of quotes so you should fact check yourself after you get done reading.

The first thing of note to look at when it comes to clarity is his weird way of reading HF at the start of the game. Something that is really Non alignment indicative gets him to totally town read HF and say that in no way would he lynch HF today and he would totally fight against his lynch today. To me this is extremely odd, openings are usually not really that important and when informed that HF is the best (arguably) scum player on this site, the stance never changed and no fear is shown at all towards HF.

The next thing that really bugs me about Clarity is lack of follow up and ignoring of questions. I think that is extremely scummy behavior, if you look in his filter you will see that multiple times I asked him questions about the town read he gave HF, any more reads and his reasoning behind voteing wave and open ended questions. He ignores them until I continue to push them down his throat. He has no real follow up which I think is damning.

The weird vote and unvote has been talked about a bit by Marv as being really strange. Wave really really hasn't done jack all this game so not sure why he would unvote as it feels sorta like hes just going with thread sentiment to an extent and going where its safe. HF pushes wave goes to wave, thread goes against ritoky jumps to ritoky. Now is trying to get marv to tell him where to go. And has no real reads at this point.

TLDR
Has no fear of people he says are town, ie HF after one post
Lacks follow through on some posts/questions
Lacks scum reads
Follows thread sentiment and jumps to another when its available instead of pushing what he thinks.

This guy is scum vot ehim.

On July 18 2015 03:55 ruXxar wrote:


That is true, however after reading damdred's filter, he didn't really pursue any of his scum-reads at all.
From the analysis I did earlier I felt like clarity was damdreds second strongest scum-read throughout the whole game.

So no, he didn't push him very hard in a general sense, but did so in a relative sense compare to the other pushes he's done this game.

And you can't really say that he dropped the scum-read because the last list post he made was just wifom after he already got caught.

On July 18 2015 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Like, you literally just defended a flipped mafia post death in your argumentation.

On July 18 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote:
did everyone see va's read changes on hf? am i the only one who finds that hella weird? the guy was barely playing and he couldn't even remember his top townread? lol ><

On July 18 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote:
did everyone see va's read changes on hf? am i the only one who finds that hella weird? the guy was barely playing and he couldn't even remember his top townread? lol ><

On July 18 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote:
did everyone see va's read changes on hf? am i the only one who finds that hella weird? the guy was barely playing and he couldn't even remember his top townread? lol ><

On July 18 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote:
did everyone see va's read changes on hf? am i the only one who finds that hella weird? the guy was barely playing and he couldn't even remember his top townread? lol ><

On July 18 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote:
did everyone see va's read changes on hf? am i the only one who finds that hella weird? the guy was barely playing and he couldn't even remember his top townread? lol ><

On July 18 2015 03:32 rsoultin wrote:










^^^^^

va's convenient read-change on hf...you forgot? i'll grant that it's possible, but if it is SO GOOD that you're going to hard townread hf over all your reservations precisely when hf is up for lynch, i have a very hard time understanding how you forgot it in the first place

not to mention that read is pretty bogus anyway. like lol >< there is really only one good town reason to make the "joke" first post, and that is essentially if you didn't read the OP at all, and frankly even so hf knows that most hosts will post a copy of the vt pm and other pms in the scum qts of games like this...i think he was even one of the people who informed me of that last time in assassination?

you think it's natural for vt to seriously claim vt first post? granted, i'm no psyche dude or whatever, but i can tell you for a fact that i am ten times more likely to do it as scum than as town, because in the first case it buys town cred without risking anything, and in the second case it just helps scum poe blues

if you're town and this is how you really think and your jimmies are just rustled that i don't think your read is worth anything because i don't expect the majority of people in this game to be too stupid to read an op and go 'oh look, vt is called investigator, i can make a post alluding to that for free town cred!', tough

i'd ask you how you forgot your most confident townread based on that flimsy post for several cycles, but frankly there's no response to it

On July 18 2015 04:05 ruXxar wrote:
zzz blow it out of proportion will you.

I'm saying that damdred had clarity as his second strongest scum-read the whole game, and he didn't push hard on any of his scum reads in a general sense.

On July 18 2015 04:10 Vivax wrote:


So what's the point of pointing out that he did push clarity if to you it should be meaningless?

On July 18 2015 04:11 Vivax wrote:
I don't even care what you say past this point tbh, you're mafia for that bs.

On July 18 2015 04:13 Vivax wrote:
Also nice to see how rso was your scumread all along and now you're both holding hands and singing kumbaya.

On July 18 2015 04:13 rsoultin wrote:
-_-

meh, i'll just go swim. being ignored puts me in a bad mood

let me break it down for the particularly slow here today

- va has hf as top townread for joke!post
- va makes a point of saying hey! look! i thought that, too! <- hint, hint: i'm vt too! (yes i'm aware this bugged me about scott, too, and he flipped town, but i really, really don't see why people say this shit, especially mr. "bluehunter", unless they're trying to use it to get townread in a very anti-town way)
- va forgets he even was townreading hf??? instead scumreads/encourages to shoot
- va suddenly "isn't sure" about hf when hf is getting lynched
- va goes "oh wait, remember that first post that i had him as top town for? yeah, he's totes town herpderp"

On July 18 2015 04:13 Vivax wrote:
Also nice to see how rso was your scumread all along and now you're both holding hands and singing kumbaya.

On July 18 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote:


why won't anyone talk about va?! like seriously, if what i'm saying is that stupid, tell me why

On July 18 2015 04:17 rsoultin wrote:


why won't anyone talk about va?! like seriously, if what i'm saying is that stupid, tell me why